Stinker?

[Guest Paul [MVP]]

I wonder what Microsoft would make of Orange referring to their beloved Smartphone 2002 (codename STINGER) as STINKER?

He he he...

See screenshot below:

Tut tut! ;)

P

[Guest Monolithix [MVP]]

Heheh, another disgruntled employee.

Theres a few typo's in various Windows releases, can amuse you for a few minutes at least ;)

[Guest awarner [MVP]]

I wonder how many "easter eggs" are hidden on the phone's software ;)

For those who don't know what I'm talking about, an easter egg can be a piece of

code,picture etc that were put in during development, normaly as in-jokes.

Good example was in Excel97 with the right combination of key presses you had a 3D flight simulator.

More info

http://www.eeggs.com/

[Guest psneddon]

No easter eggs, Microsoft banned easter eggs in their software as part of their Trustworthy Computing push. No unauthorised code is allowed in any Microsoft Software now.

[Guest Monolithix [MVP]]

Why didnt they put those resources into removing more of the unplanned bugs, rather than deliberate ones :/

[Guest Ed]

Because the latter is vastly easier I imagine :)

[Guest samjam]

"]I wonder what Microsoft would make of Orange referring to their beloved Smartphone 2002 (codename STINGER) as STINKER?

He he he...

See screenshot below:

Tut tut! :)

P

This may be related to the fact that IHomeScreenEnvironment2 interface has one method which can convert from homescreen colour names to RGB values, but this was not documented as part of the original Smartphone 2002 OS.

Perhaps an Orange developer was annoyed about this.

Sam

[Guest plog]

I wonder what Microsoft would say to non MS sourced homescreens using their copyrights and trademarks (re: Longhorn by Richie) - or what artists would say to 30 second clips of their music being used as ringtones under the now defunct fair use policy. All ringtones in any format must legally be registered if they are to be sold so the artist in question doesnt lose out on any royalties - there are stiff penalties based on the computer misuse, copyright acts to be enforced by RIAA and whatever british agency covers that - i read only last week the brits are in for a whole bunch of law suits like the states have been getting based on fileshare networks.

Call be a twat, but i see this forum as a network and i see files available to be shared.

Same goes for things like The Simpsons, the Matrix, Red Dragon, and a whole bunch of other homescreen themes, they are starting to crack down on producers of these products based on the non lisencing of their product on equipment they may not like their tradmarked property on.

Ive seen a few cases recently that touch on this and the results were not favourable, regardless how many excuses were used in the dock... one was a photoshop artist aged 19 from Birmingham; he was producing custom screens as a montage of trademarked images without permission - mainly MTV and music based.

Digital Rights Management ...... Funny ole world init.

[Guest Brody]

Plog, you said it yourself:

All ringtones in any format must legally be registered if they are to be sold so the artist in question doesnt lose out on any royalties

No-one is selling ringtones on MoDaCo! They are all free to be downloaded :)

[Guest nedge2k]

Stinker's in 2003 as well :) Always thought it was strange :-s

[Guest plog]

Isnt "free to be downloaded" another way of saying "piracy" - look at fileshare networks - however you look at it an artists work is being used without their permission to enhance an item without said artist reaping any benefit.

[Guest Brody]

I believe there to be a law that makes sound clips under a certain length legal but I am no expert so correct me if i'm wrong? MoDaCo is VERY strict on piracy and warez so if it were illegal it wouldn't be permitted, as such i believe it to be legal...

[Guest plog]

Sorry, its a phalacy. Fair use policy is just that, a policy, not a law. And since they are clamping down hard now in the uk like RIAA did in America, i thought it only fair to mention, imho this site is breaking the law by allowing links to any trademarked media, Longhorn or ringtone.

This is how it should be done:

http://www.retroringtones.co.uk/licensing.php

And the price should be stated as FREE. Otherwise such linked to material should be treated as illegal rom images, however long.

For imaged media, you would need to seek permission of the trademark holder before corrupting the use of their trademark for any purpose, including homescreens - to ignore such a step is to invite legal problems since you may be creating a product linked to a trademark which then in some way represents the original trademarked product; which in every respect here is not the case.

In the past many companies have given way to this leading to the misconception that this trademark defacement is ok, now such companies are clamping down hard, even fan based websites are being hit - last years Harry Potter websites scandal for example, that was all over the papers.... and the problem they had with these fansites ? ....... they used the logo without permission. THATS IT ! THATS ALL - yeah, thats all.....

Anyway, this is merely informational for my part, whatever view you hold dear to, let it save you from a cease and decist letter in the first instance. Having been through it myself over a domain name that wasnt even the same spelling...... but phoneticly was the same word, I can assure you, they mean business. And when they catch up with you (and they will if you sign your work) - its anything but pretty flowers for a few months.

Laxity is their friend, dont let it be your enemy. But thats my 2cents.. make of it what you will, im not going to argue a point, you take it, or you leave it, its your life... not mine.... just a caveat really. How the operators of MoDaCo deal with it is upto them, but remember ... you signed an agreement as did we all when we agee to post in these boards.... adaptation, improvisation and interpretation of those rules is a purely personal affair.

[Guest Brody]

If this really is an issue then its one for Paul, the owner of this forum...

[Guest plog]

I agree.

[Guest midnight]

seeing as how MS know about htese homescreens, and have actually used them in presentations (ive seen one using the Longhorn homescreen) i dont see it as a problem, do you? especially when its an MS branded phone, in fact, its free publicity for them, why should they care? Paul is in contact with MS every day, if they asked him to remove images/homescreens, anything of that nature that they do not wish to be used, then he will oblige, that simple.

now i know you have this big issue about roms, but Copyrighted Roms ARE illegal unless you have permission to use them, no question. trying to prevent someone from advertising your product for free is, to be quite honest, silly

if someone made a good Eclipse homescreen would i care? of course not, if someone was copying and spreading the game would I care? too damn right i would

[Guest plog]

interesting...... thanks, i think i have a pretty good grip on the do's and dont's now. thanks for your time :)