new fuel blockades

[Guest chrisbpr]

not related to any things techno atall....but it looks like we may be in for another round of fuel blockades....fill up people !

[Guest chrisbpr]

just filled up at tescos & the girl behind the counter said that the people that supply them with fuel have already sent them a load of 1's in prep for the £1 a leiter....

[Guest mike-oh]

I've just filled up, and i'm coasting most places (naughty me!). I'm aiming for 400+ miles from this tank :o

My parents work for the police and NHS so either way i should still be able to get fuel :( .....even if it is £1 a litre

oh and nice avtar....wherever did you get it from!?

Edited September 12, 2005 by mike-oh

[Guest stern]

I've just filled up, and i'm coasting most places (naughty me!). I'm aiming for 400+ miles from this tank :o

My parents work for the police and NHS so either way i should still be able to get fuel :( .....even if it is £1 a litre

oh and nice avtar....wherever did you get it from!?

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coasting uses more petrol! :lol:

[Guest SteveG02]

just filled up at tescos & the girl behind the counter said that the people that supply them with fuel have already sent them a load of 1's in prep for the £1 a leiter....

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Tesco supply themselves with fuel, so she told u they sent themselves a load of 1's, bless her :o

[Guest Hax]

Tesco supply themselves with fuel, so she told u they sent themselves a load of 1's, bless her  :o

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AFAIK, Tesco themselves don't have any oil refineries and they buy their fuel from one of the major players. Just because it arrives in tankers with "Tesco" written down the side doesn't mean that they drilled, pumped and then refined the oil themselves...

Likewise, just because the milk "bottle" has "Tesco" written on it doesn't mean that they own several large dairy farms

[Guest ricardo the fish]

I am pretty sure Tesco still gets it's fuel from Esso. Although you will not find any Esso branding anywhere due to the Stop Esso protests etc.

[Guest Tech]

i hope we get a bigger protest like we did last time 2 years ago or maybe more than that....

I dont drive myself but my parents do etc... and we arent "rich" ppl... who is? i mean sure, they are on benifits but will the benefits increase to help pay for the fuel rises? NO!

wish they would take the tax down on fuel... find another source of fuel!

[Guest Samsonite]

these fuel blockades are ridiculous. If the government shaved a whole 5% off the tax, that shaving would disappear in about ooo, 2 weeks and we'd be back at this point again. I know we pay alot in tax for our fuel and yes, it would be lovely to pay less but lets get real for moment... IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!!! the only effect from the last set of blockade action was for Gordon Brown to freeze the increases... nice, but big deal! he is not gonna fold up and see the error in his ways and lop 30p a litre from fuel duty now is he!?!?!

The whole point of these blockades (that havent actually happened yet) is to panic the public who buy petrol en masse and the lorries cant get to the forecourts quick enough!! we have reports here in Southampton of 20 and 30 car queues at various stations with some reporting they are out of unleaded.

If everyone calmed down and carried on as normal, there would be minimal hassle. Its all the sheep who are panicking and thinking they need to fill up today or they will die lonely and fuel-less...muppets.

[Guest Tech]

so your happy about the increases that will always increase? :o

[Guest Disco Stu]

If petrol taxes are too high, why is there so much traffic congestion ?

[Guest Samsonite]

so your happy about the increases that will always increase? :o

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no thas not what i am saying.... Its the age old problem, the only sure thing in life is Death (!) and taxes. Petrol/Diesel duty is disproportionately high compared to other commodoties but is much more volatile in terms of raw product pricing. If the crude price rises, so does the price of gasoline, tax or no tax.

Fuel tax is here to stay. Re assessing the tax structure is not the way to short term fix a difficult situation - it sets a very dangerous precedent.

The world WILL run out of oil. Just when is a subject of great debate.... if China continues at the rate, if the US doesnt slow down, if this, if that ra ra ra......We need alternative fuel.

Even tho i am personally hit with fuel prices spiralling, i am very aware that the situation will have to go into meltdown before a proper resolution is implemented - not a nice prospect but inevitable nonetheless!!

I get real angry at the prospect of sitting behind a grumpy lorry driver who thinks his action is gonna do anything other than cause traffic chaos and everyone in it achieving less than half their usual mpg rate!! kinda counter productive if you ask me!! and as for the queues of idiots waiting like fools at the local Texaco... pass me the shotgun, dear... its muppet season!!

[Guest Hax]

The only effect the fuel blockades had for me last time was to force me to worry about how I was going to get back and fore to work once my tank of petrol had emptied. And, I can tell you that it wasn't a nice prospect either as it turned a 26 mile, 35 minute journey costing me about £5 per day in petrol, into an hour and a half of public-transport hell costing me about £11 a day - £6 for train fare and £5 for bus fares.

Yeah sure, petrol prices are going up and they will always go up. But currently, for me, they're cheaper than the cost of public transport. Although, that said, I now have a 45 mile journey to work and the train stations are now within walking distance so my current petrol costs (about £9 per day) is only slightly less than the cost of the train ticket (about £10.50 per day). So, by the time car servicing, etc is factored in, train prices are looking pretty attractive. Just a shame that my journey time would increase from about 50 to 60 minutes each way to around an hour and 45 minutes each way - including the walking to/from the train stations either side! Mind you - I'd be a hell of a lot "fitter" ¬_¬

I'm just hoping now that any petrol "shortages" in Southampton will have gone away by the time I need to fill up - probably around Thursday I would estimate - otherwise that's my "home" life screwed...

/me crosses his fingers

[Guest mike-oh]

coasting uses more petrol!  :o

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eh?! How do you work that out?

Doing 60 with the engine revving at 3-4000rpm or doing 60 revving at 1000rpm? :-k

And how would that explain how i've done 100miles on only 1/4 tank?

Edited September 12, 2005 by mike-oh

[Guest Hax]

When you coast, you lose speed. So, you'll be spending your whole time accelerating up to 60 via the throttle and then decelerating when coasting. It's only more fuel efficient when you're actually changing from say a 60mph area to a 30mph area - then, coasting well before your would normally start to brake would save you a few pennies. In general use, it's not so good.

As for 100 miles on 1/4 tank - that's what I get out of my car - well, I do when I'm driving it in a more fuel friendly way - as opposed to hammering it down the motorways - it's amazing what a 10 to 15 mph drop in speed can do to your fuel economy!

[Guest stern]

When you coast, you lose speed.  So, you'll be spending your whole time accelerating up to 60 via the throttle and then decelerating when coasting.  It's only more fuel efficient when you're actually changing from say a 60mph area to a 30mph area - then, coasting well before your would normally start to brake would save you a few pennies.  In general use, it's not so good.

As for 100 miles on 1/4 tank - that's what I get out of my car - well, I do when I'm driving it in a more fuel friendly way - as opposed to hammering it down the motorways - it's amazing what a 10 to 15 mph drop in speed can do to your fuel economy!

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Jeremy Clarskon proved it in an A6 TDI on a round trip to Scotland, he gave lots of tips for saving fuel I remeber he explained how coasting is less efficiant. I'm sorry but I can't remember the mechanics behind it all but it did make sense.

I have tried not to coast since hearing, as it's a bad habit as well as bad for fuel efficancy

[Guest mike-oh]

When you coast, you lose speed.  So, you'll be spending your whole time accelerating up to 60 via the throttle and then decelerating when coasting.  It's only more fuel efficient when you're actually changing from say a 60mph area to a 30mph area - then, coasting well before your would normally start to brake would save you a few pennies.  In general use, it's not so good.

As for 100 miles on 1/4 tank - that's what I get out of my car - well, I do when I'm driving it in a more fuel friendly way - as opposed to hammering it down the motorways - it's amazing what a 10 to 15 mph drop in speed can do to your fuel economy!

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hmmm, perhaps i oughta mention that that's doing 60mph down hill. I'm not doing the "squirt and coast" method. When i coast, i pick up speed or i'm coasting to a stop :o

[Guest w411y]

... find another source of fuel!

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Im pretty sure they made a car that ran off water .. ecept the guy who bought the rights to it was an owner of a couple of oil refineries.. so that's not going to be in production any time soon!!

[Guest mike-oh]

Your either getting confused by the fuel cell which produces water after combining hydrogen from its fuel tank and oxygen in the air whilst generating an electric current...or the guys that claimed to have achieved cold fusion and were powering their cars on what looked like fizzy water and was poopooed by the scientific community.

[Guest arman68]

it's amazing what a 10 to 15 mph drop in speed can do to your fuel economy!

That's very true.

However I completely disagree that coasting uses more petrol: I have a computer on my car that shows fuel consumption based on the last 10mins.

Under normal driving conditions, I get 33 miles per gallon on average.

When coasting, I get between 55 and 86 miles per gallon depending on the kind of road.

Of course you have to coast intelligently, and not keep speeding up the car before letting it slow. Plus one very important safety point: always stay in gear, in the correct gear according to your speed, and use your foot only to coast. That will enable you to quickly regain control of the vehicle in case of an emergency.

[Guest max1956bikes]

an even better idea my get to work vehcle and genrally getting around.does 110 mpg 70 mph top speed £15 road tax cost £2000 new never gets stuck in traffic.park nearly anywere no cost.its a honda 125 scooter ok i get a bit wet when raining if i forget over trousers.