SIMPLE GPS question!

[Guest Master_Axe]

Hey guys,

my service provider charges me anytime i use the GPS on the Omnia. Is it capable of doing GPS like a real GPS system, or is it technically limited, so I need my service provider? The question is, is there a way around paying, i.e. if i insalled tomtom?

Thank you, if the question's stupid, a link would be very nice, thank you!!

Franz

[Guest Mig-L - Bell]

Go to Settings/System/Enhanced GPS and disable XTRA...

It will take longer to lock to the satellites but no more costs...

Cheers

[Guest Master_Axe]

Go to Settings/System/Enhanced GPS and disable XTRA...

It will take longer to lock to the satellites but no more costs...

Cheers

Aha, cool, thanks. Now I need a new GPS program though, I suppose, instead of the one my provider installed? This is where I install Tomtom or whatever? Thank you!!!

[Guest paradizelost]

Aha, cool, thanks. Now I need a new GPS program though, I suppose, instead of the one my provider installed? This is where I install Tomtom or whatever? Thank you!!!

Depending on the features you want, yes. Google maps, Microsoft live Search, etc.. all work with GPS functionality, however don't do the spoken turn-by-turn directions.

[Guest scoiattolo]

Depending on the features you want, yes. Google maps, Microsoft live Search, etc.. all work with GPS functionality, however don't do the spoken turn-by-turn directions.

Just beware that Google Maps (now with street view!), Live Search Mobile all need an internet connection to download maps and info... and so a charge :rolleyes:

For a proper navigator you can choose also Garmin XT, IGo 8, Tomtom, etc

[Guest Master_Axe]

I used to use tomtom, so I'd prefer that. Say, this must've been asked like 20 times before, there a thread anyone can refer me to?

Anywho, the way I understand it, XTRA has to be off for the whole thing to be free. Next, I need "GPS Gate" for any GPS software to work. And finally, I need tomtom (7?). All of which is free and i can just google?

[Guest gravityz]

igo8 works without any extra programs like gpsgate.

i used to be a tomtom fan but at the moment i am trying igo8

at first it needs to get used to but after that it is not so bad.

please note none of this software is for free.

you need to buy it.

do not know how this works with software which is not for sale(like tomtom7)

I used to use tomtom, so I'd prefer that. Say, this must've been asked like 20 times before, there a thread anyone can refer me to?

Anywho, the way I understand it, XTRA has to be off for the whole thing to be free. Next, I need "GPS Gate" for any GPS software to work. And finally, I need tomtom (7?). All of which is free and i can just google?

[Guest Reuben (MY)]

i've tried all but still prefer Garmin XT till now due to its' feature

my XTRA is enabled because when i disable and delete .bin file, Garmin not scanning for satellite, not even 1 sat found...

it uses 3G connection, but once satellite signal become green, you may disconnect the 3G connection and start using it as pure GPS device.

[Guest scoiattolo]

i've tried all but still prefer Garmin XT till now due to its' feature

my XTRA is enabled because when i disable and delete .bin file, Garmin not scanning for satellite, not even 1 sat found...

it uses 3G connection, but once satellite signal become green, you may disconnect the 3G connection and start using it as pure GPS device.

BTW Garmin XT works perfectly with XTRA disabled.

The time for the fix may be longer, especially the first one, but it definitely works.

And with the latest ROMS (DXHK1-2-3) even the first fix is quite quick :rolleyes:

[Guest Enders]

Anyone know of a website from where I can download Garmin XT?

[Guest scoiattolo]

Anyone know of a website from where I can download Garmin XT?

You can download the program from Garmin website (including the basemap). But it will not work with the GPS and or a detailed map unless you have an activation code.

Of course if you use Google you will easily find alternative ways to activate :rolleyes:

[Guest X-Ray A4T]

In South Africa they have bundled the Omnia with the Garmin software branded as Samsung Mobile Navigator and included free updates of the maps for life (mine or the phone I'm not sure :rolleyes:) It does work really well.

[Guest Master_Axe]

argh.

So I assume anyone using any gps software *didnt* pay, given you can find a key gen for practically any software?

I hear I-GO is the only one that truly works perfectly, how can you get that to work? It free?

Edited December 17, 2008 by Master_Axe

[Guest bobobird]

None of the software mentioned here is free.

I have tried Garmin XT, iGo v8.0.x and v8.3.x, Route 66 and MapKing.

All work great with or without xtras. Only MapKing needs GpsGate.

My personal preference is iGo 8.3.x but because I travel a lot and latest iGo maps cover only Europe and North America, I have to use also v8.0.x.

@Master_Axe - truly works part is not strictly correct as far as 8.3.x is concened - lots of people have had problems. Probably not reading in the "correct" forums. haha

Edited December 17, 2008 by bobobird

[Guest Reuben (MY)]

BTW Garmin XT works perfectly with XTRA disabled.

The time for the fix may be longer, especially the first one, but it definitely works.

And with the latest ROMS (DXHK1-2-3) even the first fix is quite quick :rolleyes:

maybe i'm still with DXHJ1 or maybe you tested without deleting xtra.bin file, whatever it is, i did switch on gps in open air and stood for 30 minutes with no movement in satallite signal :) (xtra disable, bin file deleted, and rebooted) shall go for new rom before xmas as secany mentioned in his post...

[Guest X-Ray A4T]

Is downloading the XTRA data expensive where you are? Here in South Africa our bandwidth is not cheap and I pay R2.00 per MB which is about $0.20. Now the XTRA data file is 50KB or so which is about R0.10 or about $0.01. That in comparison to the size of the Google maps is tiny or if you are going to legally buy the Garmin software and maps (which I think Samsung should bundle everywhere like they do in SA) which is going to cost about $100.

[Guest gravityz]

try moving around

i did the same and thought it wass not working

when i jumped in my car and drove around i had a lock within 2 minutes

it seems like this gps needs movement while bt gpsses like it when you are stationary

maybee it has something to do woth the sleep mode

when you are stationary it might shut of

maybe i'm still with DXHJ1 or maybe you tested without deleting xtra.bin file, whatever it is, i did switch on gps in open air and stood for 30 minutes with no movement in satallite signal :rolleyes: (xtra disable, bin file deleted, and rebooted) shall go for new rom before xmas as secany mentioned in his post...

[Guest picky-picasso]

Hey guys,

my service provider charges me anytime i use the GPS on the Omnia. Is it capable of doing GPS like a real GPS system, or is it technically limited, so I need my service provider? The question is, is there a way around paying, i.e. if i insalled tomtom?

Thank you, if the question's stupid, a link would be very nice, thank you!!

Franz

Make sure you are using Modaco NODATA to toggle off your data connection. If the phone can fix GPS without connection, that will force it. It will probably save you from other undesirable data connections, too.

pp

[Guest tensor123]

Is there any drawing speed difference in Garmin xt, if

i set baud rate from 4800 to 9600? Anyone experimented with

baud settings?

[Guest laplace]

maybe i'm still with DXHJ1 or maybe you tested without deleting xtra.bin file, whatever it is, i did switch on gps in open air and stood for 30 minutes with no movement in satallite signal :( (xtra disable, bin file deleted, and rebooted) shall go for new rom before xmas as secany mentioned in his post...

I loaded Garmin XT 5.0 yesterday and after a few changes here and there it locked onto 10 satellites in less than 2 mins :) . Check your settings. :rolleyes:

[Guest bpivk]

Is there any drawing speed difference in Garmin xt, if

i set baud rate from 4800 to 9600? Anyone experimented with

baud settings?

I'm really not sure what baud does to different programs but i noticed that igo likes 9600 and garmin works fine with 4800. Igo doesn't even connect on 4800. And some of my geocaching programs work on higher baud rates and not on lower ones. So it seems that every software prefers it's own settings.

[Guest raza1]

I'm really not sure what baud does to different programs but i noticed that igo likes 9600 and garmin works fine with 4800. Igo doesn't even connect on 4800. And some of my geocaching programs work on higher baud rates and not on lower ones. So it seems that every software prefers it's own settings.

IGO also works with 4800 baudrate. Got the sattelites immediately during first startup. Omnia isn't able to work faster than 4800 but it doesn't do any harm if you install it with 9600.

[Guest Master_Axe]

say, 2 minutes is an average time for the phone to fix its position, right?

[Guest MrJoneswii]

I'm using IGO 8 without enhanced GPS (XTRA) and I get a fix pretty fast, 1 minute max.

I'm really loving IGO 8

[Guest bpivk]

IGO also works with 4800 baudrate. Got the sattelites immediately during first startup. Omnia isn't able to work faster than 4800 but it doesn't do any harm if you install it with 9600.

It doesn't work for me. 9600 is the only setting that enables satelites on Igo. I get a no gps found if i change it to 4800.