Orange c500 and Bluetooth GPS Setup Help Please

[Guest Ferdy147]

I already have a SPV C500 with GPS and TomTom Mobile installed and working. This c500 is Operator version 4.1.1.4

I've just bought another C500 from Orange shop for my sister and trying to set sat nav on it for her. However it seems I cant get the Bluetooth GPS setup right. The Bluetooth menu options are a bit different as the Operator version here is 4.2.1.1

Anyone got any ideas on how i can get GPS set up correctly? The tomtom install gets as far as selecting voices and then freezes. After this point it needs to connect with GPS device so its failing.

Please HELP !

Thanks,

Ferd

[Guest Pondrew]

Have you consulted TomTom support to see if they've experienced similar problems?

[Guest Ferdy147]

Have you consulted TomTom support to see if they've experienced similar problems?

No but its not really a TomTom issue as its the Bluetooth GPS (Leadtek 9357) and C500 that arent pairing correctly.

[Guest lft480]

What version of TT do you have ?

I have the same Orange c500 version and TT3 and TT5.00 both work with a cheap BT GPS receiver OK ( it takes serval seconds to recogise there is a receiver on startup) and

I had to make no changes at all - except select "other BT " GPS" from the TT Settings menu.

I do know that TT sets up its own BT connection on start and removes it on closing the app - whereas other Satnav s/w usually requires you to set up outgoing and ingoing com ports in the phones Bluetooth setup screen. also Only ONE GPS app can be running at once to recognise the BT receiver.

I have heard that if you make some BT settings yourself - it can get confused and its best to remove everything and start again = the usual when you have a problem just reset everything.

I suggest removing ALL BT settings you may have made, restart the phone, start your BT receiver with its BT on in an area where it will get good reception, active phones BT to refind the GPS, enter the code and pair it, run TT5 and just select "other BT GPS receiver" and just wait aseveral seconds. regardless of GPS signal , in this setting TT screen if the top right little circular icon starts twirling, then its communicating over BT ok. Although I did not have to do anything more, I have also heard that sometimes other users have had to rename their paired GPS receiver to the same name as the official TT reciever, but mine worked fine 1st time as its defaul of 'BT-GPS'

Can I also please ask you which car charger you use to keep your existing c500 running off the car power whilst its On and running TT and charging - I ask because the one I bought (3rd party from mobilefun.co.uk)seems to only charge with the phone off ( I thinks its not supplying enough current) what current (ie are your car chargers greater than 400mAmp rated for the c500 ) with mine, if its on and running TT, the LED flashes orange rather than full on and only starts to charge for a few seconds than goines back to merely running off the battery - which just drains it.

I already have a SPV C500 with GPS and TomTom Mobile installed and working. This c500 is Operator version 4.1.1.4

I've just bought another C500 from Orange shop for my sister and trying to set sat nav on it for her. However it seems I cant get the Bluetooth GPS setup right. The Bluetooth menu options are a bit different as the Operator version here is 4.2.1.1

Anyone got any ideas on how i can get GPS set up correctly? The tomtom install gets as far as selecting voices and then freezes. After this point it needs to connect with GPS device so its failing.

Please HELP !

Thanks,

Ferd

[Guest Ferdy147]

Thanks for the reply.

I have TomTom5 v5.20. I didnt realise there was a v3 of tomtom mobile.

The cannot select 'other gps reciever' from within TomTom as I cannot get to the menu options. When i execute TomTom i first get select language screen, then select time format 12/24h etc, select miles/km, then select voice. As soon as i select the voice it freezes.

I had this happen on a c550 and it turned out once it was paired to gps reciever and was running then it went through to the maps and proper menu options. But I cannot get this far on this c500 so for some reason im guessing its something to do with the GPS setup. Do you have msn? Perhaps i could ask you some questions on there if thats ok? My msn is [email protected] - Thanks,

With regards to car charger....I just bought one of ebay for

[Guest lft480]

Hmm - I dont have an MSN account and cant access any IM from Work :)

I dont know for sure what your problem is re - As soon as i select the voice it freezes.

However, My original install of TTN5.0 was easy ie I just ran it direct from the MiniSD card - I think I had an issue with Maps - only because I did not have all the folders in the root of the MinSD card.

After pairing my receiver with the phone (note I did not set any com ports up at all to get TT working - as I said it seems to use another api to do all this on the fly itself.) with TTN5.0 initially it just said NO maps found with the only option to cancel and exit !!! I solved this by realizing I did not have the Map folder sin the rrot of the Storage card. However, I have seen on the net a number of people have similar "freezing" problems to yours in install on pdas. Having been up till gonr 4am this morning install TTN5.0 on a pda myself I now can sympathise. On the pda others and I found it Froze when I selected a map. In may case I was trying to do an unconventional install in that I was trying to install evrything in the 200mb ROM of a DELL WM5 pda rather than use a card. I eventually found the cause of the freezing - although I ran all the .cab install files and it installed the core of TT5, I found I had to manually create/copy the folder Tomtom from the card into Storage\My Documents\TomTom on the device. I further found that I have to copy the voices folder to the device so thta it was avail if I removed the card, else although it did not free all voices were disabled. In the end althoughI got it to work it appears I have to have the maps on a storage card - ie its hard coded to look for maps in the root of the card even though I have enough meneory to install in the ROM - arrgh

I know its all a little different on the Smartphone, but I think its a similar issue - namely that TT software is hardcoded to expect certain folders to be in certain places in the device's onboard storage, so that certain eithr dat files or config files can be read or created there.

Now - your 5.2 version may be abit differnet, but I suggest if you have it working on another mobile to closely check you have the same folders created etc. In theory you should be able to just copy the files, its just you need to get an offical registered key to run the main exe.

storage\My Documents\TomTom\currentMap.dat

storage\Program Files\tomTom\sdkFileCalls\ (nothing/no files in here)

storage card\Great_Britain Navigator Map\ (all the GB map data files)

storage card\tomtom mobile 5 smartphones\ ( all the TT folders and main exe in:)

eg

storage card\tomtom mobile 5 smartphones\TomTom\Ttomtom mobile exe

storage card\tomtom mobile 5 smartphones\Voices\ (all the voice data files)

sorry - long story - but I am sure it something like this. Also I think 5.2 was brought out to fix problems/incompatibilities with WM5 (eg on pda and C600) maybe its introduced some issue with the older c500's WM2003SE operationg system !

thats the best I can do

thanks for the info on car charger

good luck

[Guest cooldudeengland]

ello lft480,

i also have a dell axim x50 and have installed tt5 navigator with uk maps.

it is working fine but i cannot seem to get it to recoginise the gps - always says no gps device

it is correctly paired after having entered the passkey but even still when i try to select the 'other gps device' option it comes up with a warning asking for it to be paired (not sure if this is just a general warning or not)

i know there are some ways to workaround this having looked on the tt website by selecting other nmea device - with 38540 baud and com 7 but i don't have a com 7 either?!

any help would be appreciated

[Guest lft480]

hi cooldudeengland

Well - Mine is actually a new x51v (ie almost same as x50v but with Windows Mobile 5 operating system and pretty recent ROM (A08 i think)

From what I understand from searching the Web, the main issue is that it should work OK on a pda running the previous Windows 2003SE (which if you have the earlier x50v you should have - please clarify versions of everything)but that by default TTN 5.0 wont find the BT GPS signal on WM5 based pda because the BT stuff and its veritual com ports are all handled abit differently.

I dont have the pda with me now, but when I first installed it - I deliberatly ONLY paire dit and selected serial devive checked in the Settings/ GPS bit. I did NOT set any BlueTooth com ports at aLL ! and went into the config screen the list of GPS ports was something like COM0, COM 1, IR, BT UART ..., and then a strange entry consisting of a series of Question Marks something like: ???? -? ??? - ???

Since I already knew from others it would not work as was I then d/l and ran a free utility that I had read would fix the situation and make it work on exactely my hardware and software setup :

This is the Post I found on the Net from someone:

I use TT5.0 on my x51v. No problems at all. It doesn't have to be TT5.21.

My problem was that TT5.0 couldn't find my bluetooth Holux GPSlim236 on port 7 or 8. I had to install a fix I found. It was called WM5GPSFIX.zip and it let TT5.0 easily find my GPS. It was funny, once I installed the fix I never got a chance to tell TT which port. It just found and started using it by itself. Perhaps it will help you. Let us know if it works...

Download WM5GPSFIX.zip here.

(http://buzzdev.net/components/com_simpleboard/uploaded/files/WM5GPSFIX.zip)

unzip it and copy the .cab file to the pda and just click on it in explorer. I think it makes some settings in the registry to make more ports visible to TTN5.0.

There is also this at the following linke - which looks like it is written by the guy that created the saem fix:

http://www.wm5fixsite.com/index.php?option...6&Itemid=30

If you read this he also describes setting com ports up to run other GPS s/w. I did not, I merely ran the .cab. All it seems to do was add multiple entries for com 1 or 4 - cant remember, but I decided to select the one with Question marks out of curiocity and to my very great surprise, TT started to see the receiver and its worked since. I have NOT seen anyone else mention this - so it may be something specific to the ROm version of my pda or the GPS receiver itself (later I doubt).

I have also heard others say that with TTN 5.xx its best to not have any BT com port settings - if you have started to set them - remove them and or do a soft reset (or as last resort a hard reset to clear everything)

Just eith let it find the device or try each of the listed ones in the TT Settings / GPS config / other screen.

The above infers that in my case I probably did not need to run the WM5GPSFIX.cab.

So - tell me the exact version of the pda, windows and TTN ?.?? and also the complete list on the TT Settings BT GPS available ports screen ?

PS what car charger do you use - the 3rd part one I bought does not seem to supply enough current - esp. when battery low - I have heard this elsewhere and that the car charger needs to by atleast 1amp rated to both charge and power the Dell directly ?

ello lft480,

i also have a dell axim x50 and have installed tt5 navigator with uk maps.

it is working fine but i cannot seem to get it to recoginise the gps - always says no gps device

it is correctly paired after having entered the passkey but even still when i try to select the 'other gps device' option it comes up with a warning asking for it to be paired (not sure if this is just a general warning or not)

i know there are some ways to workaround this having looked on the tt website by selecting other nmea device - with 38540 baud and com 7 but i don't have a com 7 either?!

any help would be appreciated