Guest Y-Wing Posted June 23, 2004 Report Posted June 23, 2004 This is from Yahoo! today Deutsche Telekom's T-Mobile joins Vodafone, Orange to become SavaJe shrholder LONDON (AFX) - Deutsche Telekom AG (Xetra: 555750.DE - news) 's T-Mobile is investing in US company SavaJe Technologies Inc, and will join Vodafone Group PLC (LSE: VOD.L - news - msgs) and France Telecom SA (Paris: FR0000133308 - news) unit Orange to become a shareholder, the Wall Street Journal reported in its online edition. SavaJe is a start-up that is developing an operating system to control phones with multimedia applications. The paper cited SavaJe chief executive Bob Gilkes as saying the three cellphone operators, as well as several venture-capital firms, had just invested 40 mln usd in the company. Vodafone, Orange and T-Mobile together will own 26 pct of SavaJe following the latest funding round. Vodafone and Orange both invested 3.5 mln usd in SavaJe in the previous funding round early in 2003. The Journal said the move highlights how cellphone-service providers are wary of becoming dependent on Nokia Corp, the world's largest cellphone maker, or software giant Microsoft (NASDAQ: MSFT - news) for handset software. Vodafone, Orange and T-Mobile, together with four other operators, plan to announce today that they are banding together to call on handset suppliers to adopt a set of common software standards, it said. The service providers want to ensure that the latest cellphones run software that will give consumers easy access to their own Internet sites, videogames and other multimedia services, rather than services supplied by technology companies, such as Nokia (Helsinki: news) or Microsoft, it added.
Guest chucky.egg Posted June 23, 2004 Report Posted June 23, 2004 What about Palm? And isn't there a Linux one being talked about too? This new thing is just the Operators trying to hamper people using other services - so that they get the revenue. They're not even subtle about it. How would you like a phone that can only access content Orange say is OK? (sorry "3" users!)
Guest midnight Posted June 23, 2004 Report Posted June 23, 2004 ugh, i heard about this ages ago, its a 100% java based os, i dont hold out much hope for it to be honest and chris is correct, there are also linux and palm, and a few other smaller, less well known ones
Guest morpheus2702 Posted June 23, 2004 Report Posted June 23, 2004 How about Sony Ericsson moving away from both Symbian and Palm to develop its own OS?
Guest Lordpercy Posted June 26, 2004 Report Posted June 26, 2004 is it worth it? sureley MS with their software might will find a way of bundling their windows mobile much like they did with IE to kill off netscape. And then a Linux style open source alternative shall appear with users rejecting MS and installing their own OS. Sounds familiar why can't we just cut to the end game and skip those poor fools pouring cash into a lost fight? LP Lordpercy.com
Guest gravity Posted June 29, 2004 Report Posted June 29, 2004 Isn't the OS upto the manufacturers? Manufacturers will only pick the best solution for their product, and the only company I see using this OS is Sharp.
Guest midnight Posted June 29, 2004 Report Posted June 29, 2004 gravity, not entirely, if the manufacturers make something that no carrier wants then they wont sell them to any carrier, so indirectly its the carriers who dictate what OS goes in handsets. This is what MS now need to do, not just get manufacturers on their side, but get the Carriers to want to have MS Smartphone devices, but to do that they need to sell it to them as more than just a business phone. The OS is flexible enough to be a business phone, a multimedia phone, a games device etc. it just needs MS to persuade manufacturers and carriers to sell it that way (Sagem are actually selling the MY-S7 as a multimedia device, not a business phone)
Guest chucky.egg Posted June 29, 2004 Report Posted June 29, 2004 ...what MS now need to do, not just get manufacturers on their side, but get the Carriers to want to have MS Smartphone devices... I agree, You also have to remember that people bitch to their Carrier first when they have a problem - All the people with dodgy E200s are going to Orange to get them fixed, and often getting annoyed with Orange in the process. MS have to persuade Carriers that these phones wont get them a bad name. Personally, I don't think current MS Smartphone handsets (and the OS) cut it as a Business Phone. It's no worse (but no better) than an old Moto T720 I had - that did all of the "business" functions that my E100/200 does
Guest midnight Posted June 29, 2004 Report Posted June 29, 2004 but they are great multimedia devices, and 'could' be amazing gaming devices (beat ngage no worries), give these things a week long battery life and they could be awesome business phones, but who would use a phone for business with 24 hr max battery life? they have the functions needed, really good calendar functions, really good email functions, internet browser, .NET language so IT guys can write their own dedicated business apps., so I wouldnt say its no better than a T720 at all, but the battery life is the real killer for business use (without going into device specific problems)
Guest pmckean Posted June 29, 2004 Report Posted June 29, 2004 "The Third Way" I've had both an e100 and an e200, and was a little disappointed by both, although the e200 was definitely a step in the right direction. Had a series 60 device too, but the default software (e-mail clients etc) is so basic that it really annoyed me. The only good OS experience I've had on a handheld device has been with Palm OS, so I'm resisting the temptation to buy an MPX-200 when it's finally available, and will plump for the next PalmOne Treo (either 610, 660 or 'Ace' depending on who you believe). 320x320 screen, Bluetooth, 32Mb RAM, 312Mhx processor , 1.2 Mbit camera and Palm OS 5.4 (unconfirmed specs)..... it's a winner. They can't make enough of the standard Treo 600 in the states, where it's the top-selling smartphone - but I reckon we'll see the revised model before Q4.
Guest chucky.egg Posted June 29, 2004 Report Posted June 29, 2004 have the functions needed, really good calendar functions, really good email functions, internet browser, .NET language so IT guys can write their own dedicated business apps., so I wouldnt say its no better than a T720 at all, but the battery life is the real killer for business use (without going into device specific problems) Yeah, you're right - I was selling it kinda short Calendar sync was my particular bug bear... why can't I sync with public folders on exchange? the Moto could! its stoopid!
Guest midnight Posted June 29, 2004 Report Posted June 29, 2004 guessing they think it isnt necessary cos its so easy to just copy files back and forth anyways, isnt there a third party app that does this?
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