If ur wondering about Battery power in C600

[Guest sunny183]

1. I ran TomTom Mobile 5 in my C600 with backlight on and connected with a BT GPS receiver, and it ran for 7 hours and 35 mins untill it gave a message about low battery power. Then it ran for another approx 45 mins and then switched it self off.

2. I dialed from my C600 to my landline and kept the call running. It ran for approx 7 hours and 15 mins until it gave message about low battery power. There was still about 15% battery power left. During the call the backlight was OFF, Bluetooth Was ON.

;)

[Guest Tech]

that really isnt proper testing

you have to also consider talking time - how long the battery lasts when actually answering the phone and talking - not just letting it ring.

my 2xC500 with bluetooth and IR left on lasts me for a good solid week before recharging - and i use bluetooth all the time and talking about 3 hours per day or a bit more ;)

[Guest Dr Who]

2xC500???

[Guest Jamma14]

I'm assuming he means his 2 c500s - and Tech that is a pretty damn good battery life, mine never got that. (Guess I really should do a proper first charge when I get a new phone ;))

[Guest Tech]

yes - very sorry - 2xC500 means 2 of the C500's I have lol

well i guess it does help in the long run for making sure you fully rundown the charge the battery on the first-second run ;)

It also depends on how high the signal quality is on the area as lower signal coverage means that the phone has to work harder to fetch another signal wave/carrier/transmitter from somewhere else :D

[Guest sunny183]

that really isnt proper testing

you have to also consider talking time - how long the battery lasts when actually answering the phone and talking - not just letting it ring.

my 2xC500 with bluetooth and IR left on lasts me for a good solid week before recharging - and i use bluetooth all the time and talking about 3 hours per day or a bit more ;)

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that 7 hours and 15 mins is a talking time............i've got a 1000 off peak crossnet contract from orange which i hardly use......so i used 435 mins from that.........and about the signal strength.......i get 2 to3 bars at home..........

[Guest Dr Who]

A.......week...........f*** me. I get two days. Maybe a third, if I don''t mind running out of juice at some point.

[Guest moosery]

yes - it does seem that some people measure their phone battery life in line with their manhood, by upping the figure by about double!

I am concerned with the life of the c600. I think its possibly because of the dumb backlight system (I much prefer the way the c500 actually turns the backlight OFF while on "display time out" only).

I seem to have to charge the c600 daily. The c500 could go 3-days.

I'm not doing much different in terms of day to day use of the phones.

And I live and work in "5 bar" locations in birmingham!!

A week my small long eared donkey!!! If you're leaving it switched off maybe?!

[Guest Tech]

;) actually no - leaving it switched on day and night! never off unless it cuts out when battery is low

both my phones are switched on day and night for work - if i get an important call or family emergency - I also work day and nights sometimes and use the phone

but hey - it all depends how you use the phone! im just telling you what I have :D

[Guest beersoft]

you could always use the industry standard batterymonitor thing i wrote -> http://www.modaco.com/index.php?act=dscrip...etails&f_id=250

keep it running for a few days in the background and post the results and we can compare them to the other phones

later

Owen

[Guest moosery]

you could always use the industry standard batterymonitor thing i wrote -> http://www.modaco.com/index.php?act=dscrip...etails&f_id=250

keep it running for a few days in the background and post the results and we can compare them to the other phones

later

Owen

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..I guess worth noting: I assume we have to leave bluetooth/beam off to make it fair, and not fiddle with the phone or play pocketsnes, and to keep the backlight/power settings to default (what are the defaults again?)

just a thought

Oh yeah, my battery is a samsung one, 1150mah...any of you super weeklong phone owners got a different battery?

Edited January 18, 2006 by moosery

[Guest beersoft]

you can have the phone set to how you like it, as it does help to give more 'real world' results

and using the phone is always a good idea, whats the point in having a phone if your not going to use it ;)

later

Owen

[Guest moosery]

Right then. My mpx200, c500 and c600 all have about 100% charge right now and all have the prog running in background.

May the best man win (I already know it'll be the c500..I'm more interested in seeing if the 600 is actually any better than the mpx!!)

[Guest namiran]

strange how c600 can have so much less battery time than my qtek 8310. without fiddling with any times, with radio, bt and wlan OFF i watched a movie for 1½ hour with xvid codec, and listened to music for 3½ hours and when checking my battery was at 62%. During this trip i turned the radio ON 4 times to check for messages and maid 2 small calls. I Never got such good results from my C500 nor my C550 (i make the same trip pretty often)

[Guest sunny183]

just a thought

Oh yeah, my battery is a samsung one, 1150mah...any of you super weeklong phone owners got a different battery?

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my battery is a

SANYO

Model: ST26C

Rating: 3.7VDC, 1150mAh

[Guest Dark Horse]

Here's an idea, if you put the higher capacity battery that ships with the C550/C600 in a C500, would you get significantly longer standby/talk time than with the ordinary C500 battery? I think the capacity of the two batteries are 1250ma for the C550/C600 and 1050ma for the C500.

Regards,

Dark Horse

[Guest iflya]

There is a 1150mAH in the C600 and 1105mAH in the C500

... but both batts work in each both phones ... I thought that the lower mAH, the longer it should run as its emitting using less power ... at least thats how i remember it from science with Mrs X (! oh my! strange how memories are triggered! what a fox she was way back then to us 15 year olds! probably as rough as old rope really!)

E:) (worryingly wondering what she does now ...)

[Guest newtonmj]

You should've paid more attention in class! ;)

The mAH figure is a measure of the battery's capacity - the higher the figure the higher capacity.

Essentially, 1150mAH is the product of how much current in can supply for a given time, i.e. it can supply 1150mA for 1 hour, or 1mA for 1150 hours. Of course, the current consumption of the phone will be somewhere between these figures, but it in an 'ideal' case the product of the current consumption and time will be 1150. In the non-ideal case of the real world it's not quite as simple as this due to a whole host of other factors that come into play (i.e. duff batteries, inadequate charging, varying power levels, varing temperature, self-monitoring functionality etc etc) but that's the difference between theory and practice for you!

Now, write that up on the board 100 hundred times before you go.... :D

Mathew

[Guest Philpo]

Hey,

I used to run the battery monitor prog on my c500 and it was great! However i've just installed it on my c600 and instead of getting stats and figures all i get are weird boxes!? Is this something to do with wm5 or the qvga screen?

Does anyone else have this problem? I really wanted to do some battery tests as i think ive been gettin worse battery life with my c600.

P

[Guest moosery]

Hey,

I used to run the battery monitor prog on my c500 and it was great!  However i've just installed it on my c600 and instead of getting stats and figures all i get are weird boxes!? Is this something to do with wm5 or the qvga screen?

Does anyone else have this problem? I really wanted to do some battery tests as i think ive been gettin worse battery life with my c600.

P

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Er, no!

Thats probably something else. The first thing I did when I got my c600 was run it for a few hours on the C500 battery, while I charged the new battery in the c500 (makes sense to me)

a battery is a battery is a battery. You could use the mpx200 battery if you wanted, though you'd have a job getting the terminals in the right place.

In fact, I'm contemplating carrying round a car battery for my c600..

[Guest moosery]

Here's an idea, if you put the higher capacity battery that ships with the C550/C600 in a C500, would you get significantly longer standby/talk time than with the ordinary C500 battery? I think the capacity of the two batteries are 1250ma for the C550/C600 and 1050ma for the C500.

Regards,

Dark Horse

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the c500 is 1050 vs c600 is 1150. I doubt theres that much difference really. Not unless you're doing controlled tests.

Besides, the c500 lasts for about 4 years on standby anyway! ;)

[Guest moosery]

Right then. My mpx200, c500 and c600 all have about 100% charge right now and all have the prog running in background.

May the best man win (I already know it'll be the c500..I'm more interested in seeing if the 600 is actually any better than the mpx!!)

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Right. Where do I start

1) the C600 has poor battery life. Mine does, anyway. Side by side in daily usage, I have to charge it about daily. Lame. I do use it heavily though, not for bluetooth but for gprs and games and stuff.

The C500 I can get 2 or maybe 3 days. The difference between battery life for these two phones is VERY noticable.

2) The battery utility - OWEN - how does this thing work? I would have thought that if you start it at 100% and by 50% it's been running for 12 hours - surely the est remaining battery time should be another 12 hours? This doesnt seem to be the case, it says things like 3 days?? Do you have any info on what its algorithms are? Would appreciate as the whole deal is puzzling me!

3) The backlight is possibly the killer on the C600? I have noticed that, and this is just an educated guess, dont flame pls, but if you keep USING the phone, ie the backlight is being turned on and off say once every 2 or 3 mins - that's what's caning the battery life? Moreso than bluetooth does!??! The screen is very bright and very crisp - is this the cost?

4) Is the degradation of the battery linear? I know that lithium batteries charge non linearly (is it inverse logarithmic? I forget). In other words, it takes 20% of the charge time to get to 50% charged, and the other 80% of time is to charge the last 50%. This is fact (I get bored at work and read spec sheets for no apparent reason!). So if the battery isnt linearly discharging then how can you guess how long it will last? huh? huh?

5) I havent actually got any black and white figures 'cos the c600 keeps erm, crashing. I can tell you that owen's monitor says about 12 hours if you turn on the bluetooth AND beam AND permanently lit backscreen. And it says about 3 days if you turn the above off. It might be right - if the backlight remains off. I just dont understand what it means, and I havent had 24hours yet, never mind anywhere near 3 days.

6) My significant other has a c600 also (sad, I know) and she's been whining about the battery needing charging every day.

Ok...thats my rant. Anyone else got any input?

[Guest Philpo]

Hey,

I'm just interested you got the battery monitor to run at all on your c600. I wasn't getting any figures at all. V strange. Maybe Owen can help me?

The battery life does seem particularly rubbish compared to the c500. I always have bluetooth on and im getting about 3 days. On the c500 i would get about 6 or 7 with my normal useage.

P

[Guest beersoft]

ok guys and girls

yes the c500 battery fits the c600 but swapping batterys is a bad thing, unless your going to hard reset the phones using the batterylife tip (you know the one, its on the orange rom upgrade page (and i tested it and published the results here at one point)) every time you swap the battery your going to cause problems

to be honest i havent tested the battery monitor on a c600 as i dont have one, if it doesnt work it means microsoft have done something retarded with drawtext or the system calls for battery status, it works on every other device i've tried it on

if it does work and your getting results the way it works the guestimated time out is the average of a fast percent (when your using the phone) a slow percent (standby time) the time the last percent was used (current usage) and the average of the 3 divided by 4 times the remaining dipercentage of battery left

in code view its

$timeleft = ($slow + $fast + $current + ($slow+$fast+$current/3))/4 * $batterylevelpercentage

setting some ground rules for battery/phone usage

reciving and making calls use on average 1% every 2 to 12 mins

videos use 1% every 4 to 15 mins

mp3/wmv/whatevermusicformat use 1% every 20 to 40 mins

so to make it easy, 1 min of call is the same as 1 min of video or 1 pop song (3.3mins eurovision rules)

if you charged the phone and left it in a draw that gets 80% or better signal, which i have been told isn't the way they make the numbers up for phones honest, you will beat the published time

so for a power user your going to get 15 to 30% of the published standby time, thats lots of video, games,gprs, calls and the like

the average user who uses the phone for mp3's and the odd game or text or email/gprs should get 30 to 60%

and everyone else must have the phone in a draw waiting for it to go flat ;)

this mean for the normal person, if you take the phone off charge at 8am, listen to mp3s/watch videos for an hour on the way to work/school/whatever then make or recive 30 mins of calls then do another hour of phone usage on the way home your going to use 30% to 40% of the battery in 'fannying about time' then you add in signal strength and other variables to this and that can account for another 10%, so that half the battery gone in 9 hours, then you go to the pub and dont play with the phone then go to bed, thats lots of time when the phones doing nothing and getting 2+ hours per % of battery life so thats down to 57% and its 8am again

2 days with usage is good (if you think it sucks, you can use my e100 that lasts 8 hours if you dont look at it and then tell me 2 days sucks)

any questions let me know

later

Owen

[Guest Philpo]

Thanks for clearing that up ;)

Regards

P