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a lead on how to unlock SPV
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Posted 09 December 2002 - 07:44 PM
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#22
Posted 09 December 2002 - 08:01 PM
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No, this will have only unlocked the SIMLock on your phone. There isn't any code Orange Support can give you that will remove/modify the signing requirements in the OS.
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 01:42 PM
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I have tried to install PHM Registry Editor on my unlocked phone and it is not working.
So i guess certification is still necessary.
Cizake
So i guess certification is still necessary.
Cizake
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 03:41 PM
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If you modify the Flash and write it back to the phone with the wrong CRC, does it kill the phone?
If it does, can the phone be recovered by changing the code back and doing it again or is it back to Orange?
Cheers
Steddy
If you modify the Flash and write it back to the phone with the wrong CRC, does it kill the phone?
If it does, can the phone be recovered by changing the code back and doing it again or is it back to Orange?
Cheers
Steddy
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 04:27 PM
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Am I the only one that has three menu screens on my phone rather than two?
The middle one has the following options:
0. SAVE OEM
1. LOAD OEM
2. SAVE SFON
3. LOAD SFON
4. SAVE LANG
5. LOAD LANG
6. SAVE OPER
7. LOAD OPER
Its possible one of these will save out the OEM too. SFON is short for SmartFon.
If you boot the phone with the SAVE ALL backup on it, then press the power button when it asks if you want to download it, you can then go to page two and save all this information to the memory card. If you press a different key than ACTION at the time you are prompted to format the card, it adds these into the backup set.
Viewing the memory card in WinHex shows a directory listing at Sector 1 (offset 0x200) with these filenames present. It also contains the lengths and offsets into the data.
The middle one has the following options:
0. SAVE OEM
1. LOAD OEM
2. SAVE SFON
3. LOAD SFON
4. SAVE LANG
5. LOAD LANG
6. SAVE OPER
7. LOAD OPER
Its possible one of these will save out the OEM too. SFON is short for SmartFon.
If you boot the phone with the SAVE ALL backup on it, then press the power button when it asks if you want to download it, you can then go to page two and save all this information to the memory card. If you press a different key than ACTION at the time you are prompted to format the card, it adds these into the backup set.
Viewing the memory card in WinHex shows a directory listing at Sector 1 (offset 0x200) with these filenames present. It also contains the lengths and offsets into the data.
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 04:33 PM
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Well the macromedia flash player refuses to install due to this..?
not entirely sure, but try it?
Will
not entirely sure, but try it?
Will
Hmmm, is there a smartphone version of Macromedia Flash? There is a PocketPC one that I'm aware of, but you cannot run PocketPC sw in SmartPhone 2002.
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 04:54 PM
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so if crc rong..not writing in the phone 
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 04:55 PM
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i made insted a flasher over the serial port with all crc calculation 
Is just metter of time now
I have full control over the phone now
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Is just metter of time now
I have full control over the phone now
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 05:09 PM
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Are you saying it just refuses to Flash if the CRC is wrong, so no harm can be done? Yes/No
How have you connected over serial, it only comes with a USB cable?
Are you making all this up?
How have you connected over serial, it only comes with a USB cable?
Are you making all this up?
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 08:06 PM
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Fine then study urself the phone if u don't bealive me
I'll not longer make my discovers public anymore.
When an unlocker will be ready, you'll have to contact the oficial dealers of the product.
That's all fox.
From now on i'm back in shadow :evil:
See ya
I'll not longer make my discovers public anymore.
When an unlocker will be ready, you'll have to contact the oficial dealers of the product.
That's all fox.
From now on i'm back in shadow :evil:
See ya
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 08:30 PM
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Yes, there are too many idiots on this board, but the rest of us have learn't to ignore these people that just want to nit pick on those that wish to express their point of view.
Please keep up the good work on unlocking the SPV.
Yes, there are too many idiots on this board, but the rest of us have learn't to ignore these people that just want to nit pick on those that wish to express their point of view.
Please keep up the good work on unlocking the SPV.
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 08:44 PM
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Keep up the good work FLORIN!!
You know there are many good people out there appreciating your effort.! Ignore the rest...
We all (i think) can't wait for the miracle!!
You know there are many good people out there appreciating your effort.! Ignore the rest...
We all (i think) can't wait for the miracle!!
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 10:11 PM
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I'm backing you mate, although looking at the prices all the other networks charge for GPRS, my phone will be staying with orange until april...
Cheers oh and by the way you said you managed to dump all the files from the phone, have you looked at them at all.. (still searching for icons!)
Will
Cheers oh and by the way you said you managed to dump all the files from the phone, have you looked at them at all.. (still searching for icons!)
Will
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 10:26 PM
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Dont' be fooled guys by florins response.
I've done everything florin has and more with this device. If he had anything he would give a straight answer rather than this bullshit threatening language. I even have the QFS file system part worked out that is used on the card and have found the SHA hash functions.
He's not told us anything that wasn't on public boards weeks ago. If he had anything to say, then he would answer my simple questions (for example about the serial link).
Don't let a desire for something cloud your judgement.
Steddy
I've done everything florin has and more with this device. If he had anything he would give a straight answer rather than this bullshit threatening language. I even have the QFS file system part worked out that is used on the card and have found the SHA hash functions.
He's not told us anything that wasn't on public boards weeks ago. If he had anything to say, then he would answer my simple questions (for example about the serial link).
Don't let a desire for something cloud your judgement.
Steddy
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 11:12 PM
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steddy we all have 3 screens...
Florin keep up the good work.
Cizake
Florin keep up the good work.
Cizake
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Posted 13 December 2002 - 05:15 PM
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Fine then study urself the phone if u don't bealive me
I'll not longer make my discovers public anymore.
When an unlocker will be ready, you'll have to contact the oficial dealers of the product.
That's all fox.
From now on i'm back in shadow :evil:
See ya
I'll not longer make my discovers public anymore.
When an unlocker will be ready, you'll have to contact the oficial dealers of the product.
That's all fox.
From now on i'm back in shadow :evil:
See ya
My friend please tell us if you have any news about the unlocking!
Thank you in advance :oops:
#37
Posted 13 December 2002 - 05:56 PM
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The operating system, the device generally works with files and folder as we're all familer.
But the operating system is not what will need attention to unlock any handset. We're talking about the EEPROM here. This is what will be flashed in any unlock attempt just like any handset.
Why? Because it is on the EEPROM the IMEI and the lock variable will be read from. You dont really think that modifying the IPSM folder is going to remove the simlock do we?
The SPV could in theory be used for emergency call even without the IPSM folder, but you would not be able to do this without an IMEI sent to the network so it can identify the originator of the call.
It's all theory until somebody make it happen. And stop slating each other for god's sake.
The operating system, the device generally works with files and folder as we're all familer.
But the operating system is not what will need attention to unlock any handset. We're talking about the EEPROM here. This is what will be flashed in any unlock attempt just like any handset.
Why? Because it is on the EEPROM the IMEI and the lock variable will be read from. You dont really think that modifying the IPSM folder is going to remove the simlock do we?
The SPV could in theory be used for emergency call even without the IPSM folder, but you would not be able to do this without an IMEI sent to the network so it can identify the originator of the call.
It's all theory until somebody make it happen. And stop slating each other for god's sake.
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Posted 13 December 2002 - 07:21 PM
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When I'm referring to the QFS file system I am reffering the the file system used on the ROM chip, not the media card or RAM.
When you dump the entire contents of the ROM to an SD card you get a special undocumented file system called QFS (not the Sun one) on the media card. This isn't readable by the phone when its booted normally (it justs tell you the card isn't formated).
Steddy
When I'm referring to the QFS file system I am reffering the the file system used on the ROM chip, not the media card or RAM.
When you dump the entire contents of the ROM to an SD card you get a special undocumented file system called QFS (not the Sun one) on the media card. This isn't readable by the phone when its booted normally (it justs tell you the card isn't formated).
Steddy
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Posted 13 December 2002 - 08:36 PM
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true true
But surely, the core that contains the handset info, to be altered we'd need to do a flash?
Much as I'd like to, I can't see the unlock solution coming from backing up, tweaking, then the restore.
Don't get me wrong. I would never claim that what I'm suggesting is gospel, just what follows the fashions in terms manufacture.
Under the battery, there is a little rubber section slightly to the side. Now doesn't that look like another port? Coincedently, in a very simlilar place to where a 3*** series Nokia has a flash port?
Just thinkng out loud here...
But surely, the core that contains the handset info, to be altered we'd need to do a flash?
Much as I'd like to, I can't see the unlock solution coming from backing up, tweaking, then the restore.
Don't get me wrong. I would never claim that what I'm suggesting is gospel, just what follows the fashions in terms manufacture.
Under the battery, there is a little rubber section slightly to the side. Now doesn't that look like another port? Coincedently, in a very simlilar place to where a 3*** series Nokia has a flash port?
Just thinkng out loud here...
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Posted 13 December 2002 - 11:08 PM
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When you backup the device it backup the entire phone image and all other data to the card.
If you alter it then boot the phone with the card, it gives you the option to overwrite the phones Flash memory with the image on the card.
This will be exactly the way HTC and Orange program these phones (apart from the initial factory flash).
Once we crack the CRC and Hash function protecting changing the ROM code, then anything will be possible.
Steddy
If you alter it then boot the phone with the card, it gives you the option to overwrite the phones Flash memory with the image on the card.
This will be exactly the way HTC and Orange program these phones (apart from the initial factory flash).
Once we crack the CRC and Hash function protecting changing the ROM code, then anything will be possible.
Steddy
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