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Just got a c550, put tcpmp on it, and i would like to know what codecs u use (xvid, mpeg4, divx etc) and what ones give smooth playback on c550.

Also, what framerate gives good playback, and what resolution. (does 320x240, 24fps work????)

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Just got a c550, put tcpmp on it, and i would like to know what codecs u use (xvid, mpeg4, divx etc) and what ones give smooth playback on c550.

Also, what framerate gives good playback, and what resolution. (does 320x240, 24fps work????)

bigpete

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Take Pocket divX encoder to resize movies .I use it with avi (xvid) and mp3 on 128 or 160kbps .

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Take Pocket divX encoder to resize movies .I use it with avi (xvid) and mp3 on 128 or 160kbps .

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you mean resize to 320x240, and keep framerate at over 20? Does that run smoothly??

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you mean resize to 320x240, and keep framerate at over 20? Does that run smoothly??

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you'll find that different types of movie look better at different settings. There probably isnt a definitive setting that will please every one . Just get a 5 min chunk of movie and mess around with different settings yourself. it really is the best way to see what the phone can do...

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you'll find that different types of movie look better at different settings.  There probably isnt a definitive setting that will please every one .  Just get a 5 min chunk of movie and mess around with different settings yourself.  it really is the best way to see what the phone can do...

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U got that right .It depends on movie ,to be more precise codec used for it .

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so it is possible to get movies running fullscreen (or widescreen) at high framerates?

And is xvid the best codec to go for?

THanks again

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so it is possible to get movies running fullscreen (or widescreen) at high framerates?

And is xvid the best codec to go for?

THanks again

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Normally ,yes it is .Not necesarly but it is a good option .

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Normally ,yes it is .Not necesarly but it is a good option .

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Thanks, i think ill go ahead with xvid - see what 20fps gives me, at full resolution.

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I use PocketDivX too. I choose the "Pocket PC" settings from the start-up GUI giving an output resolution of no more than 320x240 which seems to do the job at a fantastic rate. I usually increase the "audio" slider to 5 to provide decent stereo, leaving the "video" slider at 12 which uses the original source frame-rate.

Within the "Change" button on left hand side there is an option to maintain aspect ratio to keep widescreen as widescreen. This usually outputs an image size of 320x176.

This squeezes a 700Mb DivX or Xvid down to around 230Mb. There's also the option to output as an Ogg Video with Ogg audio too within the "Advanced" settings menu, but I haven't tried that (yet), prefering to leave it as an avi with mp3.

Good luck and may you have much fun fiddling about with it. ;)

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I use PocketDivX too. I choose the "Pocket PC" settings from the start-up GUI giving an output resolution of no more than 320x240 which seems to do the job at a fantastic rate. I usually increase the "audio" slider to 5 to provide decent stereo, leaving the "video" slider at 12 which uses the original source frame-rate.

Within the "Change" button on left hand side there is an option to maintain aspect ratio to keep widescreen as widescreen. This usually outputs an image size of 320x176.

This squeezes a 700Mb DivX or Xvid down to around 230Mb. There's also the option to output as an Ogg Video with Ogg audio too within the "Advanced" settings menu, but I haven't tried that (yet), prefering to leave it as an avi with mp3.

Good luck and may you have much fun fiddling about with it.  ;)

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Thanks - just what i needed to know. Time to fiddle!!!

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if using divX @ 25fps and with a bitrate of around 270kbps along with 128mp3 audio then the file size of the film is anywhere between 350 - 500mb depending on the length.

no i dont know how i wud ever get a film size in the 250mb's without using a mediocre bitrate of under 200 and using crappy quality audio.

divX calculator results:

a 2hr film of size 250mb - bitrate = 154kbps :shock:

a 2hr film of size 300mb - 212kbps :shock:

a 2hr film of size 450mb - 387kbps ;)

so really for dvd quality watching (which i have 2 have), the bitrate needs to be around 270 - 300 for good quality vs file size.

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MiG:uK

so does dvdx also convert to qvga parameters, i had a quick scan over the website and i didnt see anything there about it,

many thanx

sno

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have encoded some trailers, one for star wars episode 3, and a short clip of "The simpsons". Surprisingly, Satr Wars seems to be of a higher quality!! However, both play fullscreen at full framerate with quality over 350 kbps, so i think i have succeeded!!!

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MiG:uK

so does dvdx also convert to qvga parameters, i had a quick scan over the website and i didnt see anything there about it,

many thanx

sno

some ppl and video encoding, there is no such things as a qvga standard, its just the resolution.

encode with DivX using a resolution of 320 x 240 using any bitrate of mp3 audio and it will play back fine in tcmcp.

pocket divx encoder is just a gimmick.

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I find I get the best results using virtualdub and the XVID codec as you have much more control over the settings.

I often code the Audio at 56Kbps @ 24Hz and Video at 300Kbps (2 pass) and this plays fine on the C550 using TCPMP.

One tip is to code to 320x240 (+crop dark bands) and then pre-rotate to 240x320 as this will give smoother playback ;)

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Hey.. found a great encodrr suite thing - AutoGordian Knot. It produced a really good quality video, that only differed 0.2 mb from my target size! I now have the matrix on my c550 at near dvd quality (in my opinion) and am well chuffed!!!!!! Its amazin!! :D ;)

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Hey.. found a great encodrr suite thing - AutoGordian Knot. It produced a really good quality video, that only differed 0.2 mb from my target size! I now have the matrix on my c550 at near dvd quality (in my opinion) and am well chuffed!!!!!! Its amazin!! :D  ;)

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yeah mate the link i put in this thred earlier was to the users guide of agk, it does the job well, but also divxencoder has just been updated and seems to work as a direct encoder from dvd i have only tried 1 dvd so far the older version had problems with direct dvd conversions.

i will keep ya posted with the direct dvd conversion with divxencoder

later sno

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,Jan 14 2006, 10:51]@martin

I believe you can save processing settings in VirtualDub then load it once needed. Can you share the VCF file?

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Hi peter

I have attached the file XVID.vcf which is for VirtualDUB-MPEG2 1.6.11 ;)

Setup:

Load VirtualDUB-MPEG2 1.6.11 and AC-3 ACM codec

http://fcchandler.home.comcast.net/stable/

You may need to install the xvid codec.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Koepi_XviD.htm

To convert file using virtualdub... (I'm sure you already know this)

1 File-Open VOB file into Virtualdub and then File-Load processor settings XVID.vcf

2 File - Save as AVI to recode VOB file.

The following is where I make any changes to the XVID default settings.

Video-Filters

Highlight resize and select cropping.

Adjust cropping values as required to eliminate any dark bands.

Video-Colour depth

Output format is set as 4:2:2 (UYVY) but can also be RGB (555) or 4:2:2 (YUY2)

(all above show file properties with video sample size=16bit)

Video-Compression

Select Configure

Encoding type has been Set as single pass.

To run two pass change the encoding type.

1st pass creates file video.pass in root directory.

2nd pass creates XVID file using video.pass data.

Let us know what you think about the output compared to PocketDivXEncoder :D

XVID.zip

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I use PocketDivX too. I choose the "Pocket PC" settings from the start-up GUI giving an output resolution of no more than 320x240 which seems to do the job at a fantastic rate. I usually increase the "audio" slider to 5 to provide decent stereo, leaving the "video" slider at 12 which uses the original source frame-rate.

Within the "Change" button on left hand side there is an option to maintain aspect ratio to keep widescreen as widescreen. This usually outputs an image size of 320x176.

This squeezes a 700Mb DivX or Xvid down to around 230Mb. There's also the option to output as an Ogg Video with Ogg audio too within the "Advanced" settings menu, but I haven't tried that (yet), prefering to leave it as an avi with mp3.

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I'm using PocketDivXEncoder as well, and I'd like to get Ogg audio, but cannot see the option to select that under the Advanced menu??

Can you post a screenshot, or give some more infos where to find it?

Do I have to install an Ogg codec seperately to get this option?

Edited by Nilist

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Can you post a screenshot, or give some more infos where to find it?

CGB.bmp

That seemed a VERY large attachment so I hope it doesn't turn out to be HUGE

Have you got the latest version? Currently 0.3.50 I imagine you'd need the Ogg codec for TCPMP on-board but I would think PocketDivX has all it needs already, but, like I said, I haven't used these settings myself yet.

[EDIT] Well that didn't work as expected :D I hoped the image would appear like a jpeg does - within the post. If you can't d/l the image (or can't be bothered, I know it's a bit big) then I'll try again. ;)

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