1 big problem with HTC Universal

[Guest extravagant]

1 big problem here folks, the phone doesn't flip like the mPX 300, and therefore its gonna be a lot harder to dail properly etc without touching with ur hand the touch screen. I hope they fix this before they release it, else sales will fall. What do u guys think, is it a problem?

[Guest beersoft]

i dont think its going to be a problem, as it wasn't a problem on the xda/mda, xda2/m1000/mda2, xda2s/xda21/m2000/mda3 or the jam compact thingy

the key phrase is "touch screen" which are ment for touching and stuff

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Owen

[Guest extravagant]

i dont think its going to be a problem, as it wasn't a problem on the xda/mda, xda2/m1000/mda2, xda2s/xda21/m2000/mda3 or the jam compact thingy

the key phrase is "touch screen" which are ment for touching and stuff

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Owen

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I know what u mean, but its kinda difficult to talk with that, a lot more effort rather than just open the phone (if twas flip) and just start dailing.

[Guest commonpersonjustlykeverybody]

i think the problem with HTC universal will be

BIG, as in too big (but i'm still not bothered with the size, i can't wait to have one).

and the price is too MUCH (the price will be mad as in MAD) ;) !!!

[Guest extravagant]

i think the problem with HTC universal will be

BIG, as in too big (but i'm still not bothered with the size, i can't wait to have one).

and the price is too MUCH (the price will be mad as in MAD) ;) !!!

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lol, yea.. far to expensive, its just not worth it, unless u can buy me one :D

[Guest adamski]

lol, yea.. far to expensive, its just not worth it, unless u can buy me one ;)

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How expensive do we think?

Having one anyway!! :D ;)

[Guest Disco Stu]

Full price (SIM-free) will probably be around £400 - £450 I think.

[Guest extravagant]

Full price (SIM-free) will probably be around £400 - £450 I think.

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lol thats krazy, maybe if it had integrated gps

[Guest beersoft]

why is that a 'crazy' price?

find a pda with that spec for less, or a sim free mobile for less (pay as you go doesn't count as the network still pays a hefty chunk of the handset cost)

the only other pda with that spec is the zarius cl3000 which is £800, so £500 is cheap

and

a big flappy gps ariel would make the phone look like ass, and kill the battery far too quickly

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Owen

[Guest extravagant]

why is that a 'crazy' price?

find a pda with that spec for less, or a sim free mobile for less (pay as you go doesn't count as the network still pays a hefty chunk of the handset cost)

the only other pda with that spec is the zarius cl3000 which is £800, so £500 is cheap

and

a big flappy gps ariel would make the phone look like ass, and kill the battery far too quickly

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Owen

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GPS is the most important and will enhance the end user experience by a significant margin, its far better then the camra, arguably. 500 pounds is like $1200 canadian. Which if u ask someone to pay that much here, they will think ur simply krazy. And since I am Canadian, I do agree, thats a krazy price. No 1 here has a smartphone, the first ever smartphone offered here in Canada is from Rogers Wireless (the SMT 5600). So, it is a krazy price, obviously. Not 2 many people can dish out 500 pounds to buy a phone mate. And obviously no, u cannot find a phone cheaper with the same specs, obviously.

And it wont drain battery power, u dont keep GPS on all the time, much the same u dont keep bluetooth on all the time.

[Guest Jakob]

Whats wrong with a BT GPS?

/J

[Guest beersoft]

GPS is the most important and will enhance the end user experience by a significant margin, its far better then the camra, arguably. 500 pounds is like $1200 canadian. Which if u ask someone to pay that much here, they will think ur simply krazy. And since I am Canadian, I do agree, thats a krazy price. No 1 here has a smartphone, the first ever smartphone offered here in Canada is from Rogers Wireless (the SMT 5600). So, it is a krazy price, obviously. Not 2 many people can dish out 500 pounds to buy a phone mate. And obviously no, u cannot find a phone cheaper with the same specs, obviously.

And it wont drain battery power, u dont keep GPS on all the time, much the same u dont keep bluetooth on all the time.

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i keep my bluetooth on all the time

and a bundled gps isn't much good without apps that use it, and i personaly dont want to add another £200 for a copy of tomtom that i already have

and its not just a phone at the same spec, find a pda with the same spec (minus the phone bits)

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Owen

[Guest extravagant]

Whats wrong with a BT GPS?

/J

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Nothing is wrong with it, though I dont see why u would want to carry an external device with u, when u can have it integrated in the handset.

[Guest extravagant]

i keep my bluetooth on all the time

and a bundled gps isn't much good without apps that use it, and i personaly dont want to add another £200 for a copy of tomtom that i already have

and its not just a phone at the same spec, find a pda with the same spec (minus the phone bits)

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Owen

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Theres other Appz that dont need TomTom, like microsoft pocket streets and that other programs that utlized gps, including Hiker or something, and this program here http://msmobiles.com/news.php/3941.html These are great programs, and would make the phone itself more enjoyable and would add a lot more functionality.

[Guest simontan1]

Full price (SIM-free) will probably be around £400 - £450 I think.

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Phew, if that's the case it will be bloody expensive. I just bought a brand new laptop for the same price with pretty decent spec. Let's hope Orange can offer a good deal when my contract is up for renewal otherwise it's out of my range of what I would spend on a handheld, no matter how state of the art it is.

[Guest hunyango_uk]

built in gps would be a nice touch, you can carry your phone and use the navigator at the same time while you are walking, in a bike, bus or your own car without having problem with bluetooth connection(or cable connection). why have two device when you can have it all in one.

downside

1. i agree the battery life will drain much faster.

2. how much will it cost?

3. when?

Edited June 22, 2005 by hunyango_uk

[Guest extravagant]

built in gps would be a nice touch, you can carry your phone and use the navigator at the same time while you are walking, in a bike, bus or your own car without having problem with bluetooth connection(or cable connection).  why have two device when you can have it all in one.

downside

1. i agree the battery life will drain much faster.

2. how much will it cost?

3. when?

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yeah, thats my point mate. WHy carry another device? It just makes life harder. And integarted GPS is coming soon, really soon and should be a norm soon.. the HP Messenger pocket pc phone has integarted GPS and its coming out in July, check the link. http://msmobiles.com/news.php/3937.html, also check out this smartphone with GPS http://msmobiles.com/news.php/3895.html and check out this program that looks pretty good that utilizes GPS http://msmobiles.com/news.php/3941.html. There are more programs like that, just read the article everyone.

As for battery life, GPS shouldn't be on all the time. You should be able to turn it on and off, like bluetooth and wifi. I wouldn't want it on all the time, due to health concerns!

Also, with GPS (bill gates was talking about this) you can request to see your friends location, kinda like a text message pop up, ur friend then accepts, and the location is then displayed on a map on ur phone with the quordinates that are sent back after ur friend accepts. You can probably use Pocket Streets to do this.

GPS is really good, and it should be integrated. When a good smartphone comes out, with querty keyboard etc like the HTC Universal (except smaller and lighter - still prob a while away) then I will buy it, given it has GPS.

[Guest chakraj]

heres another problem. if you live in north america our new upcoming umts network is on the 1900mhz band and the rest of the world is on the 2100mhz band for umts so the universal will be on the 2100mhz band wich meens that we will not be able to use its umts even if we have it in our area. stuck with gprs on a 3g device I think Ill pass

[Guest extravagant]

heres another problem. if you live in north america our new upcoming umts network is on the 1900mhz band and the rest of the world is on the 2100mhz band for umts so the universal will be on the 2100mhz band wich meens that we will not be able to use its umts even if we have it in our area. stuck with gprs on a 3g device I think Ill pass

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I would pass in that case, too.

[Guest beersoft]

it not working in your country would put a downer on owning one, but im sure HTC are going to release a CDMAx1 or whatever your crazy standard is across the pond :)

later

Owen