Guest DJHope Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 Here Posted From "microsoft.public.smartphone" Dade: "Thought you guys might like to see the pics I have of Quake 1 running on my SPV. I know its not a binary group but sorry! The .exe is in a very, very early stage of development, we may not bother to take it any further, but what do you guys think?"
Guest neuronisis Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 Please re-think and take this further, it looks great!!!! As you said it's at an early stage of development but how is the SPV coping so far with the game? ;)
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 Let me test it for you Pleeeeaaasssssse i'll be your friend for life ;) :lol: :lol: :D
Guest DJHope Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 Heres a follow-up post please remeber this has nothing todo with me i am mearly copy and pasting a post that was on "microsoft.public.smartphone" From: Dade "Well the source is totally unoptimised for the SPV. To display size hasnt been set to work properly on the phone. The sample rate for the sound effects hasnt been sorted yet. There are a lot of technical issues to resolve, I wont go into them here. That said we have managed to get about 5 to 8 fps out of it with some basic sound setups. The whole thing is a bit flakey right now, sometimes when you run it you get a high frame rate, others you get about half a frame a second."
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 DJHope can you edit your post and give us the full link address of that site please? ta Ashley
Guest HelloDave Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 It should definately be taken further! It looks great; i'd port it myself if I knew anything about game programming! Give Nokia owners something to be really jealous about ;)
Guest DJHope Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 Erm well the link to the microsoft smartphone forum is http://www.cewindows.net/newsportal/thread...blic.smartphone Their is no offical SPV Quake site or anything like that!
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 Wow, that would be awesome! I imagine the framerate would increase when the display size is optimised... P
Guest Arisme Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 not if you resize it after working on the virtual display :wink:
Guest HelloDave Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 5 - 8 fps is pretty good considering it's running an unoptimized (for the SPV) game engine, redering a bigger screen than it needs to and using higher quality sounds than necessary. I reckon it could be amazing with a bit of work (hint hint). Even 15fps should be just about playable. Not sure about the controls though!
Guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Posted January 17, 2003 Awww man, I just hope that's the real deal and not some joker that's done some creative .jpg manipulation. GIMME QUAKE!!!!!!!! :twisted:
Guest Southwestwall Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 I'm forum hopping between here and microsoft.public.smartphone To add a little more meat to the topic, I borrowed this from DJ XTC's post: >See orange its this kind of development we wanted and if you continue >with >destroying the SPV with certification we will NEVER see freeware >applications like this and quake CANNOT be distributed any other way >since >the source code is under GNU, and im sorry but that dosnt necessarily >mean >it isn't a quality application as some might suggest! > >DJ XTC > As DJ says, Q1 source code was released to GNU by Id Software some time ago. Which basically means it cannot be used commercially. How will it ever get Orange certification if it cannot be sold? - it has to be freeware. There's no way around that bit, I'm sure Id Software have some serious clout, especially if someone tries to sell their 'free gift to the PC community' through a TelCo... The only way forward would be for someone to get permission from Id and GNU [i presume] to pay for the certification and develop Q1 for the SPV for FREE. Could you honestly see Orange, a [greedy is self -obviating with telcos] TelCo, agreeing to someone paying for certification for a killer game to GIVE IT AWAY? On their latest cash-cow? It may actually be worth a try, but unless app signing is removed [do not hold your breath people...] the martyr paying for certification and developing Q1 as freeware route may be the only way you'll ever play it on the SPV.
Guest DJHope Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 Its alright rn[max] i liked your comments unfortunately i dont see that orange are going to allow this and i forsee the death of freeware on its mobile network! I have 2 aliases DJ_Hope here at modaco and DJ_XTC over at MS i just prefer it that way ;) Although DJ_XTC lessens my credability due to its possible drug reference, however i like to think people look past that because frankly id neva touch the stuff. DJ_Hope
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 How about if a stable, good Quake (unsigned) was completed, we could all chip in to get it certified? That would work? P
Guest crimminsky Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 Yeah Paul, you could ask all your registered users to chip in, lets say 20p, that would be enough wouldn't it? I'll gladly chip in a pound!
Guest DJHope Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 Paul i guess thats a possiblity, but would they ever sign something such as an emulator? It appears that baltimores signing method its much more relaxed because theyll sign apps for you and then if their is malicious code they can revoke the certification and send an update to stop it from running on any other phones (or that was my understanding). Has anyone spoken to baltimore?
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 I'm sure we could get the app signed. I'd be happy to co-ordinate the effort if required... Of course, someone has to port it first ;) P
Guest DJHope Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 Yep paul id but some cash in, especially if i win the survey draw ;)
Guest spacemonkey Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 Baltimore is definitely the way to go... Their system (as I understand it) is that once your signed up then you get a mechanism on the web that you can put your apps through for immediate signing. The only limitation of the baltimore certificate is that I think it's unprivileged only, so if you wanted to do a network game I'm not sure whether their cert would work. As the price is 500 pounds for 75 signings, we just need to all donate that amount, any freeware that appears could be tested by the people with open phones, and once it's bug free (enough) sign it and give it to everyone else. By getting it tested unsigned we'd not waste Baltimore signings on buggy code. I'd happily donate 10 quid toward a program like this...
Guest crimminsky Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 right, so we just need someone to port it then, and get ID and GNU to buy into it...........
Guest spacemonkey Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 ID and GNU don't need to be involved. If it's GPL then we have the right to do what we like. The only requirement being that we make the full source and compiled app freelly downloadable off the web. If someone tried to go down the Baltimore path they need a limited company and that's it. So we just need a competent coder with an interest in porting it.
Guest DJHope Posted January 18, 2003 Report Posted January 18, 2003 Quake IS being ported..watch this space! DJ Hope
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