What's good in Omnia

[Guest clvc]

I wrote a similar post in another forum but I´d like to hear from you also:

Frankly, I can't understand why people bother talking about Omnia .

let's see:

- The camera is awful despite 5MP;

- Wifi only works well when near the wireless router;

- Resolution !? If the sun shines the screen disappears;

- Touch screen is far from working like a Iphone;

- battery duration is better in the leaked firmwares but it is not great;

- 8gb for storage is very good but what about the memory for programs ?

- accelerometer is making me crazy !

- why they don't put a 3,5mm conector for audio ? the adaptor is very inconvenient;

- anyone tried to write something like a e-mail on the samsung "keyboard" ? maybe they made it for children, i mean little children, not for adult fingers;

Possibly I´m forgetting something else, but I've made my point. digg_bgcolor = 'transparent'; digg_window = 'new'; digg_url = 'http://www.samsung-omnia.org/index.php?topic=2052.msg9323#msg9323'; digg_title = 'What´s good in Omnia ?'; digg_bodytext = 'Frankly, I can't understand why people bother talking about Omnia .let's see:- The camera is awful despite 5MP;- Wifi only works well when near the wireless router;- Resolution !? If the sun shines the screen disappears;- Touch screen is far from working like a Iphone;- battery duration is better in the leaked firmwares but it is not grea'; digg_media = 'news'; :rolleyes:

Edited December 15, 2008 by clvc

[Guest Mig-L - Bell]

Your Omnias must diferent from mine... My camera shots look great for a WinMo device, my battery lasts 3 day's with good use... 50+mb of program memory is more than enough for 20 app to run at once, the screen is great, on sunlight is just like any other PDA, the acceleromoter doesn't cause my any trouble... Etc, Etc...

Why do you people keep winning...? Go buy a Nokia if you can't use a proper devive like an Omnia... If you think it's this bad, it because you really don't know how to use it...

[Guest chokia]

He definitely has a faulty unit.

[Guest Bloo_DF]

Omnia Rulez!

Go away Appel Boy!

Just check omnia its the better phone ever till now!!

[Guest 1Mack]

Out of the box with the latest ROM the Omnia is a feature packed device :) :rolleyes: . I do not have many additional apps installed (mostly games). With the help of fellow owners for tweaks and hack the device just keeps getting better. My next phone will truly have to do a serious leap in features and function to be bought. :(

Edited December 15, 2008 by 1Mack

[Guest mobilehappy]

I don't know what is wrong with yours but my Omnia is just fabulous :(

- Camera takes great pictures (Feel free to have a look.. )

- 1 battery charge last 3 days +

- The adapter for headphones is great since i can use my favorite headset and still have full hands free functionality.

- WiFi works even when i am outside of my house.

But i will concede that the screen does not work good in sunlight except as a mirror that is :rolleyes: (But this it has in common with most other touch screens mobiles too)

I do wish though that Samsung would change the ROM versions to utilize the large "My Storage" memory more, so that as many of the default apps as possibly was installed there leaving as much main memory free as possible.

The accelerometer can be turned off or you can just adjust the sensitivity.

Omnia uses a Restive touch screen while Iphone uses a capacitive one, so you have to give a little bit more presure when using it..so what?

The advantage then again is that you can use the screen with any pointed item and you can even use it while wearing gloves! :)

Edited December 15, 2008 by mobilehappy

[Guest Michael122w]

Frankly, I can't understand why people bother talking about Omnia .

let's see:

- The camera is awful despite 5MP;

.........

; :(

Hi Clvc,

I was a little bit confused when you set up a discussion on "What's good in Omnia" but then you focus on the bad stuff.

I think the other guys have already highlighted that the fault that you have noted are not univerally accepted as "faults". I can't say that I have found any of those things annoying - the battery is great and the keyboard is very smart (you actually don't need to hit the right key).

But in terms of you initial question "What's Good in Omnia":

> haptic feedback is well thought out on the Samsung applications

> the included software is very good - Touch Player, Smart Reader,Media Album, Opera, etc

> the size of the phone is lovely - great weight and screen size

> the flexibility of the included settings is good - with capacity to change the sensitivity of vibe and screen rotation (as well as sensitivity).

> great range of media support out of the box.

> top notch data connection capabilities

> great storage options (up to 32 gig at the moment)

> really good photos -when on the right settings - oh! can't forget smile detection :)

> the ability to change virtually any aspect of the phone you don't like - If you don't like the keyboard - try Keypad - or try phone pad (or PCMKeyboard or Zoomboard or transcriber or Touchpal etc). If don't like TouchWiz - change it to whatever you like.

I am happy with my omnia - I think there is a lot to feel good about :rolleyes:

Cheers,

Michael

[Guest 1Mack]

I do wish though that Samsung would change the ROM versions to utilize the large "My Storage" memory more, so that as many of the default apps as possibly was installed there leaving as much main memory free as possible.

Man if SS or some genius hacker\cooker could figure that out it would be the true boss of Winmo phones. :rolleyes: :( :) :( And I know it will happen so it is just a matter of time

Edited December 15, 2008 by 1Mack

[Guest Michael122w]

Man if SS or some genius hacker\cooker could figure that out it would be the true boss of Winmo phones. :rolleyes: :( :) :( And I know it will happen so it is just a matter of time

voila: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382944.

Well actually I think it could be a partial solution to the problem. This was developed originally to shift memory to the on device storage. The developer has developed a configuration that allows you to put this additional storage space on the Storage Cards - so I it wouldn't be difficult to direct it to the My Storage.

Edit: here is a good article on an older version of the program:

http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/blogs/3/t...e_with_almost_e

Edited December 15, 2008 by Michael122w

[Guest psionandy]

I wrote a similar post in another forum but I´d like to hear from you also:

Thanks for signing up to a bunch of forums to post what many would consider a 'trolling' question, but seeing as you asked

I had one... and sent it back. So I'm not an Omnia 'fanboy'.. however it does have a lot going for it.

Frankly, I can't understand why people bother talking about Omnia .

let's see:

- The camera is awful despite 5MP;

er... no its not. It does depend on your definition of awful though. Clearly its not as good as a 5MP SLR camera... however it is alright when compared to cameras on other smartphone devices. The software does have some nice features, I liked the Smile detection thing which was great when taking pics of my 2 year old.... and lets face it there's little else thats worth taking any photo of :love:

- Wifi only works well when near the wireless router;

That was the one thing that made me send it back within the 14 days when I had it... if it could have been fixed without flashing to a non standard rom I'd have kept it...

- Resolution !? If the sun shines the screen disappears;

- Touch screen is far from working like a Iphone;

Thats not resolution! That's nothing to do with resolution... But I found it fine outside.

As for the Touch screen not being like an iPhone, that's because it's not an iphone... you can tell because iPhones have the word iPhone written on the box...

However the stuff they've added does make it one of the most finger friendly win mobile devices arround... And if you add SPB Mobile Shell (as I did) then it's very nice.

You do lose a bit on on the fact that you need a stylus compared to the iphone... but the upside is that the handwriting recognition on a Windows mobile device allows much quicker text input than the iPhone. I'll race anyone.

- battery duration is better in the leaked firmwares but it is not great;

- 8gb for storage is very good but what about the memory for programs ?

Battery is much better than a certain phone with an I in the name.. and at least twice as good as the previous king of the hill the HTC TyTn II

you can use the 8GB for programs.. or the SD card .. and there is some built in storage. Not a huge ammount so you have to be a bit careful, but it's not a major problem/

- accelerometer is making me crazy !

er... turn it off then.

I liked it, as it just worked great for me.

- why they don't put a 3,5mm conector for audio ? the adaptor is very inconvenient;

but again, thats pretty usual for Windows mobile devices.. I'd like a real jack, but to be honest Bluetooth stereo headphones are better than both... A2DP works really well... even better than on my TyTN II and is another thing that the iPhone can't do.

- anyone tried to write something like a e-mail on the samsung "keyboard" ? maybe they made it for children, i mean little children, not for adult fingers;

Thats why I like the stylus... but the keyboard isn't bad. For long documents and word processing I pull out an igo Stowaway bluetooth keyboard and use that. All the best phones support BT keyboards. I wouldn't consider any smartphone that doesn't.

Possibly I´m forgetting something else, but I've made my point

and you've made it rather badly.... what was it again?

At the very least, and giving you every benefit of every doubt... what you've proved is the Omnia is worth talking about a lot. Congratulations :approve:

[Guest cici]

I wrote a similar post in another forum but I´d like to hear from you also:

Frankly, I can't understand why people bother talking about Omnia .

let's see:

- The camera is awful despite 5MP;

- Wifi only works well when near the wireless router;

- Resolution !? If the sun shines the screen disappears;

- Touch screen is far from working like a Iphone;

- battery duration is better in the leaked firmwares but it is not great;

- 8gb for storage is very good but what about the memory for programs ?

- accelerometer is making me crazy !

- why they don't put a 3,5mm conector for audio ? the adaptor is very inconvenient;

- anyone tried to write something like a e-mail on the samsung "keyboard" ? maybe they made it for children, i mean little children, not for adult fingers;

You don't have one, am I right?

[Guest clvc]

You don't have one, am I right?

Thanks for all replies.

I´d like to remember that I´m not really the only one that is unhappy with Omnia.

Even in this forum you can read some topics about people telling similar things (maybe not complaining about all the things that I am !).

By the way Cici, I have a Omnia, but my new HTC Touch HD is arriving in the next few days.

[Guest cici]

Thanks for all replies.

I´d like to remember that I´m not really the only one that is unhappy with Omnia.

Even in this forum you can read some topics about people telling similar things (maybe not complaining about all the things that I am !).

By the way Cici, I have a Omnia, but my new HTC Touch HD is arriving in the next few days.

I was kidding, of course! Wish you all the happiness with your new toy, hopefully it will be "tailored on your hand"; I know myself, if I don't like something, I dont like and basta, despite all others opinion. Good luck, clvc!

[Guest psionandy]

By the way Cici, I have a Omnia, but my new HTC Touch HD is arriving in the next few days.

oh dear... There are quite a few things on your list that are going to make you unhappy.

(but seeing as they weren't really problems you'll be fine :rolleyes: )

[Guest clvc]

oh dear... There are quite a few things on your list that are going to make you unhappy.

(but seeing as they weren't really problems you'll be fine :rolleyes: )

Could you tell me what items of the list the problems are the same ?

thanks.

[Guest anubi1126]

Ok the way i see it you either like the omnia or you dont the phone has both good and bad features,but then most do all in all i am happy with my phone it makes calls plays movies has ebooks tv skins from imarch and modaco i have added progs and games resco explorer and there is room for more i have igo8 etc all in all it depends on what you want from your mobile device ,dont just slam it coz its not an iphone its windows mobile there is no comparison at all thanks

[Guest Quang05BlkBoxsterS n Omnia]

I agreed to some of yours.

1) Not good under sunlight but that can be easily fix with anti glare screen (more expensive?) just bc Samsung still wants to make money.

2) UI is slower than iPhone but SPB shell for $30 fixes std Today WM screen.

3) ROM/RAM are smaller than other high end PDA phones but with custom ROMs it frees up much and running a few big apps like GPS nav, movie player or audio player and Opera (or even Teeter or Resco bubbles games) still manages to get thru, slower respone time to switch tasks but still BETTER than iPhone which is only single tasking.

4) Camera and its extensive settings are big PLUS vs. iPhone (not as good as N95/96 or higher resolution camera phones). Believe it or not, I took a macro pix of a IC socket and the chip itself at full resolution vs. two digital Nikon camera from two co-workers. One is 8mpx in US$200-300 range and the other is 10mpx ESL that costs about US$1,700 :) . Well to make the story short, the cheaper Nikon could not even auto focus properly at about 2 inches away from the chip in good lighting (it kept blinking red and green and whinning, lol). The other did not have a macro lense so it was taken at >5mpx resolution at regular zoom angle and honestly, its owner had to admit that the pix of the chip taken by the Omnia, just a PDA phone with camera :rolleyes: , with auto focus and settings in default showed a slightly better and sharper image. The pix of socket pins taken with his Nikon showed a slightly better white balance and exposure to show the pins separately, mine had a bit of light reflection on the pins sitting so closely together but the other side of pins without too much brightness looked as clear and clean as the Nikon's.

And probably one of the best part about WM is to be able to load almost any GPS nav sw to work well. I have iGuidance 4 (discontinued) but it never fails me so far in California.

[Guest miko3d]

Could you tell me what items of the list the problems are the same ?

actually you may find a few more....

HD has the best screen in the market, but it has the worst use of it for video playback.... No drivers!

forget about watching Divx videos without a guide of how to convert most them... that unless of course you dont mind some frame skipping...

hopefully this will change, till then omnia is the way to go if what you are after is simply copying your movies from your desktop to your phone and enjoy the full of them at full speed and hassle free...

also,HD wont be faster than an omnia using Manila 2D, i have been using both, what is more, if the omnia is locked at its 630 mhz(xcpuscalar for example) (by factory it changes between 210-630mhz) depending in the cpu charge) is the fastest phone i have ever used, and yes this includes the Iphone.... :rolleyes:

its a shame that this phone doesnt come from factory as most of the people in this forums have config it(good roms, manila,etc...)

Samsung WAKE UP you have a winner and you dont realize....

thanks

thanks.

[Guest Emre SUMENGEN]

I believe Omnia has one or two points, that can get some enhancements...

The first (and IMHO the most important) is the firmware... Samsung has to officially announce firmwares (they are still claiming the update site was for "internal use only" and don't provide direct support). And, they _have_to_ support new firmwares for localized versions, not only for a "few" selected countries...

The second important thing to improve would be the screen, of course by using a capacitive LCD. For a resistive display, Omnia has a very good one (sensitivity is not bad and images are very crisp and live indoors) but it's out-of-date for now.

The last one might be increasing RAM/ROM size... 128MB ram is not enough, and it really doesn't matter how much you squeeze it. A device to lead today would have 256MB at least, I believe. More ROM wouldn't hurt either...

Samsung should see that their customers for Omnia are not "Cheap-buyers" that look for the cheapest thing to buy. Instead, (at least for myself) we are searching for the _BEST_ in class. I had an iPhone when I bought the Omnia, (and the iPhone is not cheap here, in Turkey - more than 1K USD, unbranded)

[Guest barking sane]

What's good about Omnia?

• spb interface
  
• spb keyboard
  
• price
  
• ereader works a treat
  
• it's not an Iphone
  

Had mine a couple of weeks and would not swap it for the world. It's kept me quiet for hours choosing colours and reassigning hard controls. It is now my phone much more than an Iphone ever would have been my phone. I associate Iphones with Itunes, DRM, proprietary formats and forced conformity. Stuff that.