Using smtp.orange.net over passthrough connection

[Guest Lourdes]

Is anybody able to do this? It doesn't seem to work for me unless I'm using an Orange data connection and it's really annoying to have to change smtp servers when I switch between passthrough and GPRS. Can't use my ISP's SMTP on the move so I seem to be screwed.

Also if my ISP supported SMTP authorisation or SMTP after POP would I be able to access their SMTP server on the move or do Orange block all but theirs?

[Guest shadamehr]

Thats because irrespective of your ISP that you really use for Email, for SENDING of Email, when using the phone proper and GPRS, due to proxies and firewalls, you need to use Orange as the Sending service, thus why you use smtp.orange.net as the outgoing server address. This is because the GPRS is an actual ORANGE connection to the net.

BUT OF COURSE, as soon as you use the pass-through via active sync, you are NO lONGER USING ORANGE as the 'net connection' but instead your ISP.

And thus, the outgoing mail server is no longer valid, as it is using Orange as the server, whilst not actually using Orange as the 'connection' to the internet.

At that point, if you achange the outgoing mail server settings in your phone back to that of your REAL ISP, then you can send messages via the pass-thru.

But of course, as soon as you take the phone of the cradle, you will have to set it back to Orange.

There is no easy way around this, as its simply due to the circumstances involved.

Using the phone proper, you are using an Orange 'connection' to the web (the GPRS), and thus the outgoing server must be set to orange.

But if you use a pass through, then in effect, your ISP is the actual connection otto the net, and your ISP needs to be set as the outgoing server.

[Guest dude55]

What shadamehr wrote is correct.

I can think of a workaround though. This is to edit the hosts file on your PC and set smtp.orange.co.uk (or whatever it's configured to on your phone) to the IP of your ISP's mail server.

So your hosts file would have an extra line like:

smtp.orange.co.uk 123.123.123.123

Where 123.123.123.123 is the IP of smtp.yourisp.com.

If you have no idea what a hosts file is, please let us know what your OS is. Cheers.

[Guest Lourdes]

Thank you for the long post shadamehr, afraid I was already aware of all that though. Was just wondering if anybody had any contrary experiences and it wasn't just me.

dude55, that is a fantastic idea. Didn't think of doing that at all,will give it a try later on as it's sure to work.

Contacted my ISP anyway though, asked themif they could allow SMTP authorisation as I've successfully used another SMTP over GPRS using that.

How amusing, just a few minutes after checking my ticket and moments after writing the aove they got back to me telling me they can't enable it. Hosts trick it is then.

Edit: Yes the hosts trick worked great, got a question though. Is it possible to include multiple IP's for one host within the hosts file? My ISP's mail server resolves to two addresses.

[Guest dude55]

Cool, happy to know it worked.

Sorry, I don't know how to do that. You could just try two different lines or seperate the IPs with a space or comma, but as long as it works, I wouldn't bother :)