Should I upgrade to WM2003

[Guest wilgar]

Just recently bought an Mpx200 from Ebay, I love it.

Comes with WM2002, but I downloaded all the things to flash it to 2003

The question is: should I? What would I gain... Is it worth all the problems I may get?

Please share your experiences/opinions

Wilgar

[Guest awarner [MVP]]

Welcome to the site :)

You will gain the use of .net so a few more applications (not many more at the mometn) and multiple email accounts plus

the use of wma ringtones.

You will lose the ability to use MMS and a usable T9 when writing SMS.

[Guest dahquim]

I have done the upgrade, and i am now wishing that i had not... althou there are a few extra supplied with WM2003. i am missing the orange plugin.

Dahquim

[Guest otacon]

I found that the upgrade to be great... programs run faster, a clearer and sharper screen...

[Guest Osiris]

keep em coming post your experiences with the WM2003 software, ive been weighing up whether to do the same or not myself..

[Guest philthy]

I dont think anything runs faster, i have the same reception, i have about the same battery/talk time. The only improvement i can see is now i can access any website whereas before it would only allow me to access websites that were made for smartphones/pda's . That was a big incentive to me.

Also if you have the files you can go back to 2002

[Guest verbetex]

I've done the upgrade and the key things that I like about 2003 are:

1) Better battery life

2) The folders system for SMS and email, mainly the fact that if a message fails to send due to no reception (frequent in my house), it is still in the drafts folder to edit (with 2002 you had to goto the sent folder, forward, then remove all the forwarding stuff).

3) Delivery reports always on (although I don't seem to get consistent results with them like I did with my old Nokia, anyone else find this?)

4) Jawbreaker (although slurp is available on 2002, I think Jawbreaker is better)

5) I can say I have 2003 :)

HTH

[Guest verbetex]

Forgot to say the things I don't like...

1) No MMS (although I never send any, occasionally people send me them)

2) The T9! (Anyone else find that it sucks and performs really wierdly when you have entered a word manually? i.e. attatching your word to the end of the one you just deleted?)

[Guest flashflash]

Here are my experiences of WM03... on Orange UK

1. Battery- no change in standby time

2. Speed- slowed down everything

3. T9- utter joke.. complete waste of time

4. MMS. I never used it before so it missing isn't a big problem

5. GPRS- was a bit hit and miss before, but now a complete joke, takes ages now to get a connection, and normally drops within a few mins!!

6. Reception- No difference

7. E-mail. can have more than one account set up, but there is no sound alert when recving a new e-mail

8. Software- Yes, now runs WM2003 software... which is great news

9. Homescreen- Orange plug-in not installed

10. Colours and schemes- Only have the option of default and Spiral.. :)

overall, I wished I still had WM2002. Unless you really need to run .net software, dont bother

[Guest TmB]

I reverted to 2002 this morning, after having 2003 for the last 2 months. Why did I go back?

1. Worse battery life.

2. Weird memory behaviour... memory usage goes up on its own during the day, forcing me to restart the phone every day or two to clear it back again (and yes, I was killing apps using a task manager).

3. T9 was really annoying me. Its good to have it back in a (semi) usable state.

From 2003, I miss:

1. Separate folders for email/SMS.

2. Cleartype.

3. Jawbreaker.

The things I miss from 2003 are cosmetic, to be honest. The benefits of going back to 2002 outweigh them.

- Dave.

[Guest dodding nonkey]

I've been thinking about upgrading to 2003, but reading this topic, I'm not so sure UPgrading is the right word. I don't think I'll bother just yet thanks! Why all the problems with an 'improved' OS? Surely it should be quicker, better, more reliable and full added features?

[Guest awarner [MVP]]

It's not an improved OS it is a ROM that was hacked and

released ilegally and so did not go through the proper testing

procedures.

[Guest pauliewog]

The Question still remains then is there a legit new 2003wm out there as of this date? And if so how can I install it to my MPX200. From system inof here is what is installed. Windows CE Version 3.00 build 13121. How far off from a current ops system am I? Thanks in advance

[Guest awarner [MVP]]

Simply put there is not a legal version of 2003 to download

for the mpx200

[Guest dogpound16n]

EDIT awarner

[Guest pauliewog]

Thanks Awarner, thats all I wanted to know :)

[Guest Bobronco]

I have had my smartphone for alittle over a year and you know how we get when we obtain new toys and technology, we obsess!! Well, i do anywayz :) those first 2 months i was reading, downloading, hacking the registry, browsing websites, doing all the things that i couldn't do on my legacy phones. It was great.

As time passed and all the bells and whistles wore off, got rid of my unlimited GPRS package ( Porn just isn't the same on that tiny screen :twisted: ). My eyes were bleeding from reading thousands of forum posts on phone customizations, i started getting apathetic about my smartphone. I missed all those little things that a normal cell phone should do. Things like answer call waiting reliably, like dialing a phone number and not having missed the first number, like having a call display that darn well displays on the first ring!!

I was getting so fed up that, this month i was trying to sell my phone.

But one day i said "hey i wonder if theres a fix to that call display issue on my phone available for download" and started the forum shuffle again. WOW there is a 2003 update. By now there isn't any free downloads of this new bit of code, so i crack and ebay it. $3.99 what the hell, it's a starbucks Mocha Frap.

I was impressed immediately by the look of the cleartype. I didn't think that it would improve the functionality of the phone as newer and bigger OS's usually slow things down.

To my suprise, I now have a working external call display with all my 300+ contacts on the first ring! <---thats the important one for me... i don't have those random 5-7 sec hangs anymore. When i dial a number now, well hey, there it is, no more first number missing. The phone just seems to run smoother and faster.

These are the important things to me on a phone. I heard that the IE now supports different web standards, there is bluetooth support and you can have wma ringtones. I haven't tried these things yet but it is the small things in life that keep me from throwing things off roofs.

Moral of the story is everyone has their own reasons for doing things decide if it's right for you!

BTW: I'm in canada on the Fido network eh

[Guest awarner [MVP]]

Bluetooth support will not work on the mpx200.

there are a few things that are in the registry that are not mpx200 related.

[Guest wasyed]

I too was thinking about the upgrade... and after hours of reading forums and other things in other web sites.. ull be amazed at how many problems there are floating around. and well yeah you can go back to 2002 if u find a good rom.. but question is, would it be as good as the one already installed on your handset? I dont know which one has all the updates so Im not having much luck with finding a 2002 rom with the fixes and stuff on my phone. especially if your not an at&t user, chances are you'll have more problems. and you know what? after a few days of using this phone i can see that the phone is becoming more stable and the menus are more quicker. So it looks like my phone is fixing itself the more I use it so who knows maybe the same will happen to you and you'll be glad you didnt upgrade... however if someone does have a really good 2002 rom with fixes and updates, I'm willing to give it a shot just to "experience" how the 2003 is. most likely i will be going back though if i do upgrade.. im just wondering what the hype is about and i rather see for myself. Wish there was a way to create a backup copy of my current system...

[Guest tendomentis]

I bought my MPX200 from an ebay dealer, and it came with a 2002 ROM preloaded. I ran across a website (no longer there of course) that showed the 2003 os alongside the 2002 os, and I decided I liked the 2003 os better. So I acquired the 2003 (the last version that was released for the mpx200) and all its little fixes (gsm stack update and triband update) and installed it in one sitting.

Impressions - I love it. I got a cab from customcabbage.co.uk to speed up the menus (which was my only gripe) and I love it. I just bought the homescreen designer and created a wicked theme for my phone....something I could not have done if I still had the 2002 os

Windows media player streams my radio stations of the net better than before and plays all my videos off my sd card (I have them all encoded using WM9).

The screen is easier to read, and my GPRS is handled better. My battery life is SOMEWHAT improved, but almost negligiably. Speakerphone and headset aren't giving me a problem.

And that little glitch with the windows media player homescreen plugin doesn't seem to affect my phone as it seems to affect other mpx200 users.

It doesn't blow 2002 away, but it IS enough of an improvement to be worth it in my eyes.

[Guest otacon]

hmm... many people have had bad things to say bout the WM2003. Nevertheless, I am very happy with WM2003.

[Guest steini]

EDIT please read the rules before posting

[Guest philthy]

the main improvement I noticed was now i can look at any webpage, so i can sit around using google looking s*** up while in class or something. Before i could only look at webpages that were specifically made for smartphones which isn't a whole lot.

The battery life might be a little worse, but once you learn to manage the programs(close them when your not using them with resource manager) then the battery life is basically normal.... Also when your sleeping put the phone in flightmode it can go like 10 hours without takingup any power like that

All in all I dont regret the upgrade the use of the internet is worth it for me. Also you can use lots of cool themes so you dont need to worry about how it looks, Just download them from the other part of this forum.

[Guest wasyed]

thats weird, the web works regardless for me no matter what web site i go to, not just ones made for mobiles.

[Guest awarner [MVP]]

It should do and has done since the SPV was first released.