Guest morpheus2702 Posted May 13, 2004 Report Posted May 13, 2004 Or does there seem to be a real lack of activity in the MS smartphone world? Don't get me wrong and think this is some half-arsed pop at MoDaCo - it isn't. Is just seems that there is so rarely anything fresh to discuss. Sure we can all bitch about the E200 update being crap, we can all speculate as to when the ideal Motorola smartphone is going to appear. Hell, we can even sign a petition for flat rate GPRS... But where are the new products? Where are the new manufacturers? Are HTC actually going to release any new Smartphones or did giving birth to the E200 need stitches that haven't healed? Is the Voq the best we can expect to see materialise? Yes, it is easy enough to say 'watch this space' and 'HTC are working on something' but that is just stating the fcuking obvious! Ask yourself, what was the last significant thing you heard relating to Smartphone?
Guest spacecowboy6982 Posted May 13, 2004 Report Posted May 13, 2004 The last significant thing for me was the update :S odd you should write this now - I was thinking the same thing just there reading the frontpage of Coolsmartphone - not alot of activity - like you say, maily speculation :S spacecowboy
Guest zeta101 Posted May 13, 2004 Report Posted May 13, 2004 hopefully its the calm before the storm :)
Guest Disco Stu Posted May 14, 2004 Report Posted May 14, 2004 My thoughts exactly ; what with the 'next generation' phones coming out later this year.
Guest nedge2k Posted May 14, 2004 Report Posted May 14, 2004 Yeh the smartphone world has been a bit slow of late :? The hardware side is kinda to be expected but software is as bad :) Off the top of my head there are a few good apps that would be really useful but still haven't been made e.g. A PC based bluetooth activesync connection util that searches for your phone and when it comes into range it connects async or a pc file explorer plugin for smartexplorer. TBH i think people are just getting complacent...but if and when new phones materialize...more apps will come [-o
Guest Simon Desser Posted May 14, 2004 Report Posted May 14, 2004 I get the feeling that MS Windows Mobile hasn't really been taken very seriously by developers so far :roll: I'm sorry to compare it with Symbian UIQ, but there's rarely a day goes by without a new game/app (or two) coming out on Handango for Px00's. MS Smartphones are now 18 months old, and we still havn't got some "basic" applications :? Here's a few things I'd like to see:- Word/Excel Editor Decent MMS software with AMR support / wav-AMR convertor Simple Picture Editor (Crop, resize, brightness, contrast etc.) 3gp/mp4 Video Recorder Predictive text input (NOT T9) that predicts the whole word ("ezitap") Just a few off the top of my head :)
Guest morpheus2702 Posted May 14, 2004 Report Posted May 14, 2004 OK, glad to know it isn't 'just me'. But just exactly what are the 'next generation' phones, how are they defined? Ones that have a 1M+ pixel camera? Ones that are running WM2003SE? My contract is up this month and there is not a damn phone I can or want to go out and buy RIGHT NOW. That's a damn shame. I'm not big on following the software side, but again there has been nothing coming out that has made me get a semi. If it wasn't for the fact that it takes Memory Stick and it has an average camera, I'd be looking at a P900 right now. That's a damn shame!
Guest Uzay Posted May 14, 2004 Report Posted May 14, 2004 I would like, to control my mouse useing my spv and bluetooth... here's an app for our programmers...
Guest Mr_Protozoa Posted May 14, 2004 Report Posted May 14, 2004 I would like, to control my mouse useing my spv and bluetooth... here's an app for our programmers... That would be pretty smart, like some sort of remote control. Could be nice for something like myHTPC. Hey, why not make a bluetooth remote app for myHTPC menus?
Guest Taoski Posted May 14, 2004 Report Posted May 14, 2004 My contract is up tomorrow and i am slightly loathed to get an E200 - mainly because it only has 30% more functionality than my SPV and 200% more bugs and issues (according to what i read on here). The new Moto phones will probably be worth the wait - but hell - i am not gonna wait 6 months for it only to end up paying a shed load of cash for the privellige of having something new. IMHO - most people will not be able to afford to get an Mpx220, Mpx100 or Mpx for at least 5-6 months after they come out because they will be waiting for the price to drop. But the price will only drop when a newer model comes out! And the cycle never ends. The thing that surprises me is that there are lots of apps and games available for the PPC - but the developers are not porting them to the smartphone platform. Why is this? What do they know that we don't? I expect that in their opinion the Smartphone is not yet a mature enough product to concentrate on. I know that PPC PDAs are not perfect and do crash - but who would want to develop a bluetooth application for an E200 when the battery would get drained quickly and then the SD card would stop working! It is right that the Px00 Symbian apps are more easy to develop? (ps.. Friday afternoon rant over)
Guest morpheus2702 Posted May 14, 2004 Report Posted May 14, 2004 This is what I mean! (referring to earlier Bluetooth program post) There is so much speculation on 'what about this?, what about that?, wouldn't it be good if?..' It can be fun sometimes, but if all we talk about on here is ideal speculation, then I might as well speculate about being hung like a baboon and having a million in the bank. There is no substitute for hard (or hard-ish) fact! As appealing as such a BT program would be, I am sure E200 owners would like BT functionality to run seamingless and without draining their battery
Guest Pondrew Posted May 15, 2004 Report Posted May 15, 2004 My contract is up tomorrow and i am slightly loathed to get an E200 - mainly because it only has 30% more functionality than my SPV and 200% more bugs and issues (according to what i read on here). Â Maybe it's functionality is only 30% better (maybe more), but there is no way my E200 is anywhere near as buggy as my original SPV was. My E200 next to never crashes whereas the SPV regularly locked up. Similarly the SPV showed the timer all the time whereas the E200 rarely does.
Guest morpheus2702 Posted May 15, 2004 Report Posted May 15, 2004 Posted from my SmartPhone! Guys can we keep this on topic? There are plenty enough 'my E200 is great/is s***' threads going on without adding to them. :-/
Guest Coucou Posted May 15, 2004 Report Posted May 15, 2004 What I can't understand is why anyone feels the need to be loyal to a product? I've moved to the Treo, but I don't feel the need to be loyal to that either. It's a product, not a system of morality! Manufacturers try to encourage customer loyalty in order to get more money out of us, why fall for it? Posted from my Treo!
Guest Pondrew Posted May 15, 2004 Report Posted May 15, 2004 :shock: Sorry :) Back on topic, I understand where you coming from Morpheus, but there are still software announcements regularly. Yeah, the Smartphone platform isn't seeing the level of development that Palm or Symbian is, but it's a much younger operating system. It'll come, sooner or later.
Guest Pondrew Posted May 15, 2004 Report Posted May 15, 2004 What I can't understand is why anyone feels the need to be loyal to a product? I've moved to the Treo, but I don't feel the need to be loyal to that either. It's a product, not a system of morality! Manufacturers try to encourage customer loyalty in order to get more money out of us, why fall for it? Posted from my Treo! I don't think I'm being loyal to my product, just stating it the way I see it. When I say my E200 isn't crashing, it's because it isn't crashing.
Guest Vector Posted May 15, 2004 Report Posted May 15, 2004 I don't think I'm being loyal to my product, just stating it the way I see it. When I say my E200 isn't crashing, it's because it isn't crashing. The only thing wrong with my E200 is the battery life, i have had absolutely no lockups, so as Pondrew says, it's not a case of being loyal to E200... There is ALOT more good with my phone than there is wrong, only thing i can think of is battery life and the SD Card disconnecting sometimes, but that is easily fixed by taking it out and putting it back in :)
Guest Coucou Posted May 15, 2004 Report Posted May 15, 2004 oops, I made the mistake of putting in my conclusion without my train of thought, sorry. What I should have said to start with is that one of the reasons I jumped bandwagon is that there wasn't a great deal happening in the ms world. I don't think they have very many people working on it and there aren't that many third parties developing for it. Someone mentioned they were confused about why ppc developers hadn't ported to smartphone. I reckon it's got quite a bit to do with the extra effort they have to put in. Posted from my Treo!
Guest morpheus2702 Posted May 15, 2004 Report Posted May 15, 2004 It's very true - I could quite easily see my next handset being Symbian if a flip version with 1M camera (i.e. one announced by Panasonic) comes out before the MPx220. I recently acquired an Ipaq 1940 after 18 months without one and I had forgotten just how much slicker a PPC is. But you have to ask yourself just how easy can Smartphone be to program for when the standard Media Player STILL doesn't have FF or RW!!! :shock:
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