Guest Paul [MVP] Posted January 7, 2004 Report Posted January 7, 2004 MoDaCo Plus members can now obtain Motorola unlock codes for a paltry £5! Full details can be found here: http://smartphone.modaco.com/viewtopic.php...p=353055#353055 The first ten customers will get their unlock free to celebrate the launch of this offer! Enjoy! :) P
Guest sonborj Posted January 8, 2004 Report Posted January 8, 2004 on what is motorala locked to in the first place? just curious.
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted January 8, 2004 Report Posted January 8, 2004 It's SIM unlocked on whatever network you bought it on.
Guest mcwarre Posted January 8, 2004 Report Posted January 8, 2004 I believe that Millpc is also offering unlocking to non-Plus members. :) Not sure how much though.
Guest millpc Posted January 8, 2004 Report Posted January 8, 2004 Yes, everyone benefits from being MoDaCo PLUS member with discounts for many things and NOT JUST UNLOCKING! However even NON PLUS members can purchase their unlock code AND still recieve some discount. 50% DISCOUNT for MoDaCo PLUS members and 20% DISCOUNT for NON PLUS members. FURTHER DISCOUNT is available for quantity and pre-payment. We unlock all makes/models, not just motorola, but Nokia,Sagem,Siemens,Phillips and many many more. We welcome enquiries from dealers or anyone considering making some extra money by unlocking phones for friends etc. Students wanting to make some extra cash can request unlock codes by text message whilst at college! WHAT IS SIM LOCK? ------------------------ Most Networks (AKA: carriers,providers) Lock handsets so that you can only use a sim card from the same network the handset was purchased on. Unlocking your phone will give you the freedom to purchase or use a SIM card from another network in your own country and to also switch from contract billing to a voucher system, also known as pay as you go or pre-pay. It will give you the opportunity to change the SIM card to a local provider when abroad, allowing much cheaper calls. It may also increase the value of the phone if you sell it.
Guest rawmike Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 Just remember, all uk phone companies must give you the unlock codes, should you request them if your contract phone is over 12 months old. Pay and Go customers can request an unlock code as soon as they have bought the phone. If your network providers don't give you the code you can report them, as by law they have to give it to you.
Guest millpc Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 Actually this is completely incorrect. And just confuses people. No network HAS to unlock your phone. And there is nothing in the law which says they HAVE to. May i ask where you obtained this information. After 15 years in the business (5 at nokia service level and 5 for Vodafone and 5 years doing my own thing) I am just curious.....
Guest rawmike Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 This information was given to me by Orange, the account manager for where I work, one of my jobs involves dealing with this sort of thing. He told me that due to a change in the law this was the case, and that any company which doesn't can face a massive fine.
Guest millpc Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 I suggest you ask him to ring a very big organisation called OfCOM!!! In fact, just to add weight to what I am saying, these are the FACTS:- 1) Contract customers may after 12 months request their unlock code, they do not HAVE to provide it although they usually do, at a price! 2) Pay as you go customers (voucher/pre-pay) may also request it after 12 (although minimum terms vary) months, they do not HAVE to provide it although they usually do, at a price again! 3) Contract or Pre-pay you are entering into an agreement. The agreement is that the network subsidises the cost of the handset and in return you accept (among other things) that the handset is SIM-LOCKED. You also accept that the network reserves the right after 12 months to deny your request for an unlock code at their discretion. 4) Their is almost always a charge, unless you speak very nicely and then you maybe lucky! They all charge! Lastly, maybe you should ask your manager to tell the guys in the executive office at Orange - they seem to think otherwise!
Guest rawmike Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 I am just saying what I have been told. I have had over 25 phones unlocked by them, never at a cost, I also know of at least 15 people personally who have had there phones unlocked for free by the network they were on, accross a range of networks, some contract phones, and some pay and go. I also know of people who have bought pay and go phones, and had the phones unlocked in the shop by the person who sold it to them, before the sim updates have even come through, and then have put another networks sim card in it. Also with the software that is available now on the web there is no reason that anyone with web access, or a bit of common sense should pay for there phone to be unlocked. Fair enough if you make money out of it, I just cannot see how anyone would pay for something that they can get for free with a bit, and only a bit of time.
Guest millpc Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 I'm not telling you what I've been told. I'm giving you FACTS. BIG DIFFERENCE! Orange -------- Contract: £20 after 12 months, or £20 + Line Rental x Remainer of contract. Pay as you go: £20 Vodafone ----------- £19.99 - After 12 months FREE O2 ----- £15 after twelve months T-Mobile --------- After 3 months £15 ==================== These are the facts. If you want to get into the prices of software and cables and possible damage you can do then lets do it. Also you mention shops who unlock phones even before the sim updates come through. I would suggest you keep that quiet as regardless of who their distributor is (mainline,european telecom etc) they would lose the right to sell handsets from that network, if the network hears of it. Lastly - you find me some FREE SOFTWARE - that will remotely unlock/genarate codes for Motorola or Sagem!!! It doesnt exist. In fact ind me anything FREE that will unlock any NEW handsets from Motorola or Sagem, remotely or otherwise! So you were wrong about the : "If your network providers don't give you the code you can report them, as by law they have to give it to you." And you are wrong about the free software!! Would you like to continue, or might it be wise to stop now?!!!! :)
Guest rawmike Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 Alright then, don't wet your nappy about it. What I have been TOLD, and from my EXPERIENCE there are many many ways around paying for you phone to be unlocked. Just because you have been quoted those prices, or had to pay them, doesn't mean everyone has to pay that, maybe some of us are just nicer and more polite on the phone, so they don't feel the need to charge us. Can you post links to where these prices are written in stone for me, as seeing as you have said they are FACT, they must be. And as for me sourcing some free software for you, go and have a look yourself, I can assure you it can be gotten for free off the web, that is a FACT!
Guest millpc Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 I'm far too busy to be providing links to prices and since you made the claims, perhaps you should post the links yourself - just to prove that you are not talking rubbish, which by the way is what everyone thinks! I offer Motorola unlocking for £10, discount for members here means its only £8, PLUS memebers get it for £5 - perhaps you would be good enough to research the cost of a cable and explain how people are losing out! Thats presuming the software is free which it isnt. And there isnt any software to unlock mpx200 - so you are wrong again! Also there is nothing free to unlock Sagem 2k3 versions, so you are WRONG AGAIN! How do I know this - I know the main authors who specialise in this stuff. I know most big resellers of software, not just in UK but in WORLD! Are you the same person who stated that the UK networks were breaking the law if they didnt give you your unlock code??!!! ha ha ha dear me. :) Anyway, I'm off to tell Vodafone,Orange,T-Mobile,o2,Virgin and three that they are breaking the law!!! ha ha ha ha funny, at least you made me laugh today :D :lol: :)
Guest rawmike Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 I didn't make the claims that they cost anything, you claimed them, I am claiming that anyone who pays for unlocking is a mug. You seem to miss what I am trying to say, if you make money off people who can't be bothered to spend a small amount of time, then good on ya, I don't have a problem with that, I was told by orange that it was the law now that they had to supply codes after a 12 month contract had expired, and all the experience I have had shows that this is the case, just cos you say FACT after something doesn't make it true, it just makes you sound like Alan Partridge. As for you stating that there is no software available that is free, well done on wasting time and looking through the whole of the web, you must indeed have plenty of time to spare if you know what is on every web page, congratulations on a monumental waste of time. Oh and just because you had to pay for the software doesn't mean everyone does, everyone who uploads and downloads stuff on the web isn't bothered about the software being illegal, some are, some aren't, just cos you don't have any illegal software doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I am glad this makes you laugh, the world needs more laughter, and you remind me of the quote "Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics, even if you win you are still retarded"
Guest fozzie Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 I don't know about anyone else but I find that last quote offensive! I don't think we need that sort of language here. Posted from my SmartPhone!
Guest millpc Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 I didn't make the claims that they cost anything, you claimed them, I am claiming that anyone who pays for unlocking is a mug.Sorry but this is news section. You make claims that you canget this software for free and then dont show it. Dont you think that is a tad unfair for the very few people who believe you? If you have something, then show it - and help all people who cannot afford £8/£5 !! You seem to miss what I am trying to say, if you make money off people who can't be bothered to spend a small amount of time, then good on ya, I don't have a problem with that, I was told by orange that it was the law now that they had to supply codes after a 12 month contract had expired, and all the experience I have had shows that this is the case, just cos you say FACT after something doesn't make it true, it just makes you sound like Alan Partridge. First you said you were told by your manager because you deal with this alot?? Get your story right! As for you stating that there is no software available that is free, well done on wasting time and looking through the whole of the web, you must indeed have plenty of time to spare if you know what is on every web page, congratulations on a monumental waste of time. Oh and just because you had to pay for the software doesn't mean everyone does, everyone who uploads and downloads stuff on the web isn't bothered about the software being illegal, some are, some aren't, just cos you don't have any illegal software doesn't mean it doesn't exist.I dont need to look, people tell me! And i have staff, so i can always get one of them to look. OK, i will explain slowly for you to understand ok. Yes free software exist for some old motorola models, some motorola with acer chipset (although some software versions/models not supported and all software need cable) and some p2k versions. I WILL SAY AGAIN: ALL FREE SOFTWARE USE CABLE. OK? So even if free software, you need buy cable. Lastly, you seem to have resorted to abusive posts. Is this because of your comment: If your network providers don't give you the code you can report them, as by law they have to give it to you.
Guest rawmike Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 Sorry but this is news section. You make claims that you canget this software for free and then dont show it. Dont you think that is a tad unfair for the very few people who believe you? If you have something, then show it - and help all people who cannot afford £8/£5 !!You want a website, try w w w . k a z a a . c o m First you said you were told by your manager because you deal with this alot?? Get your story right! My account manager does work for Orange, hence he is my orange account manager I dont need to look, people tell me! And i have staff, so i can always get one of them to look. OK, i will explain slowly for you to understand ok. Yes free software exist for some old motorola models, some motorola with acer chipset (although some software versions/models not supported and all software need cable) and some p2k versions. I WILL SAY AGAIN: ALL FREE SOFTWARE USE CABLE. OK? So even if free software, you need buy cable.Are you seriously telling me you don't know anyone who can get cables for free, come on, all you need is someone who deals with accounts, and they can get them easily, or why not buy a cable and share it with your friends, not hard that is it, if one of my friends needed a cable to connect there mobile to there pc, I would be able, and willing to get them one for free, and I know a couple of other people who would also do this, surley you are not saying most people don't have friends!! Lastly, you seem to have resorted to abusive posts. Is this because of your comment: I cannot belive you class this as abusive, if you do, then go and open your front door, big wide world out there. Actually if you find this abusive then perhaps you shouldn't go outside. Also I was told that it was law by the people at orange, so if they are quoting things as laws that make it worse for them and easier for me, I wish a lot more people would do that!
Guest millpc Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 You obviously have a problem. Saying you have got the software and then providing a peer to peer link is like me selling unlock codes and telling people to go to www.motorola.com Put your money where your mouth is and give a proper link to Motorola software which does new models. So how do you have an account manager at orange? I can smell bs! :)
Guest rawmike Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 You say you have the staff to search the internet, get them to do it. I have an account manager at orange as I deal with them for the company I work for, as I said before. Shocking isn't it, spend a fortune every month on phone calls, and they have someone to look after you, crikey what next!!
Guest millpc Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 You say you have the staff to http://smartphone.MoDaCo.com/search.php>Search the internet, get them to do it.Oh I'm not thinking of myself, just that many people reading this will be thinking, why pay for unlocking from www.madtones.net when rawmike is such a nice guy and can get it for us for free. They are still waiting for this free stuff you say you have mike. In fact i am still waiting also, it would save me such alot of money to have this free stuff and free cables as well. I spend 5 figures each year on cables from hong-kong, they say they are cheapest, but free they cannot beat that price now can they?!!! I have an account manager at orange as I deal with them for the company I work for, as I said before. Shocking isn't it, spend a fortune every month on phone calls, and they have someone to look after you, crikey what next!! What next indeed. Maybe you will provide the FREE cables and UNLOCKING software for the many people on the forum who want their phone UNLOCKED for FREE?? Then again, maybe not. Maybe never Mike?!! If your network providers don't give you the code you can report them, as by law they have to give it to you. Alot of maybe's...ha ha ha ha...reminds me of a song... Maybe baby you'll be true!! (Buddy Holly) SO PLEASE, EVERYONE WHO WANT THERE PHONE UNLOCKED FOR FREE AND FREE CABLE POST HERE, PLEASE!
Guest rawmike Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 Sounds like you are clutching at straws here, why should I waste my time sorting it out, next time I need to get an unlock code, and I can't get it off my service provider I will, but seeing as that has never happened I don't think it will happen. You were the one who said you know what is out on the internet, if you really do know, then point the little people in that direction, me I couldn't care less if the little people have to pay, if they ain't polite enough to be able to get it from orange not my problem. You spend 5 figures each year on cables, good for you, I wasn't talking about setting up a business doing it I was saying someone can get "a" cable for free, difference there isn't there. I have unlocked phones for people in the past by getting the codes direct from orange yes, not something I would do for people I don't know, but I have done it for a lot of my friends, you know, real people in the outside world where they are so abusive! Is this what you keep coming back to, the fact orange told me something, and it is beneficial to me, so orange told me it was the law, and are sticking to it as though it was, if that is the best you have got then no wonder you enjoy a lagh about it. And then all of a sudden I find out why you are scared of the outside, you are a buddy holly fan, that explains it all, don't fret I am sure the nurse will be around soon with your pills, and then it will all be nice again in your little padded cell, away from the abusive world.
Guest millpc Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 Just a minute you post a reply in the news section implying motorola codes can be got for free and that anyone who pays is a mug! But you are mug because you still have not backed up your claim. Remember who started this topic and why and maybe you will understand the importance of justifying your statement. So either link to the software you say is OUT THERE for FREE for MOTOROLA, or shut up. I predict you will answer with load of rubbish again, but NEVER EVER A link for this FREE software for MOTOROLA!!!!
Guest rawmike Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 YOU CAN GET THE CODES BY PHONING UP YOUR SERVICE PROVIDER Just like I have on numerous occasions
Guest millpc Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 Just a minute you post a reply in the news section implying motorola codes can be got for free and that anyone who pays is a mug! But you are mug because you still have not backed up your claim. Remember who started this topic and why and maybe you will understand the importance of justifying your statement. So either link to the software you say is OUT THERE for FREE for MOTOROLA, or shut up. I predict you will answer with load of rubbish again, but NEVER EVER A link for this FREE software for MOTOROLA!!!! I'm quoting myself because really this guy have nothing. Just alledges that Orange,Vodafone,O2,T-mobile and Virgin will give you your codes for free!!! SO WHERE IS THIS FREE SOFTWARE. YOU SAY IT IS ALL OVER WEB - SO PROVIDE LINK. You are still making false claims. I already tell you about conditions for getting code from service providers. Maybe if you have massive business account with orange they make a special case and unlock your phone, but most people do not have this. And also what about people who buy contract phone and they are not the original owner?? You just talk rubbish. PROVIDE LINK TO FREE SOFTWARE AS YOU SAID BEFORE! I spend years and years in cellular industry in various different forms, not just speaking with Business Accounts manager, but Non-Customer facing,IT support at Vodafone,Retail, Worked for NOKIA Service Hub in UK at tech level and have met and liased with many software designers over the years. SO, once and for all provide this free software. We all laughing very hard at moment - many people are seeing you dont provide the link to this free software and so think that your statement about getting codes from Orange for FREE is BULL also!!! ha ha ha
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