Guest RichardD Posted December 1, 2005 Report Posted December 1, 2005 Sorry to start another TomTom thread, but I'm confused... Their "Mobile" version comes on a Mini SD card which obviously makes things easier than the "Navigator" version which is on SD. I've sent TomTom a support request asking which they recommend for the Wizard, despite the fact it's not listed as a supported device (yet). I understand the Wizard is classed as a pocket pc, rather than a smartphone, but when it comes to TomTom, what's the difference ?
Guest Pondrew Posted December 1, 2005 Report Posted December 1, 2005 I expect the main difference will be interface. If you run TomTom Mobile (the Smartphone version) you'll not be able to use the full features of the Pocket PC (ie touchscreen). I've not compared TomTom Navigator (Pocket PC version) with TomTom Mobile (Smartphone) so can't tell u what the other differences will be.
Guest RichardD Posted December 1, 2005 Report Posted December 1, 2005 Ah good point... although... on the Wizard and WM5 it's nice not having to use the touchscreen.
Guest Pondrew Posted December 1, 2005 Report Posted December 1, 2005 Actually, I think you WM5 users are the first who've been able to choose between the Smartphone and Pocket PC software. It's only with Windows Mobile 5 that the two platforms have started to merge...
Guest RichardD Posted December 1, 2005 Report Posted December 1, 2005 me: I have recently purchased the XDA Mini, which is based on the HTC Wizard / imate K-Jam. It has Windows Mobile 2005 and a Mini SD slot. I have seen the 5.2 update is available for both NAVIGATOR and MOBILE. I've been told my phone is classed as a pocket pc, but as it has the Mini SD card which version should I purchase ? Thanks in advance of your kind response. tomtom: We are sorry to inform you that the XDA Mini with Windows Mobile 2005 is not compatible with the Navigator 5 software. We hope to release a fix for this in the near future. We are sorry for the inconvenience. Shall I send them the link to MoDaCo's how to thread. :)
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted December 1, 2005 Report Posted December 1, 2005 When I get round to getting a Wizard I'll let you know if it works or not but as it's a PPC technically it should work. There have been compatability problems with other applications and the Wizard though.
Guest peekie Posted December 1, 2005 Report Posted December 1, 2005 i have both versions one on my spv c550 and the other on my qtek s100 , both look the same but the pda version is a pain as you have to install more things to get it going eg the voices and maps ect come on a cd and all require installing ,the spv version comes complete and ready to use i found that easier just pop in the sd card and your off :)
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted December 1, 2005 Report Posted December 1, 2005 All TomTom products will now be released on a storage card so no installation worries anymore :)
Guest PayableOnDeath Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 All TomTom products will now be released on a storage card so no installation worries anymore :) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> then you get the problem of swaping Storage Cards around everytime you wanna use tomtom cos you bet there will only room for the tom tom software on the cards :D
Guest RichardD Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 then you get the problem of swaping Storage Cards around everytime you wanna use tomtom I believe it's a 128 card, so provided you can copy it all onto a 1gb card, that should resolve the swap issue. Otherwise, just make sure any apps you're likely to want while navigating are on the inbuilt storage.
Guest Metoo Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 (edited) Shall I send them the link to MoDaCo's how to thread. :) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> TomTom support will refuse to acknowledge the bleedingly obvious, if it says so in their scripts. They're adamant that the M5000 is not compatible with the WM5 version, though the XDA Exec and Jasjar are. Just like some ISPs refuse to accept a their mail server's down because you're not running the right version of Windows. The developers aren't any better. The quality of the latest "WM 5 compatible" 5.21 update is appalling. 1. The "fixed" Activesync install won't install to the memory card. The TomTom CAB doesn't ask where you want it (breaking the WM5 spec), and the Today plugin CAB asks you but ignores your answer and just sticks it in main memory. So by the time you moved everything around, you may as well have done it the old "how to" way. 2. The new install scripts use different directory names to 5.1 so causing even more duplication. 3. It still ignores the WM2003SE/WM5 screen orientation flags, so unless you drill down through Preferences and change it manually, you're stuck in Portrait. So much for supporting WM5. In typical TomTom style, they bodged the whole thing. I imagine that's a direct result of them moving to the "unified" TomTom Mobile code base - they've probably sacked all the people who had any WM expertise (or could even read a Microsoft developers' guide), and left the tea boy to do the testing. Edited December 7, 2005 by Metoo
Guest mr_naughty Posted December 15, 2005 Report Posted December 15, 2005 I have an old TomTom Mobile, which gives me access to TomTom's Support services. They eventually gave me the definitive answer about Navigator vs Mobile. I've posted the entire conversation below, so as to leave no doubt about what the TomTom support experience is like. >>>ME: Hi. After the recent announcement about the 5.2 release that supports Windows Mobile 5, I have decided that I would like to upgrade to it. Unfortunately, this announcement came after the upgrade period for my product was closed. I am planning to upgrade my phone from a C500 to a T-Mobile MDA Vario in the coming weeks, and the WM5 support is critical to my upgrade decision. Please can you confirm that v5.2 is compatible with the Vario (whilst a WM5 device it is not currently on your compatibility list), and explain the upgrade choices that you can make available to me. I would be very grateful if the original upgrade offer could be extended to me now. thanks in anticipation, .. >>TOMTOM: Dear Mr Casey, Unfortunately your phone is not compatible to the Mobile 5. Please click on the link below to find compatibility list for your information. At TomTom we strive to make our products compatible with as many devices and platforms as possible. However, connectivity protocols are dictated by the technology markets, not by TomTom, so we are at the mercy of the fact that there is not a standard set of connectivity protocols that covers all platforms and devices. We therefore choose to use the most commonly supported connectivity protocols (Bluetooth 1.1 and DUN) in order to support as many devices as we possibly can. Due to this lack of a single generic set of connectivity standards, it is unfortunately not possible for us to support all devices. Our testing department is constantly testing all new devices that are released on the market, and when necessary we make changes to our software to further improve the compatibility of our products. In future we will continue to expand our compatibility lists, and will strive to ensure that our products support as many devices as possible. http://www.tomtom.com/products/features.php?ID=69&Language=1 With best regards, The TomTom Customer Support Team >>ME: Dear idiots, The Imate K-JAM is identical to the T-Mobile Vario, and the K-JAM is listed on your compatability lists. Please can you advise the best product to use on this device - TomTom Navigator 5 or TomTom Mobile 5? I know that both can work on this device, but am unclear about the differences between these products. Please refer to the links below for useful information about your own products. http://www.modaco.com/How_To_Setup_Tomtom_...am-t229788.html http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=...=0entry695561 Best Regards, .. >>TOMTOM: Dear Mr Casey, Thank you for your email. But your device is not on our compatibility list and is not compatible either for Mobile or Navigator 5 until we officially release it on our website. With best regards, The TomTom Customer Support Team >>ME: Please let me be clear, my question is this: I have a device that I know can run TomTom Navigator or TomTom Mobile, regardless of your published hardware compatability lists. Please can you advise me of the differences between these two products, so that I can make a decision about which one to buy? (e.g. Navigator has a touch-screen UI, but Mobile doesn't) I accept that I will be running an unsupported configuration regardless of my product choice, but I do not see why this should be a reason for avoiding my question. I simply want to understand the differences between MOBILE and NAVIGATOR. >>TOMTOM: Dear Mr Casey, Thank you for your email. Kindly click on the link below and check the compatibility list of your mobile. http://www.tomtom.com/products/features.php?ID=69&Language=1 With best regards, The TomTom Customer Support Team >>ME: I'm sorry, but the information on that web page does nothing to answer my question. I am not concerned with compatability. Let's say I have an Orange SPV C600 and also have a T-Mobile MDA Pro. I want to buy a TomTom product for one of these devices. Should I buy MOBILE for the C600 or NAVIGATOR for the MDA Pro? What are the differences between the products that could affect my decision? There simply is not enough product information on your website for me to make an informed choice, and ask that you provide me with a brief overview of the major functional differences between these products. If you cannot do this, you will force me to choose a product from your competitors, who can provide me with this information. I look forward to your informative response. ... >>TOMTOM: Dear Mr Casey, The issue is "compatibility" as the device/s you wish to use the TomTom software on/with must be compatible - i.e. be able to run the software in its fully functional form. Both the devices you have referred to in your email are listed as being compatible with the TomTom software. The features/functions for Mobile 5 and Navigator 5 are the same. Therefore the choice that you need to make is essentially which device you wish to have TomTom software loaded to, once you have decided that you can then purchase either Mobile 5 for your mobile phone, or, Navigator 5 for your PDA. With best regards, The TomTom Customer Support Team >>END That's it boys and girls. There is no difference between MOBILE and NAVIGATOR for the Wizard. At least, that's what TOMTOM say themselves.
Guest RichardD Posted December 15, 2005 Report Posted December 15, 2005 (edited) Hmmn, looks like the good old, who in support you get issue. I've had a more optimistic reply following on from the conversation I quoted above... me:Thank you for your reply. When you say, "release a fix", is that like an update available for download ? Which version would I need for the XDA Mini S - TomTom MOBILE or TomTom NAVIGATOR? (the same phone as imate K-Jam and Qtek 9100)to which this time they reply:You will need the Navigator 5 software. You can try the 5.2 update but please be advised that it does not work on all PDA/Smartphones so we would advise you to wait and keep a look at the download section for updates/compatiblility list updates. I like the idea of MOBILE so I don't have to reach for the stylus and the software will arrive on a MiniSD saving me purchasing one. I have a friend who has the Orange SPV500 and TomTom MOBILE, gonna ask him if he's installed the 5.2 update and see if he'll let me shove the MiniSD in my phone to test it. Edited December 15, 2005 by RichardD
Guest minty1978 Posted December 15, 2005 Report Posted December 15, 2005 i have navigat 5.2 on my vario, works perfectly! dont mind tapping the screen, i often use my finger instead of the stylus...which is dead easy :)
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted December 16, 2005 Report Posted December 16, 2005 This topic has taken a dive downhill with requests for help and advice on dodgy versions. These posts have been removed and topic will now be locked. You all know the rules guys and if not read them again. And to summerize the topic title the Wizard is a Pocket PC and so needs the Pocker PC version of TomTom5.
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