Guest grifter Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Hey guys, i you have any issues and/or problems/question regarding SMART/ADDICT MOBILE service, post them here. Maybe we can share common problems and solutions. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grifter Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 I'll start off. My question is -- When using an ADDICT sim on an SE T68i, you have the option under connectivity, data comm, sms access -- gsm or gprs. If I set the SMS access to GPRS, will I be charged per KB or will I still be charged 1 peso per SMS sent? I already called up SMART customer service. They said they don't know! nge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BrAGoL Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 SMART nga talaga ang SMART :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elr Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 The difference between sending SMS via GSM or GPRS is in how the data was sent. Messages are sent faster thru gprs. SMART can determine if you send an sms over gprs, and charge you accordingly, but it may be possible that the small amount of SMS data will also register on the GPRS APN and another charge might be applied for the connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grifter Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 So you're saying that SMART can filter GPRS traffic and determine if SMS was sent via GPRS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest virgil Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Posted from my SmartPhone! im a self confsed adik! SMS at least. wat i know u wud b charged 4 d GPRS connection @0.25 /kb . SMS should be transmtd via GSM network @ 1 peso/160 character msg sent. its up 2 u... what u think is cheaper? i recomend GSM.Posted from my SmartPhone! im a self confsed adik! SMS at least. wat i know u wud b charged 4 d GPRS connection @0.25 /kb . SMS should be transmtd via GSM network @ 1 peso/160 character msg sent. its up 2 u... what u think is cheaper? i recomend GSM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest virgil Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Posted from my SmartPhone! dis is my concern.is addict mobile mail working? cant figure out d website,anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grifter Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 if you compute it, 1 sms=160 chars=160 bytes so 1024 bytes / 160 ~ 7 --> so for 1KB, you can send approx 7 text msgs at .25 centavos. 7x4=28 text msgs sent=4KB=1 peso when using GPRS vs 1 peso per text msg when using GSM gets? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elr Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 u hav 2 remembr dat sendng sms thru gprs wil stil pas d smsc w/c wil charge u 1 pesos on top of gprs rate. Posted from my SmartPhone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest virgil Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Posted from my SmartPhone! realy? wats smsc anyway? hehehe...just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elr Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 SMSCenter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grifter Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 correct me if i'm wrong, but the smsc is in mobile phone format (+6391800010 or something). therefore accessing the smsc will use GSM. if you send via gprs, will it still connect to the smsc? I thought if you use GPRS, you're dealing with IP addresses and not telephone numbers. now i'm confused. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dinoalbert Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 What do you mean "sending sms vias gprs"? Sending the message in MMS form or by email? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grifter Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 I'm not talking about SAPs here. hehehe... on SE phones, T6xx series, you have the option to send SMS via GSM or via GPRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rodnav Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 I'm not talking about SAPs here. hehehe... on SE phones, T6xx series, you have the option to send SMS via GSM or via GPRS. i used to be able to do that (send sms via gprs) with my ericsson t38m over globe but globe recently disallowed it. even then i used to be charge the sms rate for sending through gprs but the message would get through much faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grifter Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 yup. i used to do that also when i was still with globe. my purpose is just to clarify the cost of sending 1 sms mesg via GPRS. if it will be charged the GPRS way, then it's good since it's gonna be cheaper. hehe... But if it will still be charged 1 peso per sms mesg, ok lang since sending via GPRS is much faster expecially really long mesgs. What I want to avoid is being charged 1 peso per sent mesg plus the GPRS data cost pa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elr Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 correct me if i'm wrong, but the smsc is in mobile phone format (+6391800010 or something). therefore accessing the smsc will use GSM. if you send via gprs, will it still connect to the smsc? I thought if you use GPRS, you're dealing with IP addresses and not telephone numbers. now i'm confused. :) SMS whether via GSM or GPRS passes thru SMSC. The only difference is the path used to transport the data to the message center. SMS thru GSM uses the Mobile Switching Center (MSC) while GPRS uses the Servicing GPRS Support Network (SGSN). So, SMS were billed as soon the SMSC received the message. The question now is whether the kilobyte used will also be billed based on GPRS usage? Well, it depends on the carrier. In case of AT&T wireless (according to their customer support), kilobyte used for SMS via GPRS is not included on SGSN usage. Therefore, sending sms thru gsm or gprs were billed at the same rate. I'm not sure if this is also true on smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grifter Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 ok. thanks for the clearup. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crypto Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 1. Does the 85 free minutes for plan 800 applicable to any calls (ie: NDD, IDD, Local) ? How is my free minutes is deducted if I use it to call to any NDD, IDD numbers? Does it include also for internet connection (WAP, GPRS) ? 2. For the messaging, how does the 450 free credits deducted if I use it for mms messaging? Why does the GPRS (.25/kb) is under the messaging category instead of calls? Accessing GPRS is dialing a number, why is it that it is categorized as messaging? What is MVAS? SMS IOD? MMS IOD? Java Frontpage? 3. How should I know if my free minutes and free credits exceeded? How would I know my charges for the current month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grifter Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 1. Does the 85 free minutes for plan 800 applicable to any calls (ie: NDD, IDD, Local) ? How is my free minutes is deducted if I use it to call to any NDD, IDD numbers? Does it include also for internet connection (WAP, GPRS) ? free mins are only applicable to local calls to any cell provider and landline. NDD and IDD are not deductable from the free mins. For CSD connection it uses the free minutes as long as the dialup number you're calling is not NDD or IDD. 2. For the messaging, how does the 450 free credits deducted if I use it for mms messaging? Why does the GPRS (.25/kb) is under the messaging category instead of calls? Accessing GPRS is dialing a number, why is it that it is categorized as messaging? What is MVAS? SMS IOD? MMS IOD? Java Frontpage? the free credits apply for GPRS access, MMS, SMS, content downloads (from SMART wap portal). Using GPRS doesn't dial a number. As for the other acronynms, I suggest you dial *888 on your cellfone and ask the CSR to explain. :) 3. How should I know if my free minutes and free credits exceeded? How would I know my charges for the current month? you can call *888 and follow the voice menu to check your balance. SMART will send you a text if you have exceeded 50% of your credit limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crypto Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 thanks grifter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest virgil Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 What is MVAS? SMS IOD? MMS IOD? Java Frontpage? uote] MVAS - Mobile Value Added Service SMS IOD - Short Messaging Service Information On Demand MMS IOD - Multimedia Messaging Service Information On Demand Java Frontpage -- JAVA application that monitors (converts number data ) WAP/GPRS downloading transaction in a Web/wap page visited. It is the Java Applet used in the web/wap page, some converted HTML/XML/WML files displayed to your phone . hope this helps. CIAO Baby!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grifter Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 guys, I can't browse any sites using SMART GPRS today. :) anybody else experiencing this problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elr Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 my smart gprs works fine. Posted from my SmartPhone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grifter Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 darn! now what? i've already called up *888 and they couldn't help me. sheesh! pwede ko ba i-cancel yng subscription ko with them? Puro problema even from the start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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