Guest nedge2k Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 [teaser] The guys over at SOGI have got their hands on the HTC Monet (formerly known as the Trilogy), another of HTC's mobile TV handsets. Unlike the Forseer, however, this device is DAB-IP and what's more, it's the world's first DAB-IP device! Now, you may be wondering what the hell DAB-IP is exactly? Well...[/teaser] In a nutshell, DAB-IP is similar to DAB (digital radio) in that the signal is broadcasted OTA (over the air). DAB/DAB+ don't use video codecs though. DAB-IP and DMB on the other hand do, hence why they are suitable for mobile TV. DMB uses an MPEG4 codec. DAB-IP, however, uses a (less efficient) Windows Media codec. HTC's decision to choose DAB-IP over DMB seems pretty cut and dry but hey, who am I to speculate :) Anyway, the Monet has the following specs:Windows Mobile 5.0 for SmartphoneDAB-IPQVGA screen1.3MP cameramicroSDThis is all pretty much common knowledge but now there's some nice new real life pictures of the device and some screenies of the OS :) Babelfish translation of SOGI's impressions of the device and more pictures HERE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I played with this at MEDC! One other tidbit of info, it has the new style HTC Camera App installed... :) P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Coming v v soon on Virgin Mobile... P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confucious Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 What sort of TV do you get on it in the UK? Is it "normal" FTA digital TV or just special channels? Can you get subscription channels? And what's reception like in real life - any idea? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest w411y Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 That TV button looks like a nasty tumour :) Is there some sort of reciever in there or something? It's a nice design except that wierd bulge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix (MVP) Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I'd imagine the "bulge" probably incorporates the antenna. What does the new camera have over the old ones Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bongo_king Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 That TV button looks like a nasty tumour :) Is there some sort of reciever in there or something? It's a nice design except that wierd bulge Yeah, it's a bit of a mutant - As for the practicalities, does this pick up the same signals as a digi-box then? Anyone got the tech-how to answer? If you can just walk around picking up TV from the ether, then this is a killer, but if you are locked into a (mobile) network to broadcast DAB-IP, I can see it being metered and just way too expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peekie Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Although tv would be cool it will be a bit worthless in europe as all the sevices need a smartcard , in holland for example there is only nederland 2 free to view, not really a channel to want to get a phone with a bulge and looking at freeview all the good channels are encoded also with a smartcard :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confucious Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 you can get all the BBC and ITV channels on freeview in the UK so it's not to bad - IF you can get them on this phone. If it is just stuff broadcast by the network then it's probably going to be an expensive novelty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner (MVP) Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Between this and the Forseer, the Forseer gets my vote as landscape is my prefered viewing option for TV etc. Also the NVIDIA graphics are tempting. Also keep the chargeer handy as you are probably looking at 3hrs viewing time going by reports I have read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confucious Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Is that so you can see all the gory details of your ankle injury when it's shown Ash? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sporkguy Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I'm digging the vibrant red colour, but I'm not liking the design - a bit too ugh for me. The Nokia N-series TV phone looks quite delectable though :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 DVB-H rather than normal terrestrial... P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confucious Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 So what does that mean then Paul? Will uou only be able to receive channels provided by your phone co? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I think so, yeah...? P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 For a few more details see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4711974.stm P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swampie Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 So what does that mean then Paul? Will uou only be able to receive channels provided by your phone co? Digital TV comes in a number of flavours. DVB-T (terrestrial - what Freeview uses). DVB-S (sateliite). DVB-C (cable) and DVB-H (handheld). For each, the transmission method and the encoding etc is different. You can't receive digital terrestrial signals on a satellite box, and you can't receive satellite on a cable box. Similarly you can't receive DVB-T on a DVB-H device. I understand that when the analogue signal is turned off, the government wants to sell off some of the frequency spectrum freed up. In fact, this is WHY they're going for a analogue switch off, to sell the spectrum and make some money. Apparently, one of the planned sales is to use some of the spectrum for handheld TV, although there are other ways of receiving digital TV to handheld devices other than DVB-H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confucious Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Thanks for that Paul and Swampie. I'm sure someone is willing to pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 So WM5 AKU2, but running on the old Typhoon-style OMAP 750, rather than the newer OMAP 850 platform... P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pd.ryder Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Sky Movies are now allowing downloads to subscribers over broadband (anyone know what format they're using?) so if the idea of unlimited data takes off, would this type of arrangement work via 3G? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confucious Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Don't know what format they're using (I'll check) but they are encripted and only last for a month. Someone would have to encode them for handheld screens and it would probably be more effort than it's worth to them - but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 This phone receives signals like a DAB Radio does. The TV channels are carried on space on the national commercial digital radio multiplex "Digital-1" Stations on this mux include Virgin Radio, oneword, Core, Capital Life, talksport and Planet Rock. These are apparently receivable along with the TV channels being broadband by I believe BT. I'm not sure if its possible to recieved DAB radio channels on other multiplexes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crispy Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Ok, I think I'll join the crowd in saying that this phone really has a very strange design... I mean, its starting to look like that (supposingly) "stylish" line of phone Nokia has... Someone, pull the emergency break, please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pondrew Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 So WM5 AKU2, but running on the old Typhoon-style OMAP 750, rather than the newer OMAP 850 platform... P Your memory letting you down Paul? The Typhoon had the OMAP 730, twas the Hurricane that sported the OMAP 750 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix (MVP) Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 On a side note, why is this device named after an artist? Surely HTC could have come up with something a bit more TV-orientated? (or Magician/Wizard/etc obsqure!) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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