e200 plugin help

[Guest Jamma14]

Okay a few questions about this plugin, I don't know how you guys do it, there's no documentation on how to use it!

Okay answering any of these would be good:

1. I want two different RJ shortcut plugins next to each other as shown (don't say use one I need them like this as I'm going to have lots more plugins too). It is going to look like a tab style (Dr Blow-esque ;) ). Anyway, can you use RJ shortcuts within the e200 plugin, and if so what am I doing wrong? When I move right to select the next one it just pushes all the plugins out of line a bit instead of moving on, and is still selecting the first shortcut. Is this because pressing right is detected by RJ Shortcut and not the e200 plugin...if that's so how can I override it?

2. Can you include plugins that move left and right eg. MRU within it and at the end of them ie. furthest right it will go on to the next plugin in the e200 one?

3. In in the e200 plugin can you get it to not display an icon, ie if you want it to just change the look by showing a different bgimage and some text. If you leave out the "imagesource" tag and the "icon" and "chicon" ones then a question mark is shown.

If anyone can understand what I mean a little help would be greatly appreciated..

<!-- row1 col1: Shortcut-->

  <shortcut width="100%" height="146" >

  <plugin clsid="{F3750050-8E30-4c61-A864-4301F5D7C065}" height="146" width="240">	

  <background>

 	 <format state="selected" valign="bottom" halign="left" bgcolor="transparent" bgimage="\Storage\Application Data\Home\bottom1.gif"/>

 	 <format state="unselected" valign="bottom" halign="left" bgcolor="transparent" bgimage="\Storage\Application Data\Home\bottom0.gif"/>

  </background>

  <shortcutbar hide ="yes" icon-spacing="0" icon-size="small" x="240" y="0" >

  <shortcut target="/Windows/Task Manager.lnk" />

  </shortcutbar>

  <appname  y="84" x="3" w="0" font-size="10" font-weight="normal" fgcolor="#FFFFFF"> 

  <format state="selected" font-weight="normal" w="240" fgcolor="#FFFFFF"/> 

  </appname>

  </plugin>

  </shortcut>	


  <!-- row1 col2: Shortcut-->

  <shortcut width="100%" height="146" >

  <plugin clsid="{F3750050-8E30-4c61-A864-4301F5D7C065}" height="146" width="240">	

  <background>

 	 <format state="selected" valign="bottom" halign="left" bgcolor="transparent" bgimage="\Storage\Application Data\Home\bottom2.gif"/>

 	 <format state="unselected" valign="bottom" halign="left" bgcolor="transparent" bgimage="\Storage\Application Data\Home\bottom0.gif"/>

  </background>

  <shortcutbar hide ="yes" icon-spacing="0" icon-size="small" x="240" y="0" >

  <shortcut target="/Storage/Windows/Start Menu/Accessories/Orneta Notepad.lnk" />

  </shortcutbar>

  <appname  y="84" x="30" w="0" font-size="10" font-weight="normal" fgcolor="#FFFFFF"> 

  <format state="selected" font-weight="normal" w="240" fgcolor="#FFFFFF"/> 

  </appname>

  </plugin>

  </shortcut>

Edited October 16, 2005 by Jamma14

[Guest Jamma14]

Okay, I'll simplfy my question...could someone give an example of xml code that can have 2 shortcuts in a row (using e200 plugin or RJ shorts embedded in it etc) that are hidden or just show the appname, but where the bgimage of the plugin changes when you move to each one.

IE. Need a line of shortcuts horizontally, where a large portion of the screen changes with each shortcut and they have no icon....anyone?? ;)

Edited October 18, 2005 by Jamma14

[Guest drblow]

ok, just a quicky from my phone! you cannot put rjshortcut inside the e200 plugin. dunno why, ask rj! but you can create your own shortcuts. look at my old silvertabs screen. you might also be able to mix that with full background images used for each seperate plugins. look at my panther or GV screens for that. the icons are defined by the image part in the xml. icon is the unselected state, chicon is the selected state. read the how to document in my cobalt screen.

ow, my thumbs! :-P ask me more after you try that stuff! ;-)

Okay, I'll simplfy my question...could someone give an example of xml code that can have 2 shortcuts in a row (using e200 plugin or RJ shorts embedded in it etc) that are hidden or just show the appname, but where the bgimage of the plugin changes when you move to each one.

IE. Need a line of shortcuts horizontally, where a large portion of the screen changes with each shortcut and they have no icon....anyone?? ;)

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[Guest Jamma14]

ok, just a quicky from my phone! you cannot put rjshortcut inside the e200 plugin. dunno why, ask rj! but you can create your own shortcuts. look at my old silvertabs screen.  you might also be able to mix that with full background images used for each seperate plugins. look at my panther or GV screens for that. the icons are defined by the image part in the xml. icon is the unselected state, chicon is the selected state. read the how to document in my cobalt screen.

ow, my thumbs! :-P ask me more after you try that stuff! ;-)

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Cool, I'd lookad at Panther, GV, Mac and Silvertabs but guess I missed Cobalt which had the tut in. Cheers tis very useful! Hopefully my new 550 screen should be done soon now! I'll reply in here if I need any more help. Cheers Doc. ;)

EDIT:

1. O also, does embedding facade or the MRU plugin work?

2. And..what is the diffrence between handlekeys "FOCUS" and "CHILD"

3. Does anyone know the Window names for Album or Smart Explorer? (Can't get remote spy to connect to my device).

4. Why does this code not work???? Only the first shortcut works.. Can you not use the orange plugin within the plugin twice?? But i want to use different bgimages so I have to about 7 times...

...snip

  <!-- row1 col2: Shortcut (Orneta Notepad/Orneta Notepad) -->

  <shortcut width="100%" height="146">

  	<plugin valign="bottom" height="146" width="100%" handlekeys="FOCUS" clsid="{A2536C57-6AC2-4c31-9542-B144B0E9D077}">

  	<background b-border-width="0" bgcolor="transparent">

  	<format state="selected" font-weight="bold" font-size="12" fgcolor="#000000" padding-left="0" padding-right="0" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" bgtext="transparent" bgimage="\Storage\Application Data\Home\bottom2.bmp" />

  	<format state="unselected" font-weight="bold" font-size="12" fgcolor="#888888" padding-left="0" padding-right="0" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" bgtext="transparent" />

  	<format font-weight="bold" padding-left="0" padding-right="0"/>

  	</background>

    <shortcut icon="-2" width="240" action="\Storage Card\Windows\OrnetaNotepad2003.exe">

    </shortcut>

  	</plugin>

  </shortcut> 


  <!-- row1 col3: Shortcut (Calendar/Calendar) -->

  <shortcut width="100%" height="146">

  	<plugin valign="bottom" height="146" width="100%" handlekeys="FOCUS" clsid="{A2536C57-6AC2-4c31-9542-B144B0E9D077}">

  	<background b-border-width="0" bgcolor="transparent">

  	<format state="selected" font-weight="bold" font-size="12" fgcolor="#000000" padding-left="0" padding-right="0" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" bgtext="transparent" bgimage="\Storage\Application Data\Home\bottom3.bmp" />

  	<format state="unselected" font-weight="bold" font-size="12" fgcolor="#888888" padding-left="0" padding-right="0" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" bgtext="transparent" />

  	<format font-weight="bold" padding-left="0" padding-right="0"/>

  	</background>

    <shortcut icon="-2" width="240" action="\Storage Card\Windows\OrnetaNotepad2003.exe">

    </shortcut>

  	</plugin>

  </shortcut> 

...snip

Edited October 20, 2005 by Jamma14

[Guest Jamma14]

*BUMP*

Can no-one help me?

Dr Blow? Anyone else?

[Guest drblow]

Sorry,I missed that post!

OK, ...

1) I don't think so, there's plenty of 3rd paty plugins that don't work inside the O plugin

2) FOCUS is designed to allow keyclicks to be emulated see the document in the cobalt theme) CHILD is used for simply embedding another plugin. You shouldn't worry about them, I never did!! :D

3) dunno

4) dunno - that should work. You can make shortcuts beside each other within the same plugin (see the silvertabs screen), but if you just want one icon below the other then I am not sure why that won't work.

Hope thats a bot of help. Lemme know if you need anything else! ;) I'm glad to see somebody else trying to use interesting things in homescreens, rather that another ruttensoft background with a few plugins on it.

[Guest Jamma14]

Ok sorry I have tried but can't get it working! :D

I had wanted to finish it before showing it but I cannot do what I want.

I'm trying to create a c550 Mac theme with a working dock using the e200 plugin.

I want it to go:

Shortcut to Task Mgr

Shortcut to Notepad

Calendar plugin

Shortcut to WMP

Shortcut to Camera

Shortcut to Smart Explorer

Shortcut to Album with keys to make it go to into a slideshow

Shortcut to TCPMP

Each time, I need the background image to change.

At the moment it will not move further than Task Mgr. I think it's something to do with my heights, widths, handlekeys or plugin embedding.?? ;)

Doc, can you have a look at what I've done so far and get it to work? Just extract the rar into your home folder.

Note: Is definitely not finished, still need to change:

--bgimages to include names and calendar one to include "pop up box"

--change calendar plugin code (but haven't seen it yet so can't see what code I need to change)

--include sms plugin to be a pop up like missed calls

--finish other shortcut code

If you could get the first three working for me, and show me where and why I've gone wrong, then I would be very very greatful!

Mac.rar

[Guest drblow]

OK, I'm having a look! :D First off, nice graphics! ;)

Basically on my phone, nothing happens. I see the background image & time & smartmonitor plugins at the top, but the lower ones do not show - I assume that's what you get. You have an instance of the Orange plugin which I don't see any need for above the time plugin, so that may be interfering. It's hard to tell just by looking at the xml though. I would recommend just copying the code from one of my themes - the Panther screen uses alot of background images for the O plugin. If you copy bits of that, then you can just change heights, x/y & image names.

Also, did you realise that you are using the allday event plugin, not the calendar?

I am more than happy to help you get this together, but it's difficult for me if nothing is working at all to see where the problems may be. Have another look at it, copy the code form one of my themes if that will help - even if you can get a couple working it will let you see easier why others don't work.

Let me know how it goes. :D

[Guest Jamma14]

OK, I'm having a look!  :D First off, nice graphics!  :D

Basically on my phone, nothing happens.  I see the background image & time & smartmonitor plugins at the top, but the lower ones do not show - I assume that's what you get.  You have an instance of the Orange plugin which I don't see any need for above the time plugin, so that may be interfering.  It's hard to tell just by looking at the xml though.  I would recommend just copying the code from one of my themes - the Panther screen uses alot of background images for the O plugin.  If you copy bits of that, then you can just change heights, x/y & image names.

Also, did you realise that you are using the allday event plugin, not the calendar?

I am more than happy to help you get this together, but it's difficult for me if nothing is working at all to see where the problems may be.  Have another look at it, copy the code form one of my themes if that will help - even if you can get a couple working it will let you see easier why others don't work.

Let me know how it goes.  :D

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Yeah don't worry about the Orange plugin that has the carrier plugin embedded in it, doesn't need to be there, was just testing something out, but it doesn't make any difference.

O yeah and I realised I was using the allday one (code's not finished yet anyway was just testing).

Let me try and explain what I want better.

You are saying nothing happens - well try clicking the action button in - it goes to the task manager (your first shortcut) which is why the dock is raised in the first position.

Have a look at the images I've included and you'll see what I'm trying to do.

I've set icon="" to "-2" so that no icon is shown, each shortcut is not going to display anything using the plugin (icons, labels etc) all I want is the background image to change each time I move left and right to different shortcuts. (Look at bottom1.bmp, bottom2.bmp, bottom3.bmp).

I've looked at all your themes but there isn't any code I can copy that'll do that, but I can't see why it shouldn't be possible.

Any idea how it can be done?? ;)

PS. Sorry for all the questions!!!

[Guest drblow]

Don't worry abpout asking questions - as long as iyt's not stuff that's been asked a million times before then I'm more than happy to help. ;) & like I said, it's nice to see somone trying to do something interesting with a homescreen.

I looked at the images, & I think I can see what you are trying to do - 2 shirtcuts & calendar? If that is the case, I don't think I ever used bgimages for shortcuts - just icons. But what you can do is download an iconmaker app (I recommend anytoicon), download resgack (freeware) and then make your own icons that are 176 wide or whatever you want. You can see a combination of these effects in my Panther screen - I used icons for the internet explorer shortcut, as I never could get a bgimage to work.

Sometimes the O plugin behaves strangely with different width settings - again, have a look at the Panther screen or GV, coz it sounds like what you want to achieve is the same effect except at the bottom of the screen. Am I wrong? :D

Seriously though, I can't recommend enough that you copy the code from somewhere that does what you want, & then change the attributes to fit your own.

[Guest Jamma14]

Don't worry abpout asking questions - as long as iyt's not stuff that's been asked a million times before then I'm more than happy to help.  ;) & like I said, it's nice to see somone trying to do something interesting with a homescreen. 

I looked at the images, & I think I can see what you are trying to do - 2 shirtcuts & calendar?  If that is the case, I don't think I ever used bgimages for shortcuts - just icons. But what you can do is download an iconmaker app (I recommend anytoicon), download resgack (freeware) and then make your own icons that are 176 wide or whatever you want.  You can see a combination of these effects in my Panther screen - I used icons for the internet explorer shortcut, as I never could get a bgimage to work.

Sometimes the O plugin behaves strangely with different width settings - again, have a look at the Panther screen or GV, coz it sounds like what you want to achieve is the same effect except at the bottom of the screen.  Am I wrong?  :D

Seriously though, I can't recommend enough that you copy the code from somewhere that does what you want, & then change the attributes to fit your own.

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Ahh didn't realise I could have really big icons, okay I'm reshacking away your exe and have got the dock working! Finished file should be up soon. Cheers for all the help Doc! :D

[Guest drblow]

's alright! ;) Glad I could be of service. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished results.

[Guest Jamma14]

Wahay! I finished it!

HERE's where to download it (should be accepted soon).

And here's a teaser of what it looks like 8) :

[Guest drblow]

Not available quite yet. :evil: But the screenshot looks excellent m8, so I'm waiting impaitiently 'til I can download it! Good work fella. ;)

[Guest Jamma14]

Hiya again Dr Blow! (Or others that may want to help?? ;))

Is there anyway to make a shortcut unselectable??

Ie. it shows on the screen but if you press left/right it gets skipped over, as at the moment I have two plugins on the screen at the same time (an orange shortcut and a time plugin embedded in a shortcut) using widths to show them both.

But when I move right I'm getting the time plugin selected, whereas I want both the time plugin and shortcut to move over for the next one to come in and be selected.

C what I mean?

Any ideas???

James

Edited January 21, 2006 by Jamma14