Goodbye E650

[Guest david_inuk]

Having used, or should that be attempted to use, the E650 for almost two months now, I have now given up on it.

Despite trying my hardest to make friends with it, it refused to play along. I even treated it to a speed boost courtesy of Tornado Power Control, along with some other add ons including Pauls Orange de-brander, but the little blighter continued to be extremely unwilling to do anything for me with alacrity.

Each time I called upon it, it demanded that I carry out numerous keypresses, even for simple tasks, and worse still, it was always so very reluctant to do any work at all, and carried out all my tasks with amazingly slothlike qualities.

So reluctantly, it's goodbye E650 and hello again to my super fast, although a little dated and somewhat bulky and wifi-less, Treo 650.

Now I can get my work done again!

Dear, dear Palm Inc. Where on earth have you gone wrong? Why are you not releasing decent phones any longer?

[Guest ...]

Sounds like you are annoyed about Windoze Mobile, but not about the E650 itself. :)

But I have to agree about the bad performance you complained and would like to know if this is just an E650 issue or does this appear to all Windows Mobile based devices which are powered by an OMAP 850?

By the way: the only reason why I would give my S710 away is the loose keyboard. I hope it will not break off someday. <_<

Edited August 22, 2007 by ...

[Guest david_inuk]

Sounds like you are annoyed about Windoze Mobile, but not about the E650 itself. :)

But I have to agree about the bad performance you complained and would like to know if this is just an E650 issue or does this appear to all Windows Mobile based devices which are powered by an OMAP 850?

By the way: the only reason why I would give my S710 away is the loose keyboard. I hope it will not break off someday. <_<

Well, the phone is nothing without the installed OS.

If the engine doesn't work, the shiny sports car goes nowhere.

The thing which I dont get, is how could HTC have released such a sluggish unit? Surely their testers screeched with frustration at the time it takes to carry out even simple tasks? And howcome all reviewers almost forgive the device for it's sluggishness!! My review would say, No matter how clever and fancy this phone is, dont buy it unless you like waiting for ages for absolutely everything - even from a clean boot! Boot time takes forever, as does releasing the keylock, sending an sms, everything takes around 20 times as long as it does on any other mobile. If your computer was as sluggish as this phone, you'd be shopping for a new one!

The phone is UNUSEABLE! DONT BUY IT!!! Unless you have plenty spare time!

I had the unfortunate experience of setting up a HTC Touch for a friend. If only I had waited a while before upgrading!

[Guest Urs]

Flame bait... :)

[Guest hmoner]

...The phone is UNUSEABLE! DONT BUY IT!!! Unless you have plenty spare time! I had the unfortunate experience of setting up a HTC Touch for a friend. If only I had waited a while before upgrading!

You had bad luck, I love my HTC S710

[Guest colonel_butt]

the HTC S710 is awesome. Much better then my old s60 phones.

I find it easy to use. What the hell were you trying to do with it ????????

Edited August 24, 2007 by colonel_butt

[Guest david_inuk]

the HTC S710 is awesome. Much better then my old s60 phones.

I find it easy to use. What the hell were you trying to do with it ????????

Send text messages - takes forever only to switch the screen around!!

Switch between inbox and outbox - needed 768 keypresses, and phone isn't even intuitive enough to jump to the inbox when opening a new sms from the homescreen!

Work with excel and word documents - one needs to press so many buttons only to start editing a document and when it finally allows you to edit, it is so very clumsy and painful to carry out even simple edits. And then to top it all, it always wants to save your document as a new filename!!!! Why the hell would I want to do that!!!!!!????

And of course there's no way to cut and paste!! The bolt ons available to fix this are unweildy and dont work where they are needed most - in Word and Excel, and did I mention that all the add ons slow an already slow phone down to a crawl.

And the keyboard is extremly difficult to use (no I dont have large mitts!), and the darned shiny blue backlight won't switch off despite me turning it off a billion times in the power settings (yes I know about the light meter too but it made no difference)

I could go on and on.

From the response to my post, it seems that if one's previous phone wasnt very functional, then this phone would b a decent upgrade. But for me, coming from a very powerful and easy to use Treo 650, this E650 was a step into the future but with manacled hands and feet. And no it was not my intention to start a flame war! I was merely expressing my frustrations at a waste of an upgrade!

[Guest maclondon]

i think most of these issues are smartphoens in general

ive have 2 S60 phones

and belive me windoze M6 is a joy in comparison

even the powerhose N95 is SO SLOW to do anything it drives me nuts.

the contacts app on S60 is laughable.

the t9 is useless in comparision

and its not even used for searching contacts

and if you have a contact with an address you have to EDIT it to read the full address

shocking

oh and it takes abotu 30 seconds to take a picture

which is almost always out of focus!!

oh and open more than one app and it crashes

i think you are wanting a jesus phone ;)

my old xda exec had a way faster processor but was just as slow as the S710

that said it played divx's no problemo

the only time i have found my s710 sluggish is when im using windows media player for mp3 playback

and trying to do other things ... then it grinds a bit.

[Guest david_inuk]

i think you are wanting a jesus phone ;)

I have such a phone!

I've gone back to my Treo 650, a phone which does absolutely everything, including playing XVID movies and it does everything quickly! Who needs multitasking on a mobile??? It's not as if one can switch between open windows!

The only thing wrong with my Treo is that it is somewhat large, and has a somewhat flaky bluetooth connection, and I now miss the wifi connection which I enjoyed with the E650.

I am no anti Microsoft guy, but I am shocked that they are selling what seems to be an inferior product (compared to the Palm platform), yet they are taking over the market!

How can Palm be losing so much ground to a clearly inferior product? And why haven't they released a decent upgrade to their Treo range (i.e. one which keeps the design, but reduces it's bulkiness and gives it wifi?) They seem to be asleep at the wheel, and allowing the new kids on the block to steal the show from them. They used to be the leaders in handheld devices!

If I was one of their shareholders, I'd be demanding answers.

[Guest ICQ_Eagle]

I've gone back to my Treo 650, a phone which does absolutely everything, including playing XVID movies and it does everything quickly! Who needs multitasking on a mobile??? It's not as if one can switch between open windows!

Huh? Of course you can switch! A phone loaded with features and tons of software (my 2 GB MicroSD is almost full) would be totally useless without multitasking.

[Guest olly_k]

Huh? Of course you can switch! A phone loaded with features and tons of software (my 2 GB MicroSD is almost full) would be totally useless without multitasking.

I am also dissapointed by the speed of this device. Compared to my C600 it is rather slow. Too early to say if I am keeping it though.

[Guest futte2507]

Hi David

I was the owner of a Nokia N93 and before that lots of Nokia and some Sony Ericsson, and even though my Nokia N6230 (NOT i model) was the fastest phone i've used and i really loved it, it just didn't cut it for my nerdy needs. That is why i bought a N93 at that time because it just had it all. Then er realized that even though it had 3.2 mpixel camera, I didn't used it that much because my 10 Mpixel Digital Camera takes so much better pictures, and like maclondon pointed out, it takes so long to take the picture with my S60 mobile, that the moments always lost, when you get the dame thing running. Anyway I still think N93 is a nice phone, and with the cool internet browser and wifi connection i almost had. But then S710 came around, a little nice phone with QWERTY keyboard, I wished it was a nokia for some time, but then i saw all the things you could do with Windows Mobile, with the regeditor the modifications you can do to this phone is endless, just as it is on a windows pc. Maybe the OS is slow, but it just get outweighed by the 3rd party software available to the Windows Mobile OS, and THATS why Windows Mobile based phones will win in the end.

I seen and tried the same thing so many times, tried to be a mac user, i loved my mac and mac os the year i used it but... then it came to me again and again, you can't play the games you want, you can't change the fact that windows can be hacked and modifyed in so many ways, windows is the most used OS in the world so the amount of software available will always be the largest.

Untill the day comes and open source OS in phones, is a reallity in a lot of phones world wide, we will never see this change because people want a phone that can do anything and they will not wait for the OS developer make it so.

Edited August 27, 2007 by futte2507