Guest leehawke Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 hi. i hv the SPVx/Tanager... 1- how do u key in the / slash char? i've tried all keys in 123/abc/T9/t9 modes and cant find it. 2- also what does the G icon at the center top of the today screen mean?seems like the same with the GPRS icon that shows when its trying to connect but I am unable to place a call thus far. im not in UK but i've followed some of the setting provided here and it doesnt work. can someone provide a step-by-step GPRS setup link? thx! 3- how do i check the avail memory for the phone and SD card?
Guest PsychoDave Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 Hi Lee, Welcome to the board :lol: 1. Hold down the hash # key to open the list of characters. 2. This means you are in a GPRS enabled transmitter zone. It doesn't mean your settings are correct tho ;) 3. If your phone is decerted then get task manager to check available space if you havn;t decerted yet go to settings>about and that should let you know. Anyways any more help give me a shout 8) Take it easy
Guest leehawke Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 hi PD thx for the quick reply for 1 and 3. ok now. but i still cant get it right for GPRS. sigh. my usual forum at mypdacafe.com cant help much cos im probably the first SPV/SPVx user here in malaysia :lol:
Guest PsychoDave Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 Hello Again. As far as I know the settings for Malaysia haven't been covered there but you could try posting in this thread Here They might not have your settings but they might know someone who does. :? S' worth a try anyway, we've got some smart guys on here, myself not included, they seem to be able to help with most things. Good luck mate 8)
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 You're probably best off calling your serice provider to check you have a GRPS enabled SIM card and to confim the settings. If you have any difficulties configuring it with them then we can give you a hand :lol:
Guest leehawke Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 yes i did call yesterday. my gprs has been enabled long ago and i hv tested it with a N8310 so it works. however, they do not currently hv the settings for the SPV and thus im at a dead end after trying many configs in many threads in 2 forums :lol: http://202.75.132.12/wapguide/gprs_phone_n...ne=351065108310 if anyone can adapt the settings from current phones to the SPV for my provider, it wld be much appreciated ;)
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 OK, i've no idea what you've tried to date, but here's what i'd do based on the settings on that site :lol: Settings > Data Connections > Menu > Edit connections > Menu > Add Description: GPRS etc Connects to: The Internet (or maybe WAP network? Try both...) Access point: 202.75.133.049 Username: maxis Password: wap Pri/Sec DNS: blank/0.0.0.0 IP: blank (Presumably your provider DHCP's your IP like Orange do.) Then save and done. Let us know how you get on ;)
Guest leehawke Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 thx mono our IP is suppose to be 202.75.133.49 while the AP is "net". anyway i've tried ur settings and swapped "The Internet" and "WAP network" for both GPRS Connections and in PIE Options but it doesnt work. quite frustrating :evil:
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 Ah righ i see, i'd be interested to know how your provider gets more than one device connected to GPRS when they are all using the same IP though.... Those settings are for accessing WAP over GPRS, have you tried directly visiting any wap sites?
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 Has the "connect to the Internet" and "AP : Net" and "IP:blank" setting combination specifically been tried?
Guest leehawke Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 i've tried mobile.mypdacafe.com which if im not mistaken is a wap site. i wonder too abt the identical IP being used by everyone :lol: and yes i hv tried using AP: net and IP: blank could it be that the SPV isnt supported by my telco yet?
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 27, 2003 Report Posted March 27, 2003 the SPV should be able to connect without your Telco changing anything... if it works for the Nokia. I've looked at that site you quote, and I'd have guessed the settings you say don't work. Have you tried forcing the phone to use this connection, rather than leaving it on automatic? In both Internet Connection and Wap Connection?
Guest leehawke Posted March 28, 2003 Report Posted March 28, 2003 for internet connection i chose 'maxis gprs' and in PIE options its set to 'the internet'. unable to place call. i even created another 'maxis wap' with various settings from other threads here. still doesnt work for both PIE and MSN. weird. i think i've tried dozens of settings and combos and im outta ideas :lol: basically would i need to set up both gprs and wap? both connects to the internet and in PIE use internet?
Guest martin Posted March 28, 2003 Report Posted March 28, 2003 The large G in the top centre of the phone means you have successfully completed a GPRS (IMSI) attach to the SGSN (serving GPRS node) and that a logical channel has been setup between the mobile station and the SGSN. If GPRS had not been activated in your subscriber record by the network operator then the SGSN would not be able to retrieve the GPRS information needed and the G will not show on your phone. (put a non GPRS sim in your phone and see what happens) The small G in the top right is active during PDP context activation. This is a connection from the serving GPRS node to the gateway GPRS node and external networks and it is this PDP context (or service) that most people refer to when discussing connections & disconnections of GPRS. These allowed services must also be created in your subscriber record and this information is passed to the SGSN during GPRS attach and each are shown as subscribed PDP. The orange APN's for these PDP contexts are shown in the phones Data connections. GPRS connections Orange GPRS, Connects to: The Internet Access point : orangeinternet Orange MMS Connects to : Orange MMS Acess point : orangemms Orange WAP connects to : The internet Access point : orangewap You say GPRS already works on the N8310 with the SIM. What services. Confirm with the network provider the APNs for above GPRS services and also confirm that these PDP contexts have been created in your network account otherwise the SGSN won't allow them.
Guest martin Posted March 29, 2003 Report Posted March 29, 2003 It seems to be WAP over GPRS only for the Maxi network ? (I not sure if other GPRS services are available yet) Still, I would try this for access to WAP sites. Data connections / edit connections / GPRS connections Menu - add Description: Maxis WAP Connects to: The Internet Access point: net User Name: maxis Password: wap Data connections Internet connection = maxis Internet explorer menu / options / connections select network = The Internet You may still have to check with the network privider that the net service has been created in your account ? should be OK though
Guest martin Posted March 29, 2003 Report Posted March 29, 2003 Or try this (if you are still there ?) Description: Maxis GPRS Connects to: The Internet Access point: internet.gprs.maxis User Name: Password:
Guest leehawke Posted March 30, 2003 Report Posted March 30, 2003 It seems to be WAP over GPRS only for the Maxi network ? (I not sure if other GPRS services are available yet) Still, I would try this for access to WAP sites. Data connections / edit connections / GPRS connections Menu - add Description: Maxis WAP Connects to: The Internet Access point: net User Name: maxis Password: wap Data connections  Internet connection = maxis Internet explorer menu / options / connections select network = The Internet You may still have to check with the network privider that the net service has been created in your account ?  should be OK though thx for the tips martin, but i've tried this before.
Guest leehawke Posted March 30, 2003 Report Posted March 30, 2003 Or try this  (if you are still there ?) Description: Maxis GPRS Connects to: The Internet  Access point: internet.gprs.maxis User Name:  Password: yup still here. this suggestion is unusual. just tried it. "unable to connect"
Guest martin Posted March 30, 2003 Report Posted March 30, 2003 I suspect you don't have full internet access over GPRS (service: internet.gprs.maxis) ? I believe you may just have WAP over GPRS (service:net). Is this what you were getting on your other phone ? Remember that WAP was designed to run @ 9.6K and is limited. i.e the orange GPRS services are orangemms, orangewap and orangeinternet which are ALL given to the subscriber on purchase of an SPV. What to do is create the following GPRS connections on you phone. Maxis GPRS, The Internet, internet.gprs.maxis Maxis WAP, The Internet, net, maxis, wap Then set your data connections Internet connection = Maxis GPRS WAP connection = Maxis WAP In internet explorer - menu/options/connections Select Network= WAP network For WAP compatible internet sites (using WAP over GPRS). Create favourite site: http://wap.maxi.com.my/wml/index.wml (this should work the same as your other phone) Select Network = The internet Full internet access (non WAP sites), data transfer at 30-40k possible You may have to request this particular GPRS service from you network ? Note: If customer services happen to tell you that GPRS has been activated on your account then this only tells you that you are cleared to access the GPRS network ie. the phone will complete a GPRS attach to your serving GPRS node. To successfully transmit and receive data for a particular service then you must have that subscribed service created for you by your network provider (probably known to them as PDP contexts). If you originally had GPRS activated for a GPRS WAP only phone then you may not have GPRS MMS or GPRS internet created in your account yet ?
Guest leehawke Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 thx martin for ur efforts :lol: i think we only hv wap over gprs too (will chk) but i do get the G icon at the top of the phone at the home screen. so does that mean full internet GPRS? also, if GPRS WAP worked on the N8310, how come it doesnt work on the SPV?
Guest leehawke Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 tried ur suggestions (rmbr using those settings b4). same 'unable to call'
Guest martin Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 The GPRS (packet switched) and GSM (circuit switched) networks can be seen as two completely seperate networks with seperate control and data processing but which happen to share common transmission resource. GPRS was designed to utilise some of the existing mobile network architecture for its transission between network elements. Hence the phone can be attached to both networks at the same time but you cannot ACTIVELY transmit and receieve data on both networks at the same time. You phone will either decode packet switched or circuit switched data and will swap between the two, theoretically. I believe Class A phones would be able to do it. (SPV is class :lol:. When the small G is active in top right then you have an active PDP context which is a connection between your serving GPRS node and a service (internet, WAP, MMS) and it is at this point that you will be allowed to transmit and receieve data to whichever service you have requested. When you have finished with the existing service you should really close the session by pressing end-call (red button) which will close the PDP context and make the small G dissapear on your phone. You could automatically close the PDP context after the completion of each transmit or receive by setting the idle disconnect time to none (bit of a pain though if you would want to surf many pages). When you switch the phone on and see the network providers name on your phone then you have attached yourself to their GSM network and you've passed the many checks and setups needed to allow access, the centre G on your phone shows that you have done the same for the GPRS network (GPRS has been activated for you). Just because you have successfully attached yourself to the GSM network it can't be assumed that you have access to all its services and the same applies for the GPRS network. You service provider must make sure that you have been given access to these services (Internet,WAP,MMS) by ensuring they are also created in your account. It does not mean all service connection problems are due to non activation of these services, it is probably only worth checking if you have NEVER had a successful connection before. There could be many reasons for failure of these PDP activations, including network problems. You should definately be able to get WAP over GPRS though. Make sure in Data connections that WAP connection=Maxis WAP and that Maxis WAP has the correct parameters in GPRS connections. (leave both DNS at 0.0.0.0) Are you sure that you tried to connect to (http://wap.maxi.com.my/wml/index.wml (WAP site) as non WAP sites will fail. I got this WAP address off the maxis site and assume it's still valid. (also in IE, dont tick 'automatically detect settings' for Select Network=WAP network or you'll get page not found). Might be worth confirming the WAP settings by checking your other phone. Does it state net,maxis,wap in its setup? also confirm the maxis WAP home address. P.S. WAP is pretty good in IE.. I like it.
Guest martin Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 Remember that you can change IE back to Select Network=The Internet when you want to use the Maxi GPRS settings (service: internet.gprs.maxis) for non WAP sites. This will help if you are chasing up the network provider for full internet acess. I think you may need Internet browsing activated on you account ? http://202.75.132.12/wapguide/faqs-grpscsd...sd.asp?ques=q16
Guest leehawke Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 thx. i'll call and chk abt gprs internet. but wap still doesnt work yet it works on the 8310. too bad i cant get my hands on a p800 or similar and test gprs internet.
Guest otacon Posted October 25, 2004 Report Posted October 25, 2004 Hmm... I am from Malaysia too, and I am having this same problem... I do get the G on the top of the screen, and when I try to connect, the small G appears over the signal bars... but still can't connect. Any extra help?
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