blacklisted samsung omnia

[Guest jday77]

Hi there. i recently lost my omnia and rang orange to get it blacklisted, they told me that the phone would now be completely useless and will not even turn on. However ive read that the phone will still be accessable but just calls and texts are blocked. i was wondering what happens when an omnia is blacklised as when there is no sim card in you can still access the phone. if anyone can give me any advice it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[Guest Ingvarr]

Hi there. i recently lost my omnia and rang orange to get it blacklisted, they told me that the phone would now be completely useless and will not even turn on. However ive read that the phone will still be accessable but just calls and texts are blocked. i was wondering what happens when an omnia is blacklised as when there is no sim card in you can still access the phone. if anyone can give me any advice it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

It will not be possible to use it on mobile operators that share the common blacklist database, that most West European ones.

The phone will still turn on and will be able to be use as a PDA without a SIM card. It just will not be able to send/receive calls.

Also the phone will be perfectly usable on American, Asian and most Eastern European networks, they dont share blacklist database.

Edited October 26, 2008 by Ingvarr

[Guest Omnia_1]

I suppose one could sell it to overseas.

Edited October 26, 2008 by Omnia_1

[Guest jday77]

is there any way i can stop the phone even been turned on and used at all?

[Guest Ingvarr]

is there any way i can stop the phone even been turned on and used at all?

No way to do so I am aftraid.

[Guest hansg]

Hi

Little to late but in your new phone, Spriteterminator

http://www.spritesoftware.com/?page_id=280

[Guest awarner (MVP)]

You can still turn the radio off.

Thing is though I presume Orange has now given you a replacement or you have informed them you now have the phone again so they can remove the lock?

If Orange have given you a replacement under contract then you are legally obliged to return the old unit.

[Guest Carlos_C]

why or hw can a phone get blacklisted?

[Guest awarner (MVP)]

A phone can be blacklisted by being reported lost or stolen.

[Guest jday77]

Do you know if there is any way to track the phone by the imei number? or to find out when the phone has been turned on or used?

[Guest Spreng]

Do you know if there is any way to track the phone by the imei number? or to find out when the phone has been turned on or used?

http://www.spritesoftware.com/?page_id=280

as posted on the above post.

This will.... tell you when someone puts a sim into it. even inform you of its GPS position..and all sorts of goodies like being able to remotely delete all your files/pics.

All of this is done silently..and the person holding your stolen/lost phone knows nothing about it sending a predefined number a text giving his number..and sim numnber,,and GPS location.

Easy recovery of phone!!!

Buy it.. and stick it on your new phone.. that way.. you put it down to experience the once,

[Guest Ingvarr]

http://www.spritesoftware.com/?page_id=280

as posted on the above post.

This will.... tell you when someone puts a sim into it. even inform you of its GPS position..and all sorts of goodies like being able to remotely delete all your files/pics.

All of this is done silently..and the person holding your stolen/lost phone knows nothing about it sending a predefined number a text giving his number..and sim numnber,,and GPS location.

Easy recovery of phone!!!

Buy it.. and stick it on your new phone.. that way.. you put it down to experience the once,

This will work only if thief is dumb enough not to know about hard reset.

Hard reset will completely and easely obliterate this "protection"

And thief can easely access all personal data by just switching phone on without sim card in it.

The only secure data protection is to store sensitive data in internal flash only, and use built-in Windows Mobile PIN/password to protect it.

But in answer to original question, law authorities can quite easely track the phone usage and even triangulate the rough position for any GSM phone and without any software on the phone (using IMEI tracking only). But they don't generally do it just in "ordinary" cases of lost or stolen phones.

Edited October 29, 2008 by Ingvarr

[Guest lastnikita]

remotetracker does the same for free, and it can even be embedded in cooked roms, so the only way to go for the thief (who often don't even know how to hard-reset) would be to flash it to another rom.

[Guest Ingvarr]

Thief mainly keeps the phone in posession for a very short time (as long as this is not some dumb classroom underage theft).

Phone goes from thief to the fence relatively quickly, and hardly ever switched on during this period of time.

And fences know all about hard resets and firmware flashing, because this is massive and almost professional business.