Guest urdone311 Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 Hey everyone, Has anyone yet heard any information on using your SPV as a universal remote control for your home devices? it would work well since the IR is on the front of the phone...... (unlike the Tohisba E740 with it on the side.. that sucked) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carnivor Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 i dont think the infra-red is powerful enough, tv remote uses a wide beam so you can simply point at the tv to operate it spv and other pda type products use a very narrow beam meaning its faster and you would need sniper vision to aim it accuratly enough, and I think you only have a 1/2 meter distance, making it easier to just raise your arm and press the button actually on the tv. as I say, i dont really know but i picked this up from somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest urdone311 Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 Makes sense....I guess we'll have to wait for Bluetooth enabled DVD players/TV's....(and bluetooth on our phones) that would be sweet., wouldnt even have to aim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 The range is sometimes much less (depends on device), but the beam is not inherently narrower, and speed (frequency of the data modulation of the light's intensity) is not affected by beam width... at least not at the phreaks we're talking about. :) These IrDa are actually quite standardized and mass-produced. Factoid : Take a picture with a digital camera of the phone in a room with no light with the IrDa emitting and the screen covered... Usually you will be able to see the IrDa led as a bright dot because the camera is sensitive to infrared unlike your eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PsychoDave Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 Used to test remote controls this way but using a video camera, doesn't need to be dark to work. Not really relevant but i'm not thinkin too straight at the mo :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 I tried that with my Nikon Coolpix, and the infrared filter must be rather good, cuz it needed a dark room. Not total black, admittedly. To sorta bring this back online and spur a move (ooh, ooh, dirty word) to the hardware section, has anyone tried this with the SPV's camera? You'd need mirrors, or two SPVs, I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 It'll give me something to do tomorrow :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 Bad news, guys... Here is a comparison shot of the SPV beam a contact and a DVD player RC sending out a "stop" command. Note the SPV is so much less powerful it doesn't show, while the RC is nice and bright? I'll try to get something from the phone in total darkness with an 8 second shot, but I'm not too optimistic. My camera isn't very good at picking up IR.SPV Irda.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HelloDave Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 has anyone tried this with the SPV's camera? Pointless fact but yes, the SPV's camera does pick up infra red, and quite well too (so a crap IR filter then!). It was quite handy when I wanted to test some IR emitter/reciever sensors the other day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 My mates ipaq and my tv button box just taken with the SPV camera. I spent the first 20 mins trying to set up 2 mirrors to get the SPV IR port in with no luck :/ Either it was too low intensity or i didnt have the right angle. nm... edit: added some one's of the SPV taken with my cheap crappy digicams. First one looks promising-ish.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest urdone311 Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 and the verdict is......... no chance for a remote control device unless held about 3 inches away? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maverick Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 But Has any one even tried getting it to work at all ?? I would, but I know very little abt IR devices and a little less about CE programming... Hmmm... To me.. its 'do-able' until proven otherwise !! :twisted: :shock: :idea: :!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 Can't seem to get a decent picture of the SPV's IrDa emitting. I will try again while it's actually communicatng with the PC, to remove a nagging doubt that it *isn't* emitting at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carnivor Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 my sony video camera picked up no probs, spv was set to beam a contact and because it was pulsing this was my 4th attempt to actually get the beam showing But dont let the brightness fool you. This could well be because of the pulsing if the pic was taken off time it will appear dimmer, and also due to the tinted cover on the SPV.DSC00004.JPGDSC00006.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 Well, that certainly looks like and bright. Must have caught it between pulses last night... If you have a remote control lying around, care to do a comparison shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maverick Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 There is some open source resource for IRDA comm from a Pocket PC.. The Code Project- Infrared Comm Sadly, No info about how to use the IRDA port to beam 'remote control' signals ... :?: :!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 From the pictures i took the IrDa on the SPV didnt look much brighter than the ipaq's, which my mate can't get to work as a remote unless he's within a fw meters of the telly. Still worth a shot imho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 Well, looks like power of the beam shouldn't be too much of a problem! Thanks, Carnivor! Always knew we needed guys like you in the food chain. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jester666 Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 Hello, does anyone test the program on "The Code Project- Infrared Comm" ? Or anyone try to use source code ? At this time SPV can send/receive file with 'smartexplorer', it is impossible to make an adaptation for send/receive IR sequence like a file emulation or something like this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carnivor Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 there is this aswell http://www.pocketpccity.com/software/pocke...e-pocketpc.html my be able to be ported, but from the on-site reviews its not very friendly with tv's etc. also do a search for remoconcon and there are other apps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vector Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 It would be soooooo cool if i could use my SPV as a remote :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richie M Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 This would be the best app ever; PLEASE someone :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevesco Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 i think carnivor's big right toe nail needs a bit of a clippin' he he he :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest urdone311 Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 Hmmm, I wonder if it would be at all possible to "upgrade" our IR ports to a stronger beam.....(u know, replace a few guts). Just think if someone actually developed a GOOD program to do this.....it would sell like a mofo. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carnivor Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 i think carnivor's big right toe nail needs a bit of a clippin' he he he :wink: Dam j00. ive done it already, infact i've pruned all my toe nails,. even tho i did have to use wire clippers for those stubborn big toe nails ( and that aint no lie) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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