MDA Vario II Wifi connection problems

[Guest flashflash]

Hi guys,

Bought a MDA2 on T-mobile a few days back. I had a SPV M600 and really got fed up with the data charges, so jumped ship to T-mobile.

Anyway, M600 found and connected to wifi no problem at all. However, thats not the case with MDA.

The only way I can get WIFI to connect is to assign a static IP address and DNS . However, when i connect to WnW UTMS/GPRS, I get the 2 min wait!!! before downloading a page.

Now, after reading this forum, it has become clear that there is a problem with DHCP assigning of IPs on the WIFI (I am using a BT HomeHub and also tried 3com Router still no luck).So assigning a static IP and DNS is not a problem for me except I now read there is a bug with IE when you assign a static IP to the wifi connection..

So are all you people really having this problem as well? is the only solution to type in IP settings for wifi everytime I want to connect then remove them afterwards?? Is it a problem with certain types or routers?

Such a shame, because i feel really let down with the MDA if this cant be fixed. My M600 connects without a problem! I have a Herm300 for your info.

Please help, because I've just signed an 18month contract and feeling very let down...

Also anyone who has push email running, what sort of battery life you getting. I'm down to 50% after 12 hours standby (wifi off, beam off, screen off after 1 min, bluetooth off, screen brightness one notch of lowest).

Edited December 3, 2006 by flashflash

[Guest flashflash]

sorry guys, but does anyone have a solution. How comes no one is complaining of WIFI problems.???

[Guest MikeWard1701]

Hi flash,

People have been complaining of WiFi problems from what I've seen on here, but I myself dont seem to be experiencing them.

I'm currently using a Netgear DG834G Wireless ADSL Modem Router. Statis IPs and encrypted with WPA-PSK.

The only problem I have with WiFi is that if I'm away from the house, disble the Wifi and switch the connections back to T-Mobile Internet. When I return after swiching WiFi back on and changing the connections, I have to soft reset for things like PIE to notice the change.

Sorry I cant me of more help.

Mike

[Guest MikeWard1701]

Hmmm posted twice for some reason.

Edited December 5, 2006 by MikeWard1701

[Guest Pondrew]

Topic title edited to avoid confusion with the MDA II (HTC Himilaya) or MDA Compact II (HTC Charmer)

[Guest jimbouk]

The main reason people are reluctant to post answers to wifi problems is that there are so many links in a successful solution... any one of them can be wrong and it doesnt work.

The simplest way is to try it without changing anything.If that doesnt work then remove all security on the router (WEP/WPA, MAC FIltering, Hide SSID Broadcast) and try it again. If that doesnt work, then try a different channel on the router.

Assuming you have actually got a connection after the above, WPA can prove problematic with WM5 so I would try WEP 128bit encryption. I would also use MAC filtering (remember that your network card has a different mac code to the device) and leave the SSID broadcast ON.

[Guest flashflash]

Hi flash,

People have been complaining of WiFi problems from what I've seen on here, but I myself dont seem to be experiencing them.

I'm currently using a Netgear DG834G Wireless ADSL Modem Router. Statis IPs and encrypted with WPA-PSK.

The only problem I have with WiFi is that if I'm away from the house, disble the Wifi and switch the connections back to T-Mobile Internet. When I return after swiching WiFi back on and changing the connections, I have to soft reset for things like PIE to notice the change.

Sorry I cant me of more help.

Mike

Hi Mike, thanks for your response. So you have set up your wife connection with a static ip, DNS etc. When turn off the wifi you switch the connections (how are you doing that?)

I have a SPV M600 with Wifi and when I switch off wifi and then access PIE, it automatically knows to connect via GPRS.

Are you saying I have to manually select t-mobile again? From reading various forums i thought there was a bug with PIE that surfaced when you assign a static ip address in the wifi settings. This bug affected the DNS query when connecting through T-mobile and resulted in a 2 min wait whilst PIE tries to find the correct IP.

[Guest flashflash]

The main reason people are reluctant to post answers to wifi problems is that there are so many links in a successful solution... any one of them can be wrong and it doesnt work.

The simplest way is to try it without changing anything.If that doesnt work then remove all security on the router (WEP/WPA, MAC FIltering, Hide SSID Broadcast) and try it again. If that doesnt work, then try a different channel on the router.

Assuming you have actually got a connection after the above, WPA can prove problematic with WM5 so I would try WEP 128bit encryption. I would also use MAC filtering (remember that your network card has a different mac code to the device) and leave the SSID broadcast ON.

I have tried various solutions suggested from many forums, none of them work for me. My M600 connects to my router (DHCP IP assigned) with WPA PSK no problem.

The Vario connects to the router but reports a weird IP address so doesn't actually fully connect. Now when I assign a IP address myself and DNS, the vario connects immediately and i get full wifi speed internet access and network access. However, when i disconnect the wifi, the T-mobile connection has a DNS problem and takes about 2 mins+ to resolve an IP address. This has been highlighted in many forums as a bug of PIE.

As far as encryption, thats fine. I can connect with a fixed IP with WPA PSK no problem.

Just to make sure that the encryption is not affecting anything else, i have tried connecting with a dynamic IP without any encryption on both a BT router and 3com. Both fail to receive a valid IP address from the routers DHCP server.

So im baffled as how I can use WIFI and then switch back to T-moble without removing all the IP and DNS setting of the WIFI.

It has been suggested by some forums that the IP assigned by the DHCP server is somehow converted into a hex number which is causing a problem with the phone's network card.

[Guest MikeWard1701]

Hi Mike, thanks for your response. So you have set up your wife connection with a static ip, DNS etc. When turn off the wifi you switch the connections (how are you doing that?)

I have a SPV M600 with Wifi and when I switch off wifi and then access PIE, it automatically knows to connect via GPRS.

Are you saying I have to manually select t-mobile again? From reading various forums i thought there was a bug with PIE that surfaced when you assign a static ip address in the wifi settings. This bug affected the DNS query when connecting through T-mobile and resulted in a 2 min wait whilst PIE tries to find the correct IP.

Yep, whenever I want to use the GPRS I have to turn off WiFi, then change the Select Networks.

Start > Settings > Connections tab > Connections > Advanced tab > Select Networks.

Mike

[Guest MikeWard1701]

Hi Mike, thanks for your response. So you have set up your wife connection with a static ip, DNS etc. When turn off the wifi you switch the connections (how are you doing that?)

I have a SPV M600 with Wifi and when I switch off wifi and then access PIE, it automatically knows to connect via GPRS.

Are you saying I have to manually select t-mobile again? From reading various forums i thought there was a bug with PIE that surfaced when you assign a static ip address in the wifi settings. This bug affected the DNS query when connecting through T-mobile and resulted in a 2 min wait whilst PIE tries to find the correct IP.

Yep, each time you want to switch which connection your internet access uses you have to change the Select Networks settings in Settings > Connections tab > Connections > Advanced tab > Select Networks.

[Guest flashflash]

Yep, each time you want to switch which connection your internet access uses you have to change the Select Networks settings in Settings > Connections tab > Connections > Advanced tab > Select Networks.

OK, OK, that way works. however, i was messing around with the Network adapters and changed adapter to connect to work instead of internet. Now, when I connect to WIFI (Static IP, DNS) PIE automatically disconnects T-mobile and connects to the IEEE 802.bg adapter and I get internet and network access. Then when i turn off Wifi and open PIE it automatically connects to T-mobile without me selecting anything!!

I'm sure i have tried this before and it never worked. The only difference being under the T-mobile setting I am not using an DHCP assigned DNS, I have fixed it to 4.2.2.1 as per previous posts on this forum. I'm wondering if that cured my problem since the T-mobile connection can now resolve addresses quickly without the 2 min wait!! :) :D :P

Edited December 5, 2006 by flashflash

[Guest]

So are all you people really having this problem as well?

I use wifi with DHCP assignation accross 3 different wireless networks including my home network regularly and they all work fine. Your problem lies elsewhere I feel.

[Guest flashflash]

I use wifi with DHCP assignation accross 3 different wireless networks including my home network regularly and they all work fine. Your problem lies elsewhere I feel.

To be honest, i have spent hours trying to resolve the DHCP problem with still no luck. I have tried 2 different routers with both the same result. I can not connect to a wifi network using DHCP. I can only connect by using a static ip. I have tried both routers with out encryption and both don't work. My M600 connects without a problem and with the same settings except orange rather than t-mobile. So it must be a software problem.

[Guest girvaw]

Hi,

I have also recently purchased a T-mobile MDA vario ii. Like seemingly many others, I am having major difficulties in connecting to my wireless router - a La Fonera 802.11 b/g device.

The router has two channels. A public and a private channel. The MDA can connect to the public channel without problem. It will not however connect to the encrypted private channel. It indicates that it is connecting to the channel, but will not complete the connection.

I have tried everything under the sun - including the DJVW_HTC_Wizard_Optimizer_2_1_.0.cab patch, but nothing seems to make a difference.

Has anybody had any success connecting an MDA to a La Fonera router? I'm a complete novice when it comes to networks, so any help would be appreciated.

Regards

[Guest Confucious]

Why on earth are any of yiou using WiFi if you have W'n'W with 3G (let alone 3.5G!) I noticed no speed improvements but the drain on battery is horiffic!

Anyway, back to the question, what sort of encription are you using? Is the SSID visible? More information is needed to diagnose the problem (at least for me!)

[Guest Confucious]

Why on earth are any of yiou using WiFi if you have W'n'W with 3G (let alone 3.5G!) I noticed no speed improvements but the drain on battery is horiffic!

Anyway, back to the question, what sort of encription are you using? Is the SSID visible? More information is needed to diagnose the problem (at least for me!)

[Guest girvaw]

Why on earth are any of yiou using WiFi if you have W'n'W with 3G (let alone 3.5G!) I noticed no speed improvements but the drain on battery is horiffic!

Anyway, back to the question, what sort of encription are you using? Is the SSID visible? More information is needed to diagnose the problem (at least for me!)

Hi Confucious,

The encryption is TKIP and the authentication is WPA-PSK. My desktop connects seamlessly to the router using the same parameters (and network key).

The only reference that I can see to SSID is in the Wireless LAN application, where the SSID and BSSID parameters are blank.

Hope this helps. Cheers.

[Guest wilkhaven]

I've got a Vario II which connects to my Wireless router, also a BT Home Hub, using WEP encryption. I'm no expert on this networking stuff but have no problems at all with the connections.

I have set the router to use the same IP address for the mobile whenever it connects. I also use the BB Connect blackberry email on the Vario II.

I have just run a test by turning on WiFi. Within a few seconds it connects to my home network, and I am able to browse the web. I know this is going through the router as the Phone is still connected to the Blackberry connection. I then turn off the wireless and as soon as I go on to the net through PIE it disconnects the blackberry connection, connects through the T-Mobile fata connection and finds the page I asked for, all within a few seconds.

The only settings I have changed on the phone is to enter the details of the home Wireless network and the WEP key.

[Guest jimbouk]

Why on earth are any of yiou using WiFi if you have W'n'W with 3G (let alone 3.5G!) I noticed no speed improvements but the drain on battery is horiffic!

Anyway, back to the question, what sort of encription are you using? Is the SSID visible? More information is needed to diagnose the problem (at least for me!)

With a home broadband connection currently at approx 4mb and wifi running at 54mb, wifi is so much faster than 3g for me.