T9 Issues with i-mate sp5

[Guest shadamehr]

Mmm...

Now I don't want to seem like I am SmartPhone bashing here folks but...

I am a bit concerned with my sp5...

Using t9 mode, whenever I go to write a new SMS, or fill a field in or whatever text entry I am wanting to do, before I do anything, I have to press the t9 button, to put it into intial CAPS mode, to start off with a capital letter.

This behaviour seems stupid - all other devices that I know of that use T9, if you are starting off, it will automatically give you an initial Capital letter.

Then, if you press full stop/period . and space on to the next word, AGAIN, you need to press to get a capital letter.

Once again, all other incarnations of t9 I have seen on other phones, or even typing on a Blackberry, you always automatically get an Initial Capital letter/Uppercase letter, after a full stop and a space.

It's taking me ages to type correctly on my sp5, because I find I am constantly having to keep MAKING it give me an initial capital letter.

This is incredably DUMB behaviour from what is meant to be a SMARTphone...

So can someone tell me is it the USER being dumb, and there is a way to change this behaviour to how it should be???

[Guest Pondrew]

Haven't got a WM5 device to test this on but had a quick look at my C500 (WM2003SE) which DOES capitalise automatically at the start of an SMS and after fullstops. One step forward, another step back for WM5?

[Guest gilesjuk]

When I write a text, I don't capitalise, as soon as I press the full stop and space at the end of the sentence the first letter becomes capitalised. I don't see a problem?

[Guest Wudang]

I've found the same issue when commencing a sentence that you have to alter from the default lower case to upper case - obviously carries across as well into email etc.

Agree it seems stupid in the extreme but was resigned to having to relearn the habit of a lifetime to follow the MS way - How many MS programmers does it take to change a lightbulb? None - BG declares darkness a standard ;)

[Guest UniqueTouch]

It's taking me ages to type correctly on my sp5, because I find I am constantly having to keep MAKING it give me an initial capital letter.

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You don't need to capitalise using T9...it will do itself at the beginneing of message and after a full stop.

The bug here is that the "t9" icon should really show "T9" in these instances.

[Guest Pondrew]

The bug here is that the "t9" icon should really show "T9" in these instances.

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As it did in WM2003SE (ie this is a new bug in WM5 Smartphone)

[Guest]

May not be a new bug. On Sp3, works fine writing texts, ie capitalise after full stop, but when, say, writing a new calender entry, filling in a form on a website, etc, it'll start with a lower case letter.

Is this what you've found with the SP5?

[Guest shadamehr]

Damnation damn me for a fool (except there should be no shame in not knowing about something as non-clear as this...)

But just to clarify, thanks folks...

Sure enough, it DOES do it correct... but AFTER the event.

In other words, as you type, be it after a full stop and a space, or at the very start, the word will have a lowerCASE initial letter. But as soon as you space or move onto the next word, the word will automagically get a capital letter.

This is cool that it does it (thanks folks), but bloody stupid that its not obvious, or that it does it AFTER the event - so much so that in all this time I never knew it, cos I was manually UPPERcasing the first letters myself not knowing this.

Try it folks - on WM5.0, go into a new text, start typing in t9 mode, then space onto the next word - you SHOULD find the first word you typed then gets a capital first letter. Press full stop and space on to a new word, type it, and space on, and that word should get a capital letter too.

For example if you were to type "hello folks this is me. cool this isn't it"

What you would get is the word "hello" then when you press space after it, it will change to "Hello" by itself. Then when you get to the new sentence, after the full stop and space, just type "cool" and when you press the space after it, it will change to "Cool"

Thus typing the above sentence in quotes in full, all in lowercase, as i wrote it, you would instead end up with "Hello folks this is me. Cool this isn't it"

Cool that it does this, not so cool that it can't do it in advance, as opposed to after the word.

But still, mucho handy - so thanks all!

Edited November 7, 2005 by shadamehr

[Guest shadamehr]

As it did in WM2003SE (ie this is a new bug in WM5 Smartphone)

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WM5.0 - start of a new sms shows a lowercase t9 symbol as opposed to T9 symbol - so in that respect, if you feel it was a WM2003SE bug, then it is still one.

Not sure that would be strictly true though, as per my last post, because it IS giving you an initial lowercase letter - its only when you space on to the next word, that it automagically capitalises it.

So when you first type the first character, it is technically 'correct' that it shows t9 and not T9, as it does give a lowercase character. It is the magic stuff that LATER capitalises it automatically.

Make sense?

[Guest Wudang]

Damnation damn me for a fool (except there should be no shame in not knowing about something as non-clear as this...)

But just to clarify, thanks folks...

Sure enough, it DOES do it correct... but AFTER the event.

In other words, as you type, be it after a full stop and a space, or at the very start, the word will have a lowerCASE initial letter.  But as soon as you space or move onto the next word, the word will automagically get a capital letter.

This is cool that it does it (thanks folks), but bloody stupid that its not obvious, or that it does it AFTER the event - so much so that in all this time I never knew it, cos I was manually UPPERcasing the first letters myself not knowing this.

Try it folks - on WM5.0, go into a new text, start typing in t9 mode, then space onto the next word - you SHOULD find the first word you typed then gets a capital first letter.  Press full stop and space on to a new word, type it, and space on, and that word should get a capital letter too.

For example if you were to type "hello folks this is me. cool this isn't it"

What you would get is the word "hello" then when you press space after it, it will change to "Hello" by itself.  Then when you get to the new sentence, after the full stop and space, just type "cool" and when you press the space after it, it will change to "Cool"

Thus typing the above sentence in quotes in full, all in lowercase, as i wrote it, you would instead end up with "Hello folks this is me. Cool this isn't it"

Cool that it does this, not so cool that it can't do it in advance, as opposed to after the word.

But still, mucho handy - so thanks all!

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Well if you feel you need to put on the pointy hat featuring the letter D for something so counterintuitive you better make room for me underneath as well ;)

This seems to be a version of Word's Autocorrect option - without the choice as to whether you want it on or off. In my old age I've got very used to WYSIWYG so this post the event stuff strikes me as odd* especially when the rest of the phone industry apparently capitalise from the off.

* perhaps I shouldn't use the word odd as it might offend - it's just special :D

[Guest Pondrew]

WM5.0 - start of a new sms shows a lowercase t9 symbol as opposed to T9 symbol - so in that respect, if you feel it was a WM2003SE bug, then it is still one.

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Actually I meant the opposite. In WM2003 SE (on the C500 at least) when you start an SMS T9 defaults to capital mode so doesn't need to autocorrect (although it does have autocorrect)

[Guest shadamehr]

Actually I meant the opposite. In WM2003 SE (on the C500 at least) when you start an SMS T9 defaults to capital mode so doesn't need to autocorrect (although it does have autocorrect)

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Mmm, never knew that Pondrew - was that after one of the ROM updates to it? Can't remember mine doing this, but I do know one of the ROM updates alterd t9 behaviour too...

Cool.

[Guest Pondrew]

Mmm, never knew that Pondrew - was that after one of the ROM updates to it? Can't remember mine doing this, but I do know one of the ROM updates alterd t9 behaviour too...

Cool.

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Yep, rom version 4.2.1.2. Haven't got round to installing 4.2.1.4 yet...