Newb needs help with GPRS configurations

[Guest longone]

Hello all... Im new to this smartphone thing and I just purchased an SPV E200 from the UK (Im in the US). I got it unlocked (sim) and working however I cant get it to connect to the internet via GPRS. I have contacted my provider and they gave me all the info but I cant get it configured properly.

Im in the US and use Cingular wireless as a provider. Can anybody help me out? Any US users?

Thanks in advance

JL

[Guest Brody]

Welcome to the site :D

This is taken from the GPRS/WAP Repository:

Connection name: anything you want here... i have Cingular GPRS

Connects to: The internet

Access point: isp.cingular

username: [email protected]

Password: CINGULAR1 (all in caps)

dns1: 66.209.10.201

dns2: 66.209.10.202

no ip...

Is this what you have?

[Guest longone]

Thanks for the prompt reply and the welcome. I feel pretty lost right now...

No thoes are not the seetings I have... when I called Cingular the tech seemed to be as cluless as I. She said no DNS addresses but to use an IP address. Most of the other information was diffrent than what you have as well.

That being said I tried the settings you posted and it still does not work. Is there anything else I should be checking?

Thanks again

JL

[Guest martin]

longone

Try the settings here

http://www.modaco.com/viewtopic.php?t=4861...er=asc&start=60

If you have any problems let us know error you are getting :wink:

[Guest Brody]

Martinn, thats where i got the Cingular settings i posted as i said :D

No need to hunt through Martin's link "longone", just try the ones i posted and let us know how you get on...

[Guest martin]

Martinn, thats where i got the Cingular settings i posted as i said :D

No need to hunt through Martin's link "longone", just try the ones i posted and let us know how you get on...

He did :D

That being said I tried the settings you posted and it still does not work. Is there anything else I should be checking?

I only pointed him there because it has the GPRS WAP settings too which I think he must have have if Cingular gave him an IP address.

BTW I wasn't trying to step on toes :wink: I just saw that there hadn't been a response for a while.

[Guest longone]

Martin...

I read through the post you refered me to and found the settings you listed for USA Cingular. Thanks a ton. I assume I need to configure all thoes settings to make this work? Well anyway I will get started. Thanks a ton and I will let you know how it goes.

Cheers

JL

[Guest longone]

Well needless to say I struggle...

I used all the setting from the Post Martin refered me to and I still cant connect.

The error I am getting is "Error: Unable to connect. Verify you have network coverage and try again."

I am pretty sure I have network coverage as I was able to connect last week with my non-smartphone.

I have a few questions that maybe you all can help me with:

1) The settings given to me by Brody were not included in the settings from Martin. Should they be incorparated somehow? Why are the diffrent?

2) What is DA (Data Acceleration?)? I notice the setting can differ depending on weather it is on or not. What is the diffrence between DA and non DA and how do i change it?

Finally here is the info I was given by the Cingular tech for a new GPRS connection:

Description: Cingular GPRS

Connects to: The Internet

Access point: wap.cingular (case sensitive)

User name:[email protected] (case sensitive)

Password:CINGULAR1 (case sensitive)

Primary DNS: none

Secondary DNS: none

IP Address: 66.209.11.61

Anything else you guys can tell me or suggest would be great...

Thanks

JL

[Guest martin]

It's probably because you are trying to connect using Access point isp.cingular and you are not subscribed to Cingulars full Internet service.

You should hopefully have 'Cingular WAP' created in the GPRS connection data and the proxy connection created. Make sure WAP connection=Cingular WAP in the Data conenction main menu.

Then goto Internet Explorer, Menu-Options-Connections, UNTICK 'auto detect' and make select 'Select Network: WAP network'.

If you then access www.google.com/wml it should work.

[Guest longone]

Ok some progress... I no longer get the Error it just says that it cant find the page. I tried other pages and no luck there either.

I followed your instructions and have the WAP account set up and internet explorer looking in that direction.

What you said about the Cingular internet service is interesting... I may need to look into that.

In conjuntion with this issue, I cant send e-mail from my POP 3 account either. There I am still getting the Error message.

Sorry to be such a pain... I really appreciate the help.

JL

[Guest martin]

The 'page not found' error is one step closer as it means you are succesfully connected (small G should stay active next to signal bar) and that the Access Point Name is setup in your account.

Unfortunately many applications like E-mail, MSN messenger and full web access need the the full GPRS internet service which usually costs more than the GPRS WAP service.

Not sure why you got page not found though :? I would check the proxy connection. Try changing the proxy IP to 66.209.11.61:9201

Also try wsp://www.google.com/wml or wsp://device.home

[Guest longone]

I went back and checked the setting and it worked (I did not change the proxy setting). I almost fell out of my chair I was so happy. What do you know, a little GOOGLE!

I have the little "G" in the corner. On my old phone I needed to disconect from the internet, do i need to do that here?

The Error I am getting from the email deal is:"Unable to connect. Verify your dialup or proxy settings are correct and try again".

On the internet service idea... I was able to send and recieve e-mail with my old phone. So I think I have somthing wrong here, either in the POP3 setup or in the data connection settings.

Should I try another proxy address?

thanks

JL

[Guest martin]

I have the little "G" in the corner. On my old phone I needed to disconect from the internet, do i need to do that here?

No, if you are using GPRS then you don't need to worry as you are charged only for the quantity of data transfered and not for the time. The IP connection will evetually drop out after a period of idle time (no data transfer) but this can be set in Settings-Data Connection, Menu-Options-Connections. I set mine to 10 minutes.

The Error I am getting from the email deal is:"Unable to connect. Verify your dialup or proxy settings are correct and try again".

The E-mail is probably setup to use the Internet connection and it sounds like you are not subscribed to the Access Point isp.cingular that you presently have attached to it. You could try and change to Internet connection to Cingular WAP and then test it with E-mail or Internet explorer (by changing Select Network: The Internet) but Cingular may not allow access with this WAP APN.

On the internet service idea... I was able to send and recieve e-mail with my old phone. So I think I have somthing wrong here, either in the POP3 setup or in the data connection settings.

What phone were you using and can you remember the settings that you used ? Also was it WAP e-mail ?

Should I try another proxy address?

Many network providers are using port 8080 now for the newer and more capable WAP 2.0 phones. I'm not sure if cingular use it yet but you could try 66.209.11.61:8080

It's a case of finding out what each network will allow with their WAP service as it varies. Alternatively an Internet service will give you full and unrestricted access for all applications.

[Guest longone]

Ok... just called Cingular and confirmed that I am signed up for GPRS. This kind of confused things for me more.

Right now I am only able to connect to the internet and to use email with my Data Configurations as follows:

Internet Connection: Cingular WAP

Secure WAP Connection: Cingular WAP

POP3 Network: The internet

When I connect the little "G" appears by the battery meter.

So am I connecting using WAP? If so what are the implications compared to GPRS?

My old phone was the pda/phone Motorola A388... she did not like being dropped in the ocean and is no longer with us.

At least i am connected right?

JL

[Guest martin]

Right now I am only able to connect to the internet and to use email with my Data Configurations as follows:  

Internet Connection: Cingular WAP  

Secure WAP Connection: Cingular WAP

POP3 Network: The internet

With the 'Internet connection' you only use the APN (Access Point Name) WAP.CINGULAR itself whereas with the 'WAP connection' you will be using the APN WAP.CINGULAR + the WAP proxy server.

Connecting to the Internet via the WAP APN+proxy server is sometimes handy to get into some WAP sites which don't recognise the smartphone as a valid WAP device and thus refuse to give access directly (or may transfer you to the WEB version of the site). WAP+Proxy is how nearly all GPRS WAP phones are setup.

When I connect the little "G" appears by the battery meter.

This indicates that you are using a GPRS session. Two arrows indicate a GSM data connection.

So am I connecting using WAP? If so what are the implications compared to GPRS?

WAP refers to the protocols and also applications (i.e MMS, microbrowser) contained in the phone. With the smartphone we also have what are considered Internet applications like Internet Explorer, MSN Messenger, E-mail (inbox), etc.

Both the WAP and Internet applications require a physical data connection and this can be a GSM timeslot/s, GPRS or even the PC modem (pass through connection). GSM data connections are setup using dialup digits and GPRS uses Access Point Names.

Network operators generally provide two APNs, one for WAP over GPRS and the other for Internet over GPRS. The WAP APN mostly gave restricted access and was used for all the basic GPRS WAP capable phones and the Internet APN gave unrestricted access and was used for PDA's and PC internet connections. There was usually a difference in subscription charges and data transfer costs between the two.

Before GPRS, WAP applications only used a 9.6K GSM Circuit Switched Data connection which most people still refer to as a WAP connection.

Hopefully the above should help for the following.

1 Cingular call their GPRS WAP service 'Wireless Internet Express'.

You should be able to get all the pricing and details from HERE

The level of access given for the associated WAP APN will depend on the network provider. Fortunately with advances in WAP (mainly WAP 2.0) we are starting to see less restrictions and improved service. It is possible to use the WAP APN for internet application if the network provider allows it.

I think the WAP over GSM is just called Wireless Internet (not express).

2 Cingular call their GPRS Internet service 'Data connect'.

You can find the plans and details from HERE

I sense I've been rambling on here but I hope it helps :D

Oh BTW, DA is for Data Acceleration which I suspect is some form of data compression and you probably need PC/software to run it. Worth checking out.