Guest fabrice- Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 WWW.ULTIMATEMOBILE.EU IS A SCAM ! Do not even think of talking with the ultimatemobile.eu scam team ! They stole my last 2000 euros from the salary and now I am all in debt, hardly paying my rent and utilities, the bastards ! Here is the payment information I was fooled in sending my money to : CO-OPERATIVE BANK ACCOUNT NAME: Mr D.Gurner IBAN NO.GB82CPBK08924902488989 BIC NO.CPBKGB22 and here is the one by western union : D.Gurner Suite 72,Cariocca Business Park Manchester M40 8BB United Kingdom Here are some copies of the emails : "Thank You For Your Order.We Are Delighted To Inform You That Your Order Of 10 x Nokia N96 16GB Mobiles Phones Is Ready For Dispatch.All That Is Required Is Your payment Which Should Be Made Via Western Union And Can Be Done At Any Of The 320,000 Locations Worldwide,Online Via The Website www.westernunion.com Or Over The Telephone.Please Send Your Payment To: D.Gurner Suite 72,Cariocca Business Park Manchester M40 8BB United Kingdom Once Your Payment Has Been Received Your Will Be Dispatched Immediatley And Completed To Your Doorstep In Just 24Hrs Via Royal Mail,Full Tracking Is Also Provided.If You Require Any Further Details Please Do Not Hesitate To Conact Us." "Dear Mr Hodgkin! Thank You For Contacting Us. Ultimate Mobiles Is Not Registered Within Any Forum Due To The Fact That All Orders Received Are Completed And On Time.Please Find All That You Requested In Your previous Email Detailed Below: 1) Paypal Was Used By An Overseas Customer But With Fraudulent Details - Loss Of £2500 2) Minimum Order? Please Refer To The Home Page Content. 3) The Nokia N96 16GB Is Available To Purchase In Most Shops. 4) Our Prices For Original Finland Made Nokia N95 8GB Is Competative,$200 Would Get You Cheap Replicas. 5) We Are In No Way Associated With Any Nigerian Shops Neither Will We Ever Be. If You Require Any Further Details Please Do Not Hesitate To Conact Us. Regards Steven Reamer (Sales Manager)" "Dear Mr Hodgkins! Thank You For Conacting Us.Please Vist www.powerupmobile.com / www.expansys.com To View Nokia N96 16GB Mobile Phones Forsale,I Think You Will Find That There Is An Excellent Mark Up To Be Acheived On These Items.We Can Confirm That Ultimate Mobile Is A UK Comapny As Is All Our Staff With Our Company Head Quarters UK Based.Please Find Our Registered Office Address As Listed: Suite 72 Cariocca Business Park Manchester M40 8BB If You Require Any Further Details Please Do Not Hesitate Top Conact Us. Kind Regards Steven Reamer (Sales Manager) ----- original message -------- Subject: RE: nokia n95 8gb Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 From: J Hodgkins .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} I didn`t ask you if you were registered with any forum. You`re not english are you ? Can you provide any documents for the loss of 2500 pounds ? In what other shops is the Nokia N96 16Gb available. I am looking at buying from you today or tomorrow and have no problem paying through western union as there is one near to my location but I want to make sure you have the nokia n96 16gb. PS : you did not mention your address headquarters. Thanks, jeffrey" " Dear Mr Hodgkins! Thank You For Your Email.With Regards To The Information Involving paypal This Simply Isnt Possible To Due The Data Protection Laws Here In The UK.We Are Not Permitted To Supply Information Involving Previous Transactions To Anyone Who Wishes It,The Transaction Involving Paypal Is Now In The Hands Of The Police Here In The UK. The Nokia N96 16GB Units Could Be Reduced In Price According To The Quantity Ordered? If You Would Like To Come Back To Me As Soon As Possible It Would Be Much Appreciated And Once Again I Thank You For Conacting Us. Kind Regards Mr Steven Reamer (Sales Manager) ----- original message -------- Subject: RE: Information Required... Sent: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 From: J Hodgkins .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Hey guys, I will need a invoice made to Jeffrey Mills, Paris, France, for 10 Nokias N96 16Gb, payment by bank transfer. Also I will need your company registration number for Ultimate Mobile. I did search the nokia n96 and it has been launched you are right. PS : my questions once again which you are avoiding : CAN YOU PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION FOR THE 2500 POUNDS LOSS YOU SAY YOU HAD ? Also I would like a discount on the nokia n96 offer which I am sure you can do. thanks, jeffrey" " Dear Mr Hodgkin! Thank You For Your Order.Please Find Details Of Your Order Along With Bank Wire Transfer Details As Requested.We Have Manged To Reduce The Unit Price Considerably As You Can See And Would Hope That This Is Acceptable To You.If You Require Any Further Details Please Do Not Hesitate To Conact Me. Order No.1009 10 Nokia N96 16GB Mobile Phones - Sim Free - Unlocked Total Payable £1999.99 FREE Shipping & Insurance Shipping Address: Mr Jeffery Mills 12 Rue De Fleru Paris,13255 France Banking Details For Payment To Be Sent: CO-OPERATIVE BANK ACCOUNT NAME: Mr D.Gurner IBAN NO.GB82CPBK08924902488989 BIC NO.CPBKGB22 Kind Regards Mr Steven Reamer ----- original message -------- Subject: RE: Information Required... Sent: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 From: J Hodgkins .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Hey gays, What discount do i get for 10 nokias n96 16gb ( hope a substantial one ) so i can make payment imediately by bank transfer. Provide a proforma invoice for 10 nokias n96 16gb with payment instructions by bank transfer to : Jeffrey Mills 12 Rue du fleru Paris , 13255 France Thanks, Jeffrey" Once the payment was made , I did not receive one response from them. Attention, these are gangsters, they make it so good, you won`t even know what hit ya ! STAY AWAY FROM THESE SCAMMERS ! FRAUDSTERS ! THIEVES ! GANGSTERS ! ANYONE WHO TALKED AND MAYBE WAS SCAMMED BY ULTIMATEMOBILE.EU PLEASE WRITE YOUR STORY HERE !
Guest fabrice- Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 Whois Result Domain Nameultimatemobile StatusREGISTERED (What this means) RegisteredAugust 19, 2008 Last updateAugust 19, 2008, 1:32 pm Registrant LanguageEnglish Email Registrar technical contacts NameHostmaster Strato Rechenzentrum OrganisationCronon AG Professional IT-Services LanguageGerman Address Phone Fax Email Registrar OrganisationSTRATO AG Websitewww.strato.eu Nameservers shades05.rzone.de docks20.rzone.de
Guest awarner (MVP) Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 Unfortunately it does look like an internet scam and as always prices that seem too good to be true normally are. For example things like PlayStation 3 80GB for £140 it just does not happen. I can only suggest you contact the police where you are and also in the UK. While the site is still running you may be lucky but anythink by Weson Union/bank transfer is unlikely to end up with you getting your money back. Unless you paid with your credit card?
Guest Confucious Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 You should NEVER pay for things by Wstern Union. Paying £2K to a company you don't know is a bit foolhardy. Googling the postcode returns: Cariocca Enterprises Ltd 71 units – a mix. 2 Hellidon Close. Ardwick. Manchester, M12 4AH. 2 Sawley Rd. Miles Platting. Manchester, M40 8BB. 0161 273 6605. 0161 277 9660 ... www.cariocca.co.uk/ The fact that there are only 71 units and they have "Flexible ‘easy in- easy out' occupancy terms * only 4 weeks notice required *" does not inspire confidence. I would think the chances of getting your money back are slim to nil but get on to the police immediately and hope! Good luck.
Guest fabrice- Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 I did not pay with my credit card, foolish of me, however they said something about the credit card system was fraudulent so I figured I could loose my credit card account, thought cash would be easier. I contacted the police but all they do is tell you to wait and wait and give you paper work to sign. thanks anyway, if anyone had any dealings with these scammers please post here with any information that you can provide.
Guest jimbouk Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 I am sorry but I simply do not believe anyone thinks sending money to these "companies" is a good idea. It takes about ten minutes to get verification about things such as the companies record at companies house, the directors, the filing of accounts, a search on their premises etc. And who deals with a company who use a Capital Letter At The Start Of Each Word?
Guest Confucious Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 I am sorry but I simply do not believe anyone thinks sending money to these "companies" is a good idea. I Think It's A Good Idea.
Guest Mysterious Stranger Posted September 21, 2008 Report Posted September 21, 2008 The 'business park' is about a mile from Collyhurst Police station. "Collyhurst police station, Rochdale Road, Collyhurst, Manchester, M4 4JA. To contact your local Neighbourhood Policing Team call 0161 856 3925" My office isn't far from there at the town end of Rochdale Road. That area is *rough* (although being redeveloped by Urban Splash) ..... Hindsight isn't much help here. I'm sure the OP has learnt a lesson now - but is £2k down. But the prices are too tempting to resist. I've emailed asking for a price for 100 x Nokia N78.... IIRC with Western Union you have to specify the office they will collect from and the person has to show photo ID. Can you see where I'm going here? ;) I'd assume they use the Western Union agent nearest them. Sadly ( in terms of 'staking out' a premises) there is one in the very same business park - JK Cars, Unit 34..... I have a nasty feeling they are in on it as well. Personnally to try to recover £2k I's spend £200 on a flight and come and see the guy in person to 'persuade' him to return the money. I doubt they'd leave it uncollected for long after it's available so shouldn't take long to find the guy. M.S
Guest Monolithix Posted September 21, 2008 Report Posted September 21, 2008 I knew that logo looked familiar!. Wonder if T&M know it's been ripped off!
Guest Confucious Posted September 21, 2008 Report Posted September 21, 2008 That's assuming T&M didn't just get their logo from some freeware... Have you asked them?
Guest awarner (MVP) Posted September 21, 2008 Report Posted September 21, 2008 I Think It's A Good Idea. Bad joke especially thinking the ammount that has possibly been lost. @mono I was thinking that as well, it's not the same but very similar. Another very similar image can be found HERE
Guest Confucious Posted September 21, 2008 Report Posted September 21, 2008 Bad joke especially thinking the ammount that has possibly been lost. Most of my jokes are ;) Sorry.
Guest awarner (MVP) Posted September 21, 2008 Report Posted September 21, 2008 Most of my jokes are :wacko: Now you come to mention it ;)
Guest Confucious Posted September 21, 2008 Report Posted September 21, 2008 Yes - but no one I know actually takes anything I say seriously, I'm always surprised when anyone does!
Guest Ultimate Mobile Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Unfortunately it does look like an internet scam and as always prices that seem too good to be true normally are. For example things like PlayStation 3 80GB for £140 it just does not happen. I can only suggest you contact the police where you are and also in the UK. While the site is still running you may be lucky but anythink by Weson Union/bank transfer is unlikely to end up with you getting your money back. Unless you paid with your credit card? ATTENTION ALL READERS MR Hodgkin or who ever is he is has NEVER PAID ULTIMATE MOBILE A DIME,He is a FRAUD Who calls him self both JEFFEREY MILLS & MR HODGKINS? After trying to con the Company he was reported to the police....Just thought I would make this CRYSTAL CLEAR & MAYBE YOU COULD ASK HIM TO PROVIDE HIS BANK WIRE RECEIPT? DONT THINK SO.. Reagrds Ultimate Mobile
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Hmmm, 'ultimate mobile's' posting IP resolves to "Rhondda Cynon Taff County Borough Council". Interesting! P
Guest Midahed Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Hmmm, 'ultimate mobile's' posting IP resolves to "Rhondda Cynon Taff County Borough Council". Interesting! P ;) :wacko: This couldn't possibly be abuse of council resources, so presumably Rhondda Cynon Taff County Borough Council is diversifying it's business interests. If they're expanding into the mobile phone market, maybe they'll be able to offer the local people a reduction in their council tax :(
Guest mwright Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 *gets popcorn* Just keep the noise down - don't want to miss anything!
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 I must confess, requesting payment via Western Union - GOTTA be legit right? I internet shop with Western Union all the time... ;) NOT! P
Guest xmob Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Hmmm, 'ultimate mobile's' posting IP resolves to "Rhondda Cynon Taff County Borough Council". Interesting! P Could be a public library. Many schools/libraries now VPN to the local council HQ and then out to the cloud via council controlled proxies.
Guest Confucious Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Could be a public library. Many schools/libraries now VPN to the local council HQ and then out to the cloud via council controlled proxies. So a legitimate business that uses the local library..... ;)
Guest FutureDirt Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 i think the OP needs to go down to the address in Manchester to see whats up. I know i would if i was £2500 out of pocket!
Guest awarner (MVP) Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Interesting the UM states they have not been paid a dime when they should know we don't use dimes in this country :wacko: FutureDirt share the popcorn don't be greedy ;)
Guest Stuart_f Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Legitimate companies usually reply to complaints in giant red letters. Legitimate companies always sign their replies with a faceless company name and not their own. Legitimate companies NEVER supply contact details to resolve the issue at hand. Uh.... no wait I think I got that the wrong way round ;)
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