Power Off Application

[Guest Kev23]

Morning all, has anybody found a power off applcation that works for the Omnia? (i.e. that completely turns it off). I have found a couple out there that claim they turn the phone off.....but all they do is turn the screen off.

Thanks.

[Guest fernandojlb]

I'm looking for something like that too. I often forget to power my Omnia off before i go sleep, so i'ld like to schedule it for auto-shutdown like i did with my previous phones.

I wondered if there wasn't already such application that was bound to the PowerKey somehow like happens with the Kaiser.

[Guest Omnian]

I tried to install this

xdaShutdown 0v01c from http://www.1800pocketpc.com/tag/shutdown

but Omnia failed to run it. it required a high Net. Compact Framework to be installed.. anyone else has better luck?

[Guest fernandojlb]

Just gave it a shot. The Reset and Sleep work flawlessly, but once again the Shutdown is the troublemaker returning some code error.

Why is it so hard to schedule a shutdown in winmo :)

[Guest Neil5459]

Just gave it a shot. The Reset and Sleep work flawlessly, but once again the Shutdown is the troublemaker returning some code error.

Why is it so hard to schedule a shutdown in winmo :D

Because WinMo is not designed to be shutdown completely :)

The question is- why do you want to shut it down? If you do, all scheduled operations will be stopped, and the phone will need a soft reset when it powers back up again.

If your intention is to save battery power, then simply switching to flight mode will have almost the same effect as a total shutdown. In flight mode, the battery use is minimal- only about 1-2% drop overnight.

[Guest Luk@]

Because WinMo is not designed to be shutdown completely :)

The question is- why do you want to shut it down? If you do, all scheduled operations will be stopped, and the phone will need a soft reset when it powers back up again.

If your intention is to save battery power, then simply switching to flight mode will have almost the same effect as a total shutdown. In flight mode, the battery use is minimal- only about 1-2% drop overnight.

I'm sorry Neil5459 but I think you're wrong at this point. Omnia can be completely shut down. Just press the power on/off button and the middle one together. Samsung's logo is shown and the music is played and then phone shuts down. Tell me guys if it works for you.

[Guest bpivk]

Because WinMo is not designed to be shutdown completely :)

The question is- why do you want to shut it down? If you do, all scheduled operations will be stopped, and the phone will need a soft reset when it powers back up again.

If your intention is to save battery power, then simply switching to flight mode will have almost the same effect as a total shutdown. In flight mode, the battery use is minimal- only about 1-2% drop overnight.

That's what i do. Enable flight mode so that you can't get a call at 3am and put your phone into standby so that alarm still works. If you turn off the phone completely the alarm won't work and you'll have to wait for quite some time (if you have a lot of apps) for the phone to start again.

[Guest lastnikita]

I'm sorry Neil5459 but I think you're wrong at this point. Omnia can be completely shut down. Just press the power on/off button and the middle one together. Samsung's logo is shown and the music is played and then phone shuts down. Tell me guys if it works for you.

he meant was not initially designed, but it's been fixed since ages (well since pdaphones actually)

the power consumption in standby/flight mode is almost the same as when it's powered off, so he's right that's the way to go, but WinMO severly lacks user facility there..

[Guest abu123]

psShutXP can schedule soft resets/screenoff/standby/screenlock at absolute or relative time but NOT complete power off. (the turn off in the image is standyby mode)

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Edited January 24, 2009 by abu123

[Guest Neil5459]

I'm sorry Neil5459 but I think you're wrong at this point. Omnia can be completely shut down. Just press the power on/off button and the middle one together. Samsung's logo is shown and the music is played and then phone shuts down. Tell me guys if it works for you.

I didn't say it couldn't happen; all WinMo devices can be shut down by one method or other- usually by holding down the power button for 3 seconds or more (in HTC devices); your method works for the Omnia, but it can't be scheduled, which is what the OP was enquiring about.

My point is that unless you are going to leave it unattended for a long time, there may be no point in a total shutdown.

[Guest fernandojlb]

Well, this omnia is my first phone that can be called "smart" :D , so i was unaware about this "always on" behavior. Now my father's Treo makes a lot more sense to me :) .

So, since there's no major point to schedule such shutdown, what is the best (free) way to to do so with Flight Mode? I already got a scheduler for this purpose, so a simple toggler would already be nice.

Thanks for the clarifications guys :)

[Guest lastnikita]

http://freewareppc.com/communication/toostenflightmode.shtml

[Guest Neil5459]

Well, this omnia is my first phone that can be called "smart" :D , so i was unaware about this "always on" behavior. Now my father's Treo makes a lot more sense to me :) .

So, since there's no major point to schedule such shutdown, what is the best (free) way to to do so with Flight Mode? I already got a scheduler for this purpose, so a simple toggler would already be nice.

Thanks for the clarifications guys :)

If you don't mind spending $15, then Chronos is a great program.

Although ostensibly a clock/alarm program, you can use the alarm function to trigger any program, or actions such as Flight Mode on/off, without any audible or visible alarms appearing to the user.

[Guest bpivk]

If you don't mind spending $15, then Chronos is a great program.

Although ostensibly a clock/alarm program, you can use the alarm function to trigger any program, or actions such as Flight Mode on/off, without any audible or visible alarms appearing to the user.

A question... You have to enter Pin to disable flight mode well actually to enable phone radio so would i have to enter pin or would it switch automaticaly? Because i think that you would still have to enter pin and that would make things useless.

Edit: Chronos doesn't work on my phone. You cant use the slider for more settings and it isn't made for our screens. Nice app though.

Edited January 25, 2009 by bpivk

[Guest Neil5459]

A question... You have to enter Pin to disable flight mode well actually to enable phone radio so would i have to enter pin or would it switch automaticaly? Because i think that you would still have to enter pin and that would make things useless.

Edit: Chronos doesn't work on my phone. You cant use the slider for more settings and it isn't made for our screens. Nice app though.

I don't think it can handle PIN code entry for flight Mode on/off :)

Which version of Chronos did you try? The latest version (October 2008) has the following in it's changelog, implying support for the i900:

3.9.6.3 (9 October 2008)

- Fixed audio quality

- Improved responsiveness of stopwatch buttons

- Added support of vibration to Samsung i900 PDA

[Guest dwallersv]

I'm sorry Neil5459 but I think you're wrong at this point. Omnia can be completely shut down. Just press the power on/off button and the middle one together. Samsung's logo is shown and the music is played and then phone shuts down. Tell me guys if it works for you.

Never tried that method (will give it a shot). However, the same thing can be achieved by pressing and holding the power button.

Power Button:

• Press and release -- puts device in WM "sleep" state
  
• Press and hold -- shuts down device completely (same as having battery removed)
  

My question re: this thread is this: Since there are easy ways to shut down the device completely, of what use is an application to do the same? Unless you're looking for some automatic, unattended, scheduled shutdown...

[Guest dwallersv]

he meant was not initially designed, but it's been fixed since ages (well since pdaphones actually)

the power consumption in standby/flight mode is almost the same as when it's powered off, so he's right that's the way to go, but WinMO severly lacks user facility there..

Search this forum for the Samsung FavoriteSettings app, and install it. It goes a long way to solving the UI problem getting into and out of flight mode.

[Guest lastnikita]

thanks, but samsung's applications are crap, sorry :)

I already provided a tool to do this scheduled, see above..

I just meant that for other users (newbies).

[Guest bpivk]

I don't think it can handle PIN code entry for flight Mode on/off :)

Which version of Chronos did you try? The latest version (October 2008) has the following in it's changelog, implying support for the i900:

3.9.6.3 (9 October 2008)

- Fixed audio quality

- Improved responsiveness of stopwatch buttons

- Added support of vibration to Samsung i900 PDA

I think that it was 3.9.6.3 or 3.9.6.4 i don't remember. And the problem wasnt vibration but the screen. The watch wasn't covering the whole screen (it was made for qvga not wqvga) and some of the settings had s slider so you can go lower and the slider didn't work so some of the settings couldn't be reached or changed.

[Guest dwallersv]

thanks, but samsung's applications are crap, sorry :)

I already provided a tool to do this scheduled, see above..

I just meant that for other users (newbies).

Well, in the same spirit, your opinions are crap <_<

The Samsung FavoriteSettings app is quite good, and provides much more useful functionality than that little POS tool you provided.

Gives large, thumb-ready toggles for BT, Wifi, Vibration, the orientation sensor, Etiquette mode (which I've never used), mouse/dpad, flashlight, and as mentioned flight mode.

It's worked flawlessly since I installed it, and use it all the time.

Perhaps you should actually examine/review things before you go shooting your mouth off.

[Guest lastnikita]

Come on, don't feel hurt poor little thing, you didn't develop that app did you ?

So no need to get aggressive with me, thanks..

I agree I was a little hard with that word, in fact favorite settings is certainly very useful for some people, but samsung's apps are resources hogs which you can easily replace with better stuff most of the time.

My opinion is a developer one, so I can understand you didn't get me, sorry about that.

The link I posted do exactly what is needed here, ie be able to schedule flight mode so that you don't need to do it manually each night. You can't do that with fav.settings...

ps: what is a POS ?

[Guest fernandojlb]

http://freewareppc.com/communication/toostenflightmode.shtml

Thanks, it worked like a charm :)

If you don't mind spending $15, then Chronos is a great program.

Although ostensibly a clock/alarm program, you can use the alarm function to trigger any program, or actions such as Flight Mode on/off, without any audible or visible alarms appearing to the user.

Actually, the problem is not if i mind spending, wich i don't. The problem is that i can't pay (please note, i didn't said afford) since i can't make international money transfers. If i could though, i would probably go for the full version of the app i'm currently using, CT Scheduler Lite, it even supports PIN unlocking when leaving flight mode :D .

[Guest lastnikita]

no worries mate, if ever you know one to turn the screen off (not standby), let me know :)

[Guest Neil5459]

I think that it was 3.9.6.3 or 3.9.6.4 i don't remember. And the problem wasnt vibration but the screen. The watch wasn't covering the whole screen (it was made for qvga not wqvga) and some of the settings had s slider so you can go lower and the slider didn't work so some of the settings couldn't be reached or changed.

You'll know more than me on that one as I don't have an i900 :) My reason for posting that part of the changelog was that if they are saying vibrate now works with that device, by inference they are suggesting that the whole program should work.

As this is getting a bit OT, we have to assume that Chronos is not a suitable app for what the OP wanted :D

[Guest dwallersv]

Come on, don't feel hurt poor little thing, you didn't develop that app did you ?

So no need to get aggressive with me, thanks..

I agree I was a little hard with that word, in fact favorite settings is certainly very useful for some people, but samsung's apps are resources hogs which you can easily replace with better stuff most of the time.

My opinion is a developer one, so I can understand you didn't get me, sorry about that.

The link I posted do exactly what is needed here, ie be able to schedule flight mode so that you don't need to do it manually each night. You can't do that with fav.settings...

ps: what is a POS ?

Geez, what an arrogant putz.

Moving on... attached is FavoriteSettings for anyone that wants to give it a try. It's not a stock app on the 910 or most 900s -- it's in a recent update from Samsung.

Also, an app that is on every Omnia and is really nice as well is PowerCalc. It's in \Windows, and there is also a shortcut there too that you can copy to \Windows\Start Menu folder so it will appear in your Programs page. Try it out... you might like this "crap" application from Samsung as well.

FavoriteSettings.zip

Edited January 26, 2009 by dwallersv