i wanna know more about the video capabilities of my e100

[Guest simonbratt99]

hi

Id like to put video clips on my e100 (i have the lastest update)

but the clips ive tried always pause alot, maybe ive got the setting wrong or the clip is somehow in the wrong format or res.

Id like to know if anyones got a decent clip that shows what it can do.

thanks people

Simon

[Guest squall]

its really more of a slide show on the spv im afraid!

[Guest davo141]

i've got some music videos if u want some? they work fine on my e200

[Guest mattscholey]

its really more of a slide show on the spv im afraid!

I think by this your refering to video capture, which is how you put it.

Video playback however is awesome.

Matt

[Guest squall]

I think by this your refering to video capture, which is how you put it.

Video playback however is awesome.

Matt

:lol:

[Guest simonbratt99]

hi,

im just after a good video playback demo file.

and would like to know exactly what format i can convert other avi's or wmv etc to work well on the spv e100

thanks for ya help so far

si

[Guest rickt]

I've been experimenting with video files for the SPV and find that Windows Media Player seems to like .wmv files OK. Convert your .avi 's using something like Windows Media Encoder [version 9 for XP or version 7 for Win 98/ME], it can convert them to the right size for a smartphone or pda. Transfer them to your memory card and away you go.

[Guest Taoski]

Check the Articles section of these forums.

There is a tutorial on converting using the Windows Media Encoder.

[Guest martin]

Have you tried pocketTV at www.pockettv.com

I spent a few nights downloading the mpeg animations & film clips from www.pocketmovies.com and I thought they looked awesome. I tried many of the animations up to 240*184 and the playback was good.

Definitely worth a try :wink:

I wasn't too impressed with WMV files on SP 2002 :evil:

[Guest simonbratt99]

pocket tv doesnt work :-( i mean no web page

[Guest simonbratt99]

pocket tv DOES work oh man, its perfect ty v much

[Guest siu99spj]

For more info on the SPV's video abilities (And how to make your own) check out here: http://www.modaco.com/viewtopic.php?t=95746

[Guest mattscholey]

I use PocketMVP to play the video on my E100. Then I use VirtualDub along with Clint Eastman's DivX settings v2 to encode the video so that it will work on the phone.

And i'm lovin it!

Matt

[Guest Chaos]

I've just bought a 2nd hand unlocked SPV e100 - still waiting for it to arrive in the post... :lol:

Anyway, I was wondering if it is possible to watch full-length movies on the phone? If so, what format would they have to be in and how big a memory card would you need?

I've used PocketTV on my old PocketPC (HP Jornada), but was only really able to find movie trailors and short clips. :D

[Guest simonbratt99]

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PocketTV plays MPEG-1, my favourite of all PocketPC video formats. I like this because, mainly, how fast it plays. MPEG is dependable, compressible, and plays well and in fullscreen. It's probably mainly just because I love the features of the program, and best of all, it's FREE. Well, I know none of the other players cost money, but come on, this one has so freaking many features, and it works so well. So, those are my arguments for PocketTV. On to the true compression.

For the purpose of this tutorial, we are going to use a program called TMPGEnc (http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html). This is a program used simply for compressing (you guessed it!) MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 video files. It is very simple to use, especially with its wizard, but the wizard seems to make the versatility a little less "at your fingertips." So, as soon as you open TMPGEnc, press "cancel" on the wizard.

Where it says "Video Source," press browse and browse to your uncompressed video file. Once you select it, the program will automatically assume that you want the audio stream from your video file to be the audio source. If you don't know what that means, ignore it. Where it says output file name, browse to where you want to put the file and name it what you want. I recommend changing the filename from what it was because while the files will be different (one will be MPG and one will be AVI) they both open with Windows Media Player on a PC and look exactly the same as an icon.

Now, we're into the meat of the tutorial. Select Setting. Make sure your stream type is MPEG-1 Video. Your video size should probably be 320x240, since that is the size of a sideways PPC screen, which is how you will view it fullscreen. Aspect ratio should be 4:3 525 line NTSC (625 line PAL for our friends in Europe).

These next two parts are critical, and will effect your filesize vs. quality on your pocketPC. I refer to this entire section within all of the compression tutorial sections.

Framerate. A few thoughts here. A normal NTSC video camera plays video at 30 frames per second. That is, it displays 30 (technically, 29.97) pictures of the film every second. This gives a very smooth look, and is one of the differences between home video and film. Film is shot at 24 (technically, 23.976) frames per second. This gives a distinct film look. Depending on what your video was is how you decide this. I recommend that if you do not understand the next section, you should probably go over the rest of this part of the tutorial and come back to it. Here's the facts:

A higher framerate will give you less quality, because it is spreading out your allocated bits of memory over more pictures. If you were to say that you will give 40 kilobytes to 30 pictures, the pictures would be lower quality than the same 40 kilobytes to 15 pictures. Each picture (frame) is being given more memory to display, so it can have a higher quality of image. That's probably insanely confusing, but trust me on this, the point is that if you raise the framerate, either also raise the bitrate or be prepared to have a lower image quality.

Now, why wouldn't you want to lower the framerate? The only downside of doing so is that your film will appear SLIGHTLY more "choppy" than before. This is not a huge sacrifice. It is probably a good idea to chop your framerate in half. Also, don't raise the filesize past 30. The human eye can't really detect many more frames than 30 per second and also the video was only shot at maximum 30 frames per second, so you'd just be wasting quality.

CONCLUSION ON FRAMERATE: So, if you want to keep the perfect framerate and don't mind the drop in quality / boost in filesize, then make it 24 fps if it came from a film and 30 fps if it came from a home video. Now, if you DO want higher quality, then if your file came from a film, then I recommend that you chop the standard 24 frames per second (fps) framerate to half that (12 fps). If your file came from a home video camera, change the 30 fps to 15. You could even go to 10, but that would make it rather choppy and a little irregular.

Make sure your Rate Control Mode is already set to Constant Bit Rate (CBR).

And this next step is what determines your filesize. For this, you will have to do a little math with me. I can thank some of the more tech-savvy people at the pocketmatrix.com forums for clarifying this:

Decide how many megabytes you want it to be. To get reasonable quality at 12 fps, a good idea is about a megabyte per minute. So, do the math:

I want 1 megabyte per 1 minute. 1 megabyte = 1024 kilobytes, and 1 minute = 60 seconds. Therefore, I want 1024 kilobytes per 60 seconds. However, it is being measured in kilbits, not kilobytes. There are 8 kilobits in a kilobyte, so it's..

(filesizeMB * 1024 * 8 ) / (Length of movie in minutes * 60 ) = bitrate

1 (megabyte) *1024 * 8 / 1 * 60 = 136.5 kilobits / second.

What I just showed you was simply how to do it for a megabyte per minute. If you want to add quality, simply increase your allowance of filesize. Give all the filesize you can spare and you will have a higher quality movie.

Wait! Come back here, that's not all! We didn't figure our audio into the equation. Audio takes up space too. Now, on a PPC almost all movie audio is easily heard even at the lowest bitrates. So, to save space, go to the Audio tab, put the frequency on 48000, and change the bitrate to 64 kbits/sec. Now, subtract that 64 kbits/sec from your 136.5 kbits/sec and you get about 72 kbits/sec! THAT is your bitrate for roughly 1 megabyte per minute.

Note: For some reason the process is not 100% exact. You will notice discrepancies between your expected and your observed filesizes. It seems that Windows will report your filesize, and it may appear or be larger than your compression. My prognosis: This is either because of an inconsistency within TMPGEnc, or Windows has a flaw that incorrectly reports filesizes in some video. Either way, always leave plenty of room for error. I would recommend that you bump your bitrate down another 12 or 20 kbits, even. This will almost guarantee you a nice compact filesize, while not making a huge difference (since it's only 12 or 20 kbits / sec) in video quality.

Now, BEFORE you export, don't forget to save your template! Press Okay to the Setting menu, and press the Save button adjacent to the Setting button. I recommend you save this in the Templates folder inside your TMPGEnc folder. This will allow your Pocket PC setting to be applied inside the wizard, so you don't have to deal with the messy settings all at once. Next time you begin TMPGEnc, your settings should show up on the wizard. Careful! Sometimes it appears that it won't save some settings correctly, and you may have to readjust your video resolution / framerate / bitrate. This will set the grounds for you, though.

All saved? Good. Now, in the top left part of the window, press Start. This will begin your encoding! Watch the video preview as it compresses your file. It is NORMAL that it will be jumpy, because it is compressing (normally) faster than thirty frames every second, and giving you a full framed video preview would simply slow down the process. What you need to pay attention to is this: is the quality satisfactory? Yes, during periods of large movement it will probably be a little blocky, but that is a sacrifice you may have to make for small filesizes and smooth video. If your quality is NOT satisfactory, press STOP and bump up your bitrate. If you bump it up too high, however, your pocket PC might not be fast enough to play so many bits every second, and will begin to drop frames, so you have to find a good balance. When your video is done exporting, simply move it onto your pocket PC (probably your storage card) using File Explorer and open it in PocketTV. YOU ARE DONE! CONGRATULATIONS!

[Guest siu99spj]

I've just bought a 2nd hand unlocked SPV e100 - still waiting for it to arrive in the post... :lol:  

Anyway, I was wondering if it is possible to watch full-length movies on the phone? If so, what format would they have to be in and how big a memory card would you need?

Assuming you follow the link I mentioned above, you'll have no problems actually encoding the movie.

Assuming you follow the DivX guide, you'll end up with a movie between 90-120MB or so. This means you'll probably need a memory card of 256MB.

There's also the slight problem of not having enough battery to watch an entire movie, but I'll leave that in your hands.

[Guest simonbratt99]

id forgotten about the battery running out lol.

Ive noticed though, better battery proformance with that big update that can out a few weeks ago. It all helps, has anyone else noticed it, or am i imaginging it?

I wonder how long the phone would last when watchin a movie?

si