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Guest goochy1
Posted
Please can someone explain what a Symbian based mobile phone is ???

No idea...but i saw it on somebodies Gamertag n Xbox Live

Guest kame1986
Posted

wow nice fast responce, not the answer i was looking for though ;)

and curse u for having xbox live ! ....meh what am i saying. i dont play games that often

Guest kame1986
Posted

i did try that and still not 100% understood.

this is what i think.

a Symbian phone is basically a PocketPC WM5 phone but is actually just a copy of the software but changed a lil.

Guest Samsonite
Posted
i did try that and still not 100% understood.

this is what i think.

a Symbian phone is basically a PocketPC WM5 phone but is actually just a copy of the software but changed a lil.

errr no.

In a nutshell, an operating system is a layer of 'software' that allows the user to access the features of the phone such as making calls, putting things in memory etc.

Symbian is a type of operating system and so is Windows Mobile. They are different. Very.

Guest kame1986
Posted

been looking up Symbien, ALOT, and yeah i understand what ya say now.

Got any screenshots of a Symbian OS ???

Guest yrreP
Posted

As you work in an Orange store, why don't you grab an N73, N95, E65, etc. and find out!

;)

Guest kame1986
Posted

seen those phones up and going all the time. didnt relise it was a "Symbian" OS.

Just always looked at it as software on the phone.

Posted
didnt relise it was a "Symbian" OS.

Just always looked at it as software on the phone.

Don't Orange teach you things like this?

Would be pretty useful imo.

Guest Monolithix (MVP)
Posted
Just always looked at it as software on the phone.

Well thats exactly it, the OS on a phone is what you see on the screen when using it. In the case of Symbian its more powerful than the bog standard stuff you get on a V3 RAZR, for example. It lets you install additional applications, gives a richer web and messaging experience over simpler phones, and indeed it is these features which contibute to a Symbian handset being defined as a smartphone. Windows Mobile fits in here as well, however as a far more powerful OS again, imho. In particular as a development platform for addtional applications and customisations.

Guest kame1986
Posted

when ya sell phones ude be surprised that most people dont ask if u can do extra things on the phones...............plus if u start talking about these extra things it scares the customers off. !!

the only time ive got to talk about smartphones etc is to business people.

well thx to this site i have gained more knowledge ;)

Guest Disco Stu
Posted

Working in a smallish accountancy practice, that doesn't surprise me at all.

Although people often take an interest in my fancy phones they never seem to grasp how useful Windows Smartphones could be to them. It all seems too much like rocket science and they say they just want to make calls and send obscene text messages to their friends !

I've seen the odd WinMo device in IT companies but have yet to see any SMEs using them company-wide.

Guest kame1986
Posted

im still learning the jargain so give me time lads.... SME's ???

ahh gotta get to bed, gf is already annoyed wif me cos i got the damn SPV M700 and havnt stopped talking bout it

Guest Monolithix (MVP)
Posted

SME = Small to Medium Enterprise.

Guest clv101
Posted
Windows Mobile fits in here as well, however as a far more powerful OS again, imho. In particular as a development platform for addtional applications and customisations.

Is Windows Mobile a far more powerful OS than Symbian? I don't see it TBH.

Guest Monolithix (MVP)
Posted

Depends on your point of view. As a development platform i see WM as a the more superior OS (although i'll admit i have no experience in development for Symbian, can't get much easier than WM and the .NET CF though).

Guest The Doctor
Posted (edited)

With respect to phone OS's, EVERY phone has an OS. Otherwise we'd have to use AT Commands via the bootloader to make calls (yes, even bog standard phones have a bootloader) :rolleyes:

The OS is basically a huge software input method for the user. It simplifies the process of using the phone and also gives access to hardware functions such as the camera, the loudspeaker for playing MP3's etc.

For example, to make a phone call, the phone itself has to do alot more than enter an number and push the green button. On a HTC Hermes, the following happens when you make a phone call:

AT+CFUN=1

AT+CPIN=1234

AT+CREG=2

AT+COPS=0

ATD+XXXXXXXXXXX

Where 1234 is your SIM PIN and XXXXXXXXXXX is the phone number your dialing (inc. international code)

This is even BEFORE the phone start to communicate with the network :P The OS hides all this behind a graphical interface designed, as mentioned before, to simplify the use of the phone.

Most phones ship with a proprietary OS. Meaning that it's a closed development platform and the OS itself cannot be expanded. OS's like WM and Symbian however DO have the ability to be expanded through third party applications etc and in some cases (especially WM) the OS of the phone can be upgraded to enable/add new features and functionality (AKU2 and push email for instance), hence the term 'smart' devices.

Phil

[EDIT: Oh dear, I've written an essay again :D]

Edited by The Doctor
Guest mikeeey
Posted (edited)

windows mobile you can usually connect to your computer easier than a symbian phone, most symbian phones don't have usb, they have some nokia charger>usb thing.

also with windows phones you can install more apps and games, and you can do upgrades on windows phones. (wm5 to wm6 for example)

i like windows phone a lot more just for those reasons.

windows and symbian kinda remind me of windows and apple, windows always has more things you can install.

with most symbian phones your pretty much stuck with what you got when you bought the phone, and if you can install something, there isnt too much to install

Edited by mikeeey
Guest The Doctor
Posted (edited)
i like windows phone a lot more just for those reasons.

That and the fact you can run more than 2 apps at a time without the OS giving up on you and crashing :P

Having said that, Symbian sounds more like Windows than Mac OS X :rolleyes:

Phil

Edited by The Doctor
Guest mikeeey
Posted
That and the fact you can run more than 2 apps at a time without the OS giving up on you and crashing :P

Having said that, Symbian sounds more like Windows than Mac OS X :rolleyes:

Phil

lol then what does windows sound like?

Guest The Doctor
Posted
lol then what does windows sound like?

:rolleyes: Sorry i could resist biting at that Apple comment :P

Maybe I should make things a bit clearer :D

Windows Mobile for SP = Vista - Relatively newer platform, some apps have support for it, some apps don't, sometimes crashes but otherwise all very well and good

Windows Mobile for PPC = XP - Older platform, greater number of users, more apps have support for it, crashes occasionally

Symbian = Windows ME, enough said there :D

Linux for mobile devices = Well, Linux :rolleyes:

Phil

Guest mikeeey
Posted (edited)
:rolleyes: Sorry i could resist biting at that Apple comment :P

Maybe I should make things a bit clearer :D

Windows Mobile for SP = Vista - Relatively newer platform, some apps have support for it, some apps don't, sometimes crashes but otherwise all very well and good

Windows Mobile for PPC = XP - Older platform, greater number of users, more apps have support for it, crashes occasionally

Symbian = Windows ME, enough said there :D

Linux for mobile devices = Well, Linux :rolleyes:

Phil

lol.

ive never actually seen linux on a device. perhaps il look on youtube. id like to see it in action. what are these devices called? and what provider are they for?

EDIT: well from what im seeing, linux is what most motorola phones use? is the motorola software actually linux software? or is the software on motorola phones and linux on motorola phones 2 different things?

Edited by mikeeey
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Guest The Doctor
Posted
lol.

ive never actually seen linux on a device. perhaps il look on youtube. id like to see it in action. what are these devices called? and what provider are they for?

EDIT: well from what im seeing, linux is what most motorola phones use? is the motorola software actually linux software? or is the software on motorola phones and linux on motorola phones 2 different things?

Generally motorola phones use the Motorola Proprietary OS, there have been a number of motorola phones that come with Linux embedded but mostly released in japan etc however, only think one made it over here to the UK...

There are versions of linux that have been developed for various HTC PDA's, examples that spring to mind are the Himalaya and the Universal. Over at xda-devs, theyre porting linux to the Hermes as we speak :rolleyes:

Phil

Guest mikeeey
Posted
Generally motorola phones use the Motorola Proprietary OS, there have been a number of motorola phones that come with Linux embedded but mostly released in japan etc however, only think one made it over here to the UK...

There are versions of linux that have been developed for various HTC PDA's, examples that spring to mind are the Himalaya and the Universal. Over at xda-devs, theyre porting linux to the Hermes as we speak :rolleyes:

Phil

really? i dont understand why u would wanna put an operating system on the herems that doesnt support 3rd party apps tho.

do you know of somewhere where i could see a screenshot or anything of what the linux operating system looks like?

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