Tytn II for Iphone.

[Guest joemailey]

Hey,

I traded my Tytn II for an Apple Iphone last week.

Y?

Well the tytn II's size and wieght got bit annoying for me.

I Don't/Didn't use the Keyboard.

The GPS is replaceable with another unit, considering I will only use it in my car anyway(dn't need the added functionality in my phone).

I didn't really use the E-mail function on it either. (Free upgrade was fun thou)

Iphone(my first ever apple product, I'm not fan of whole itunes/apple thing.)

At first i was going to get SE phone, Just because i need basic phone.

But decided i wanted a phone to store my music on, (Tytn II + Archos Gemini MP3 = Heavey coat.)

MAte of mine told me i should just buy an Iphone(never entered my head as i'm not an apple fan). But hey couldn't hurt got £310 for Tytn II on ebay.

So straight swap.(althou friend sent me it from the states an dwon't take my money so its free for me)

Unlocked it and upgrade to 1.1.3 firmware.

Multi SMS now to.

Features i like.

Touch screen is alot better than the Tytn II.

Looks a lot nicer.

It flows a lot smoother.

Threaded SMS is nice( I had this on the Tytn II using third party app worked ok, but refresh annoyed me after a while)

Using it as my mp3 so Iphone only no 2 things doing one job.~( Tytn II had 6GB memory card didnt like using it for music was slower and annoying)

One feature i like didn't notice until few days ago is:

It fades out the music when i recieve a text i can hear the new sms sound.

Call comes in i just push we mic button pick it up talk, call ends i just hit button again music is back.

That is useful as i walk + bus to work. Always missed SMS's and Phone calls.

Guess if you need basic nice working fone. Iphone is it.

Tytn II is great gadget but i just got bored/fed up/annoyed with it.

Don't slaughter me. Just saying Iphone is better for me but the Tytn II is much better phone/pda.

Edited January 29, 2008 by joemailey

[Guest Alkali]

I own both and cannot really say which is greater phone.One thing is for sure for stylish people iphone is a must have but for serious hard work the tytn ii beats anything around!

[Guest joemailey]

Thats true,

I don't need a work phone :)

Just need normal mobile i guess, Did like my Tytn II.

Just like Iphone more for what i actually need it for if you know what i mean.

Personal use not business :D

[Guest Webreaper]

Amusing thing about the iPhone is that people always seem to make out it's got amazing features which are unheard of on any other handset. In particular I'm intrigued at your comments about using the iPhone as an mp3 player. I have my music on an 8GB card on my Kaiser, and listen to it with a pair of Shure SE210s. Sounds great, it's not 'slow' at all. But in particular I don't get your comments about missed calls - I use MortPlayer and when somebody calls, the music pauses and then restarts automatically after the call ends (I believe WMP does this too). When somebody SMSes me I hear it too (although most times I keep the phone on vibrate).

Most odd thing about this post is this: why did you buy a Kaiser (which, let's face it, is a pretty expensive handset) if you weren't going to use GPS, email or the keyboard?

[Guest hotphil]

They're very different devices. And I wouldn't buy an iPhone even for the music playing capabilities - can't plug my Shures in to an iPhone you see.... ;-)

[Guest WearTheFoxHat]

I think the iPhone must be similar to having a WAG as a girlfriend/wife. You know it looks good and everyone good "ooooh I like that" ... but they all soon realise that there is no substance at all!

[Guest hotphil]

That has very much made me smile!

[Guest WearTheFoxHat]

That has very much made me smile!

heheh cheers! Tis true though!

[Guest Loconinja]

How are you guys connecting your Shures to your Kaiser? Are you using an adaptor, or have you doctored the cable?

I have the HTC ExtUSB to 3.5m phono + USB adaptor, but i still find it a bit bulky. I'm tempted to buy some Shures and adapt the cable with the ExtUSB connector from one of my sets of HTC 'phones.

[Guest WearTheFoxHat]

I'm using the miniUSB & 3.5mm adaptor. Yeah its a bit bulky, but does the trick. I don't really want to go chopping up a pair of £100+ earphones just so they work on just one device.

[Guest Webreaper]

How are you guys connecting your Shures to your Kaiser? Are you using an adaptor, or have you doctored the cable?

I use an HTC RC-W100 remote. I specifically chose the model of Shures I bought to ensure they had the split cable so I wouldn't end up with 2m of wire hanging around my knees. It works a treat.

[Guest Loconinja]

I use an HTC RC-W100 remote. I specifically chose the model of Shures I bought to ensure they had the split cable so I wouldn't end up with 2m of wire hanging around my knees. It works a treat.

That looks like the perfect solution, as it means you keep a mic too. I'd not seen the RC-W100 before. Just ordered one and a set of Shure SE210s.

Thanks!

[Guest Webreaper]

That looks like the perfect solution, as it means you keep a mic too. I'd not seen the RC-W100 before. Just ordered one and a set of Shure SE210s.

Cool. I'll see you later on this afternoon by the coffee machine. :)

[Guest Loconinja]

Cool. I'll see you later on this afternoon by the coffee machine. :)

It turns out that WebReaper and I work in the same office, but we didn't know that until an hour ago! Small world.

[Guest WearTheFoxHat]

Question is ... now you can scorn each other for spending all your working day on the tinternet :)

[Guest lozzd]

It turns out that WebReaper and I work in the same office, but we didn't know that until an hour ago! Small world.

Haha! Definitely small world. Excellent stuff.

Didn't realise the HTC remote had a mic in too.. That's handy. I was tempted to get one but now I think I will.

[Guest lozzd]

Where's the cheapest place to buy one of those doohickys. I read something about a discount code somewhere?

[Guest Webreaper]

I got mine for a tenner from Expansys.

[Guest Loconinja]

I got mine for a tenner from Expansys.

A tenner? It appears to be £25.95:

http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?partner=modaco&i=148542

That's the one, isn't it? I've ordered one anyway; should arrive today.

[Guest Macker1973]

Most odd thing about this post is this: why did you buy a Kaiser (which, let's face it, is a pretty expensive handset) if you weren't going to use GPS, email or the keyboard?

The iphone is also an expensive piece of kit and I also switched to an iphone for the simple reason that its not sluggish. I think what lets the Kaiser down is the more basic phone features and I feel sound quality is poor. The speaker is poorly positioned and the MS bluetooth stack is not the best or most compatible. Try trading pics, videos etc with other brands of phones. GPS units are pretty inexpensive now and generally have larger screens than the Kaiser. Also yahoo mail now give free push email accounts to iPhone users which works very well. Possibly this works on windows mobile to, though on the iPhone you can view full html emails. What I really like about yahoo mail is if you wish to register for something you can use an email alias get the registration email you want then delete the alias removing large amounts of junk mail.

[Guest Webreaper]

A tenner? It appears to be £25.95:

http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?partner=modaco&i=148542

That's the one, isn't it? I've ordered one anyway; should arrive today.

I think I got mine either with the £10 off voucher from Expansys (which I got after buying my Kaiser) or using the "£10 off when you pay by paypal". It might have been £15 though.

[Guest Webreaper]

The iphone is also an expensive piece of kit and I also switched to an iphone for the simple reason that its not sluggish. I think what lets the Kaiser down is the more basic phone features and I feel sound quality is poor. The speaker is poorly positioned and the MS bluetooth stack is not the best or most compatible. Try trading pics, videos etc with other brands of phones. GPS units are pretty inexpensive now and generally have larger screens than the Kaiser. Also yahoo mail now give free push email accounts to iPhone users which works very well. Possibly this works on windows mobile to, though on the iPhone you can view full html emails. What I really like about yahoo mail is if you wish to register for something you can use an email alias get the registration email you want then delete the alias removing large amounts of junk mail.

To answer your points:

1. My kaiser isn't sluggish (that I've noticed). But the iPhone is slicker, agreed.

2. Sound quality on the Kaiser is not poor - you just get better standard phones with the iPod. Try the Kaiser with some Shures and you'll see it's very good.

3. Speaker position - couldn't care less, I rarely use it.

4. Bluetooth stack - it works for me, but I don't really use it. If I want to trade pics etc with other brands of phones it works fine, but usually I email them.

5. GPS unit + phone is still pricier than my Kaiser and I prefer an all-in-one device. I'm not going to carry a GPS unit in my pocket, and it's amazing how useful it is to have googlemaps + GPS with you at all times.

6. Yahoo email? <spit> :) I have my own domain with an email provider and all my mail runs through a MailFoundry so I get almost no spam at all. If I want push mail I can set that up (but can't really see the point) and I can view full HTML mails on my Kaiser (or would do, but I have it set to plain-text as I absolutely HATE html mail with a vengance. :D

[Guest Macker1973]

To answer your points:

1. My kaiser isn't sluggish (that I've noticed). But the iPhone is slicker, agreed.

A lot of people have noticed and you can see the comments on the petition site.

2. Sound quality on the Kaiser is not poor - you just get better standard phones with the iPod. Try the Kaiser with some Shures and you'll see it's very good.

matter of opinion I suppose though out of the box iPhone with or without headphones wins.

3. Speaker position - couldn't care less, I rarely use it.

I used to set mine down on the desk beside me obviously face up. The sound becomes muffled however I do think the vibrate is better on the Kaiser.

4. Bluetooth stack - it works for me, but I don't really use it. If I want to trade pics etc with other brands of phones it works fine, but usually I email them.

I use mine with a handsfree sat nav, though it has problems reconnecting automatically, sat navs such as my garmin 310 and many hands free kits do not pick up contacts yet they do from a 50 quid nokia.

5. GPS unit + phone is still pricier than my Kaiser and I prefer an all-in-one device. I'm not going to carry a GPS unit in my pocket, and it's amazing how useful it is to have googlemaps + GPS with you at all times.

All in one device is useful. Especially if u use it for walking, the sale of my Kaiser raised enough to buy a iPhone and sat nav (with a deal from my car insurance) and I only use sat nav in my car. Remember buying a sat nav on ebay is not much more expensive than buying sat nav software for the Kaiser. Though car thieves are now looking for sat nav units so Kaiser better in that regard only, as you always take our phone with you.

6. Yahoo email? :) I have my own domain with an email provider and all my mail runs through a MailFoundry so I get almost no spam at all. If I want push mail I can set that up (but can't really see the point) and I can view full HTML mails on my Kaiser (or would do, but I have it set to plain-text as I absolutely HATE html mail with a vengance. :D

That can be set up easily on the iPhone also and has been improved in the 1.1.3 update.

[Guest Boinng]

The iphone is also an expensive piece of kit and I also switched to an iphone for the simple reason that its not sluggish. I think what lets the Kaiser down is the more basic phone features and I feel sound quality is poor.

I can't agree with that at all - for the most part the speed is fine, and the "more basic" phone features work well. I've not had any problem with the sound quality at all, it's easily on a par with the Sony Ericsson's I've had in the past.

The speaker is poorly positioned

I've seen you make this point in other threads, and never really understood it - the speaker is on the back, which in all fairness is pretty much where every other speaker on every other phone is. It makes sense to put it there, there's no room on the front.

and the MS bluetooth stack is not the best or most compatible. Try trading pics, videos etc with other brands of phones.

Another odd comment, partly because the bluetooth is fine - I've beamed and received files from my friends' phones with no problem - and partly because unless I'm mistaken, the Iphone doesn't support file transfer by bluetooth at all - so this is a little like saying you swapped your car for a motorbike, because the car didn't have enough wheels...

GPS units are pretty inexpensive now and generally have larger screens than the Kaiser.

But the Kaiser's screen is still quite adequate for car use, and the fact that you're guaranteed to have it with you anywhere is a major plus point. Also, define "inexpensive" - dedicated units may be cheap in comparison to an Iphone (plus contract) but they're relatively poor value compared to a Kaiser.

Also yahoo mail now give free push email accounts to iPhone users which works very well.

My Kaiser works seamlessly with my gmail, and also has native compatibility with my company's exchange server, meaning not only email but appointments and tasks can be pushed straight to me - that's better than Yahoo mail.

though on the iPhone you can view full html emails.

Like the poster above, I can't stand HTML email. If I could, I'd disable the partial HTML support my Kaiser has.