Guest tsutton Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Theres also an extra row of keys compared to the tytn2 Yep, which are the numbers. That will make typing far easier!! Like most of you here, I too have 18 months contact with T-Mobile and I can't wait for it to expire so I can get this sexy phone. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Boinng Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 My Vodafone contract is up in November, by which time I suspect they'll have this badged up as the V1715 or whatever... I'm happy to stick with the Kaiser until they're able to offer this cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CongoJoe Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Does anyone have a spec comparison with the sony XPERIA X1 not sure whether to purchase HTC Raphael or the xperia X1 .......help Screen X1 = 3" 800x480 V4 = 2.8" 640x480 Apart from that theyre pretty similar. Both are gpu accelerated, both have hsupa, i believe both use the qualcom 520mhz cpu. According to this the x1 is slightly taller but weighs less. Personally i prefer the HTCs interface. X1 white paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Syphon Filter Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 These devices cant land soon enough as far as I am concerned. The X1 looks great and the additional screen real estate could make it a winner. Other than that...they're pretty much the same from what I can see. Tough call, wait until the X1 lands or just go for the HTC. @Paul: When do you think you will manage to get some hands on time with this new HTC device? Can't wait for some hands on opinions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CongoJoe Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 I think price will be the decider. I cant see many of us getting the X1 for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shootydogthing Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Screen X1 = 3" 800x480 V4 = 2.8" 640x480 Apart from that theyre pretty similar. Both are gpu accelerated, both have hsupa, i believe both use the qualcom 520mhz cpu. According to this the x1 is slightly taller but weighs less. Personally i prefer the HTCs interface. X1 white paper The Raphael has Tv-Out, don't think the X1 has that... and it has the accelrometer. And I also took my contract out in January :D I might have been able to make up the difference of an ebay of my kaiser, but I need a new computer now too and that's more urgent. DAMNIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Syphon Filter Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 I think price will be the decider. I cant see many of us getting the X1 for free. Well, I'm still well within my contract so I think I'll be getting this offline (as I did with my TyTN II). I'll probably sell my TyTN II on ebay or something and get the Raphael (Touch Pro?) offline (any chance of a group buy from expansys or something?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Boinng Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 I think price will be the decider. I cant see many of us getting the X1 for free. Very true. SE are obviously gunning for the "premium" market with the X1, leveraging their much more recognised brand name, posh metal casing etc. It'll be pricier than the HTC branded version of the Raphael, let alone the operator branded versions like the Vario IV etc. My branded "V1615" was a £50 upgrade on Vodafone and the Raphael might just possibly be the same; the X1 will never be pitched at that level even assuming Voda carry it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest penguin Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 1350mAh battery = win It'll look quite fat as it's nearly as thick as the Vario III but is smaller in other dimensions, but let it be said... I WANT ONE NOW! :D P I WANT ONE NOW TOO!! Good job my contract ends in september! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 I should have my Diamond shortly, doing everything I can to get a Raphael ASAP! P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andrewkeith5 Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 When this finally arrives in the UK, I'll be finally waving goodbye to orange. Woohoo! Congratulations! Join the (rather massive now) club! I'd be intersted in a group buy....but otherwise I'll probably be getting one around the end of the year...The main problem I have is that most of my money at the moment is being ploughed into going to uni in september... oh well:D I'd personally only even consider the X1 if it didnt have sony ericsson propiertary stuff all over it, like memory stick mainly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 SIM free group buy is definitely an option! I'm lining it up already :D P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Xperia X1 is microSD btw... P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nuttyphilt Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 (edited) And I think the X1 has a 3.5mm headphone output whereas the Raphael doesn't. I think it's going to be the Raphael for me... BTW, where's the info about the 1350mah battery coming from? I see it in the first post but I don't see it referenced anywhere else... :D Edited May 29, 2008 by nuttyphilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest richair Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 That was quicker than expected, the rise of the Raphael. Any sign of the HTC Titanium on the horizon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Menneisyys Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 i'm also worried about internal storage - i can't stand the stuff, especially when you can't upgrade it with memory cards. i can't stand being restricted to a certain amount of memory (a la iphone), and like to be able to organise my stuff onto different memory cards. PLEASE, if you have internal memory, let us use our own as well (micro sd preferrably)...and don't lose that tilt mechanism It does have a microSD slot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Menneisyys Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 These devices cant land soon enough as far as I am concerned. The X1 looks great and the additional screen real estate could make it a winner. Other than that...they're pretty much the same from what I can see. Tough call, wait until the X1 lands or just go for the HTC. @Paul: When do you think you will manage to get some hands on time with this new HTC device? Can't wait for some hands on opinions! Also, the X1 will have a worse keyboard if the Vario IV has the same quality keyboard as the Universal / kaiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WearTheFoxHat Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 I could be up for a group purchase. Can flog my TyTN II on fleabay or donate it to the management! Keep me in the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mikeyb50 Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Also, the X1 will have a worse keyboard if the Vario IV has the same quality keyboard as the Universal / kaiser. Looking at the Vario, I would prefer the HTC branded design as it's sharper in looks (don't like the rounded ends on the Vario IV), also the sony X1 in black is no way as good looking as the silver and the HTC is black is much more slick than the x1 in black. 3.5mm jack would of been nice also it would be nice if the Raphael has a dedicated camera button which the diamond dosen't. Just got a Jawbone 2 headset with nice diamond effect surface which would be great with the HTC diamond. My Tytn II was great so HTC has me over the sony ericsson X1 but it'll be tough to call. Xperia or Raphael........Hmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ptamblin Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 This is when I am glad I only entered a 12 month contract last November, I am really put off by 18 month contracts. Even though I had to pay a little bit more each month for minutes and texts the overal benefits are huge. I enjoy having the freedom and flexibility as great handsets like this are coming out so quickly. The phone looks fantastic but still have my reservations about the full qwerty, and having to switch it round to landscape... even though this looks alot quicker that on the Kieser. very interested to find out about the update to the Touch Dual, and if it comes with all the features of the diamond or do they undercut it like the Dual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Syphon Filter Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Is it out yet? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Battery info from a reliable source :D No news on Titanium, think it'll be a while... P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J273 Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Do you think this will be released the same time as the diamond then? I was going for that .....May go for this instead though :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Syphon Filter Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Do you think this will be released the same time as the diamond then? I was going for that .....May go for this instead though :D Expansys are quoting the Diamond as coming into stock on the 9th of June. Paul reckons the new Vario will hit next month on T-Mobile too so depending the state of your contracts/upgrade times you might be able to get it on T-Mobile. I dont know when the Diamond will be out on T-Mo though. I'm almost certainly going wait for the HTC branded version. I definitely like the squarer corners more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TBFL Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 And I think the X1 has a 3.5mm headphone output whereas the Raphael doesn't. No dedicated headphone jack is one of my biggest complaints with the Kaiser and biggest selling points for me for the X1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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