Manual IP settings on SP5m

[Guest turnpike17]

I just got my SP5m in from Expansys and I love it, although i do have one question. At my university i connect to wifi just fine, its fast and perfect. Although when i go home on weekends i am planning on using my wifi at home and my girlfriends, and the only problem is that the internet is connected to the computers and the wifi router is then connected to the computer, so like for example, when im on my laptop at home, I HAVE TO enter manually my ip address, subnet mask, and default gateway, as well as my preferred DNS server. Is there an option on the SP5m that lets me enter all this in, or am i stuck using EDGE when im at home.

[Guest shadamehr]

Why is the internet at home connected to the Computers and THEN to the Router?

Isn't this what a router is FOR?

You conect the 'internet' to the router, and then the router assigns the IP addresses to the individual PC's...?

And if like me, you choose to MANUALLY assign local IP addresses for your PC's (my first PC is 192.168.255.11, right trough to my last PC, which is 192.168.255.17 - as I have wired AND wireless access for one of them, thus TWO numbers), then the router can happily assign an IP address automatically to my TWO sp5 wi-fi phones.

The only problem is this... It does it by automatically assigning the NEXT AVAILABLE local IP address in the range set up by the router.

So if some of my upstairs PC's are not switched on, this means it could give one of my sp5's an IP address of 192.168.255.13 and the other one an address of 192.168.255.14.

Then, if someone went to switch the upstairs PC's on (13 and 14 respectively), they would not be able to get an IP address.

That COULD potentially be a problem on the face of it, but even with SIX PC's connected to my home network and two smartphones, my setup is not so vast and remote that if someone wants to switch an upstairs PC on, I won't know about it.

And all I need do, is temporarily turn off wi-fi on my phone, wait until the PC's in question are powered on and have their proper manual local IP address, and then re-activate my wi-fi on my phone, and the router will give it a different local IP address higher up the chain, that IS free...

I hope this all makes sense, but it's all I do, and even with six PC's and two wi-fi phones, it all works out easy enough to manage for me.

SIDE ISSUE...

Do I win the geek award for the most elaborate or 'saddest' home network?

I have four PC's (two wired, two wireless), two laptops (one of them both wired and wireless), two sp5 wi-fi SmartPhones, a Belkin pre-M router, and BOTH Telewest Broadband 10Meg service, as well as BT Business Broadband paied for by work for one of the laptops which is a work one, with a Cisco secure router and VPN tunneling.

Is this the largest and geekiest Home Network setup on Modaco folks?

(Bearing in mind I am ONLY a home worker in respect of one single laptop - all the rest are purely personal, none work based machines).

Sad or what??? Anyone got something more interesting?

[Guest peekie]

:shock: 2 SP5's :shock: living in holland i can only afford one guess iam living in the wrong country :)

[Guest shadamehr]

:shock:  2 SP5's  :shock:  living in holland i can only afford one guess iam living in the wrong country :)

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Ah Peekie me old (young) mate - you know me...

Good for credit (funny how having credit and paying it off makes you popular for MORE credit, whereby in this case credit = mobile contracts).

But unlike the hordes out here that buy all these new devices SIM free, I always buy my new phones by way of a new full contract, with a free phone, then reduce the line rental to basic cost in month four or six, depending on the contract.

So taking an SP5 for example, the current very cheapest bottom line SIM free price seems to be phones2udirect.co.uk at £297

Me on the other hand, got the phone free on a contract at £30 a month which I will drop in month six down to £15 a month. Total cost over a year therefore being £30 x 6 plus £15 x 6, whioch comes to... £270

So its even CHEAPER for me to do things this way, PLUS I get to spread the cost over a year, AND get free texts and minutes out of it too. So MUCH better than buying SIm free.

As I do this on many different handsets, I get a good credit rating, so any time I apply for a new one, I seem to get it.

This is how I do things over here.

The downside is that at this present moment, my contract situation exactly is:

O2 Online tariff for me 200Xnet anytime/500 texts: £30 Free upgrade each year, this is my main contract.

Our lass's O2 Online (as above): £30 - Upgrade each year, main contract

Vodafone Me 200Xnet anytime/50 texts: £30 - was a Nokia 6230i free when came out

Vodafone our lass (as above): £30 - Nokia 6230i again free when first came out.

Orange Text only 3000 SMS, our lass: £20 - Noka 7610 - poor phone, sold at break even.

Orange 200Xnet Anytime/500 texts, our lass: £30 - phone upgrade each year currently a C500

O2 High Street Tariff 200Xnet/200 texts, me: £30 - My SP5

Total cost per month: £200

And of those, FOUR of the ones listed above will soon be eligible for a reduction to just £15 a month.

I also have another O2 Online in my name, that my brother pays for at £30 a month, and another at £15 a month that the nanny pays for.

What I also often do when I get newer handsets is sell the previous one ot friends, and this too means I recoup any money or even make a profit on them.

The TWO SP5's I have at the minute are one on a new contract, and another that was a part exchange with user 'kinch' on here (done privately off board of course), for one of his, with my Nokia 6680 that he wanted.

I am likely to add to this list soon too, as I am due upgrades gone October on both the Orange accounts, but they have no decent phones in stock now to get anything - at least then these will be two new phones, but no additional new contracts for them...

/me sorry for going a little off topic, but it's hopefully enlightening to all of you that always buy SIM FREE.

If you go Contract with O2 or Voda in the UK, the handsets are usually none locked anyway. Unlike Orange alas - yet another reason to not stay with Orange anymore...

[Guest turnpike17]

I live in the country, in the USA, and the only DSL option we have is satellite so it MUST go through the computer before we could network it.

[Guest shadamehr]

Erm, then even with a network like mine, I am totally out of my dpeth here, as I am unclear exactly what is doing what in your setup - what does the router do, if the PC is routing things?

I'm lost and out my depth, as this sounds a bit of a step up from the normal wireless and networking setup.

Can the PC doing all the assigning still not do it in such a way that the devices connecting to the wireless router get an automatic address. In fact I am really lost here, in that going via PC first or not, isn't it still the wireless router doing the assinging, else if not, what is the wi-fi phone actually even gonna connect to?

Sorry I am more befuddled than I am helping mate, but your setup is not eactly straightforward it sounds...?

[Guest shadamehr]

Mate the more I think about it, the more I am still not entirely convinced...

The Wireless Router is STILL the actual device the phone will be connecting to.

All I can fathom is that you are somehow using your PC to setup manual IP addresses for other PC's on your network or something similar, and to control the 'first hop' step of the 'internet' coming in and going out of your house.

You should therefore surely still be able to configure your wireless router to automatically assign local IP addresses to connected devices, within the range that it sounds like your PC must be setting up?

I don't understand your unique and curious setup to get my head round this well enough...

[Guest zeros1122]

I just got my SP5m in from Expansys and I love it, although i do have one question.  At my university i connect to wifi just fine, its fast and perfect. Although when i go home on weekends i am planning on using my wifi at home and my girlfriends, and the only problem is that the internet is connected to the computers and the wifi router is then connected to the computer, so like for example, when im on my laptop at home, I HAVE TO enter manually my ip address, subnet mask, and default gateway, as well as my preferred DNS server. Is there an option on the SP5m that lets me enter all this in, or am i stuck using EDGE when im at home.

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Microsoft doesn't leave UI for sp users to enter fixed ip cause they think DHCP will dominate the world... :) but actually we still have chance to use fix ip. Try the registry I found here:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Parms\Tcpip]

IpAddress=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

Fill the ip address you want.

Also there're several associated reg that you may want to change, such like submask , etc.

Note that you have to clean the IpAddres if you back to DHCP environment or you'll not able to surf again.

Edited November 24, 2005 by zeros1122

[Guest schriss]

I have setup my wireless router DHCP settings in the way, that I always get the IP I want, I have setup static IPs for my devices (assigned via MAC addresses).

Anyway, do you guys know the way of browsing network folders with SP5m? It's easy on Pocket PC but I can't find a way to do it on SP5m.

[Guest Tech]

you cant browse network folders on smartphones (including sp5m's)

the router should be giving automatic IP settings (DHCP server should be turned on) plus making sure you enable wireless MAC filter.

[Guest paolop59]

Microsoft doesn't leave UI for sp users to enter fixed ip cause they think DHCP will dominate the world... :)  but actually we still have chance to use fix ip.  Try the registry I found here:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Parms\Tcpip]

IpAddress=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

Fill the ip address you want.

Also there're several associated reg that you may want to change, such like submask , etc.

Note that you have to clean the IpAddres if you back to DHCP environment or you'll not able to surf again.

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Hy everybody, I read only now the quoted Post and I tried to modify the registry of my Sp5m as indicated, but I couldn't because the modification was not accepted (after having done it the value returned automatically to 0.0.0.0). I tought that the value "EnableDHCP=1" was the reason of this so I tried to modify it to "0" but it was again automatically returned to "1". Then I tought it was the value "Autocfg=1" the reason (=autoconfiguration on?) but not even this modification was accepted. So how is it possible to modify a registry value (I used two different softwares)?

In any case, in order to connect to internet through a wifi access point, who tells the smatphone who is the gateway (my wifi access point doesn't give this possibility unless set to manual Ip and not to dhcp)? In a pocket pc you can tell this to it by setting up the Wifi form, but here? Is there a registry value? I couldn't find it.

Thank you for the help.