Guest Paul [MVP] Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 It's interesting, but one of the most frequent things I get asked by Private Message on MoDaCo is why we don't support non Phone enabled Pocket PCs on MoDaCo. The honest answer I guess is that we have evolved from a Smartphone forum into something that also supports Pocket PC Phone Edition devices... but as I think at the moment about improving our Pocket PC support to be up to the standard of our Smartphone areas, I wonder if to realise our true ambition of truly supporting 'Windows Mobilised', we should also open our arms to conventional Pocket PC owners. I'm not 100% dedicated yet, so i've attached a poll to this topic... tell me what you think :o P
Guest Lord Kordir Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 As long as it's just Windows Mobile based stuff it's not too much of a deviation
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 Yep as it's all the same OS at the end of the day :o Just have to have a careful think about how the sections would work.
Guest kyrkesmith Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 Absolutely. There's nothing about the Pocket PC OS that's not included in Pocket PC Phone Edition, so I don't see why Pocket PC should be excluded from MoDaCo. Perhaps just having user specific areas for brand, e.g. HP iPaq, Dell Axim etc.? You'd end up with a ridiculous number of forums if you went the way of Dave's iPaq but for every manufacturer! With Pocket PC there seems to be less straight rebranding of the same device by manufacturers as there is with Phone Edition and Smartphone.
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 Yeah, forums by brand seems is our current thinking atm... P
Guest chucky.egg Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 The forum list is going to get kinda busy though... I know I harp on about this all the time, but I would consider an enhanced RSS feed, and "mobile" versions of the site as even more important if there are going to be more forums. I'm not bothered either way - if anything (as a new M500 user) more PPC users here can only help me with my PPCPE issues. I can't think of any reason to exclude them - unless there are other existing PPC forums with good membership.
Guest www.msmobiles.com Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 tell me what you think :o Absolutely Modaco should cover all topics that are Windows Mobile oriented, also about non-phone Pocket PCs. For example: in case of msmobiles.com the focus is on 3 topics only: mobile phones, mobile phones and mobile phones ... and things that are not phone speicfic are rare, but it would be bad practice to take example from msmobiles, that is by defintion fanatical about mobile phones.... for reasons that I I dare not reveal here... Anyway, if you need additional argument to start covering all Windows Mobile things: nowadays any Pocket PC can have or already has Wi-Fi. And with Wi-Fi and Skype it becomes phone. So by covering non-phone Pocket PCs you would cover also phones. Conclusion: yeah, go for it! Go for it big time! BTW. I wish Modaco could be stronger also USA-wise... maybe Modaco USA staff is needed? Dunno. I feel it could be good. Anyway: this is another fairytale...
Guest dazza12 Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 I can't think of any reason to exclude them - unless there are other existing PPC forums with good membership. There's always PDAForum, but membership seems a bit limited to one person at the moment! Always nice to get the opportunity to plug one's own site! :o I don't mind what happens to MoDaCo, but it's important to keep the focus of the site. However with the recent addition of other sections such as PSP etc, it's a logical progression to start supporting other PDAs.
Guest max1956bikes Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 i voted dont mind but thinking again surely they have own sites.but then perhaps we can share ideas.so lets go for it.
Guest inspectorgadjet Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 If not, why not. Everything Pocket PCs can do, Pocket PC Phones can do and more.
Guest nickcornaglia Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 Do they even still make PPCs without integrated phones??? I dont see the point! :o
Guest dolphinsmile Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 Then you’ll have to start supporting the new breed of ultra portable xp machines. E.g.: http://www.oqo.com/ Which would be a good thing.
Guest manocheese Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 I use my E200 and iPaq together all the time, here would be a great place to learn more about using them together. It seems to me that a lot of smartphone enthusiasts also have PDAs.
Guest peekie Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 modaco uses windows mobilised as the logo now so i think the ppc will fit in well , both use the same games and apps as eachother plus it would complete the ppc side , i have a ppc as well as the ppc phones and spv's , i use it for tomtom and it spends most of the time in the car , the only difference between them both is one has a built in gsm phone the other has built in gps for tomtom , bothhave the same software installed in them as well :o
Guest pierre Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 Yeah, forums by brand seems is our current thinking atm... P <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Would that be necessary? I thought just one section with non GSM Pocket PCs would do. It would be interesting to introduce such a section, as most of other forums do not distinct GSM / non GSM devices, or they distinct each brand, which creates huge lists where things become impossible to find.
Guest TigerNet Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 (edited) ...I would have thought the PSP was further away than Windows Mobile PDAs...so I would say yes, support them... Cheers Nick Edited September 5, 2005 by TigerNet
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 Yes, but as already covered, the PSP AREA IS CLASSED AS OFF TOPIC! P
Guest TigerNet Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 (edited) ...oops, sorry...no need to shout though...I've been away for a couple of weeks and am still getting back into the swing of things!!! Cheers Nick Edited September 5, 2005 by TigerNet
Guest Confucious Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 I voted no. MoDaCo has become very successful because it is the one place to go for SmartPhone advice, there is no competition which(although normally a bad thing) is, in this case good. The sum of all knowledge is here. I know that if I can't find an answer to a problem here then it probably isn't known! There are already other PPC forums and when you get others you have to search around for information (I'm a lazy bugger I'd rather have it all in one place) which means that MoDaCo will no longer be a definitive source and risks becoming just one of many forums. Jack of all trades? I think MoDaCo should concentrate on what it does exceedingly well and not risk diluting its focus. Judging by the result of the poll so far though I seem to be in a minority! Just my 2d's worth
Guest muff Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 my only comment would be that the PPC and PPC PE sections should be tightly linked so as to avoid unnecessary duplication after all, most apps / software that work on one will work on the other (unless they are using phone specific functions obviously)
Guest TrippinBilly Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 If it's a Microsoft based OS, it's mobile, and it's connected (e.g. GPRS, WiFi, etc.) why not cover it? I've actually migrated away from my Smartphone to a PPC phone (imate Jam) because I realized that I was using the phone more as a PDA than as a phone, and the Jam fit my needs better: especially since it's smaller than normal PDAs. Won't say that I'll never go back to a Smartphone though. As often as I change phones, I'll probably end up getting another one in another 6 to 12 months... :?:
Guest zyprexaa Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 I personally like that fact that MoDaCo is primarly a smartphone dedicated site. Almost every entry I've read is relevant to my interests which are windows powered phones. I'm not too interested in non-phone windows devices and feel that adding entries and including topics that are non-phone related would "dither" the experience. Just my 2 cents.
Guest nickcornaglia Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 (edited) EDIT: Doh! Wrong thread!!!!! Edited September 5, 2005 by nickcornaglia
Guest Pondrew Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 EDIT: Doh! Wrong thread!!!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ha ha :o
Guest Arktouros Posted September 5, 2005 Report Posted September 5, 2005 I voted no. MoDaCo has become very successful because it is the one place to go for SmartPhone advice, there is no competition which(although normally a bad thing) is, in this case good. The sum of all knowledge is here. I know that if I can't find an answer to a problem here then it probably isn't known! There are already other PPC forums and when you get others you have to search around for information (I'm a lazy bugger I'd rather have it all in one place) which means that MoDaCo will no longer be a definitive source and risks becoming just one of many forums. Jack of all trades? I think that what will probably happen is that more users will come with different main purpose. So the Smartphone part will remain as dynamic as it is for the moment and extra users will come for the pdas. :shock: And hopefully will all get to mingle a bit and share extra points of views. :roll: In any case some PDAs and some Smartphone are almost the same or are merging... :o Cheers
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