Guest justpratik Posted May 13, 2009 Report Posted May 13, 2009 First, there's these reported specs for 'Chasis 1' which according to Foley "seems to be the the heart of the rumored “Pink” Microsoft phone and possibly other Windows Mobile 7 phones made by Microsoft partners".In other words, Pink may be a prototype/demo unit/scaffold for developers to model their next-gen WM7 handsets on--so Microsoft is setting the bar on what the minimum requirements will be and what they envision the ideal handset would be like. Sounds pretty plausible to our ears. Now onto those rumored specs: WM7 Chassis 1 Specification Core requirements: Processor: ARM v6+, L2 Cache, VFP, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (QCOM 8k, Nvidia AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec) Memory: 256MB+ DRAM, 1G+ Flash (at least 512MB fast flash – 5MB/s unbuffered read @4K block size) Display: WVGA (800×480) or FWVGA (854×480) 3.5” or greater diagonal Touch: Multi-touch required Battery: Sufficient to meet Days of Use LTK requirements. Controls: Start, Back, Send and End are required (soft controls allowed as long as they are always present). Peripherals: Camera: 3MP+, flash optional, 2nd camera optional (VGA resolution sufficient) GPS: aGPS required Sensors required: Light Sensor, Compass (3 axis, 5 degrees, 100 Hz sample rate), Accelerometer (3 axis, 2mg resolution, 100 Hz sample rate) USB: High speed required, 20 MB/s transfer rate. BlueTooth: BT2.1 required, must run MSFT BT stack, CSR BlueCore6 or later recommended. Wi-Fi: 802.11B/G required, must run MSFT Native Wi-Fi stack, Atheros 6002 or Broadcomm 4325 recommended. Connectors: Micro USB and 3.5mm Audio required. Options: FM tuner: If tuner HW is present it will be detected and supported by the Media application. Haptics SD Card (Micro SD recommended) DPAD, qwerty or 12/20 key keyboards all optional So we have an addition of a compass (iPhone is rumored to get that too), microUSB, accelerometer, light sensors, required aGPS, there's that ol' Multi-touch and some high end processors on board. Gone is also anything less than VGA for resolution, which is something we welcome. There we have it...think this all sounds legit? Can you (and the market) wait till 2010?
Guest Emre SUMENGEN Posted May 13, 2009 Report Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) First, there's these reported specs for 'Chasis 1' which according to Foley "seems to be the the heart of the rumored “Pink” Microsoft phone and possibly other Windows Mobile 7 phones made by Microsoft partners".In other words, Pink may be a prototype/demo unit/scaffold for developers to model their next-gen WM7 handsets on--so Microsoft is setting the bar on what the minimum requirements will be and what they envision the ideal handset would be like. Sounds pretty plausible to our ears. Now onto those rumored specs: WM7 Chassis 1 Specification Core requirements: Processor: ARM v6+, L2 Cache, VFP, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (QCOM 8k, Nvidia AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec) Memory: 256MB+ DRAM, 1G+ Flash (at least 512MB fast flash – 5MB/s unbuffered read @4K block size) Display: WVGA (800×480) or FWVGA (854×480) 3.5” or greater diagonal Touch: Multi-touch required Battery: Sufficient to meet Days of Use LTK requirements. Controls: Start, Back, Send and End are required (soft controls allowed as long as they are always present). Peripherals: Camera: 3MP+, flash optional, 2nd camera optional (VGA resolution sufficient) GPS: aGPS required Sensors required: Light Sensor, Compass (3 axis, 5 degrees, 100 Hz sample rate), Accelerometer (3 axis, 2mg resolution, 100 Hz sample rate) USB: High speed required, 20 MB/s transfer rate. BlueTooth: BT2.1 required, must run MSFT BT stack, CSR BlueCore6 or later recommended. Wi-Fi: 802.11B/G required, must run MSFT Native Wi-Fi stack, Atheros 6002 or Broadcomm 4325 recommended. Connectors: Micro USB and 3.5mm Audio required. Options: FM tuner: If tuner HW is present it will be detected and supported by the Media application. Haptics SD Card (Micro SD recommended) DPAD, qwerty or 12/20 key keyboards all optional So we have an addition of a compass (iPhone is rumored to get that too), microUSB, accelerometer, light sensors, required aGPS, there's that ol' Multi-touch and some high end processors on board. Gone is also anything less than VGA for resolution, which is something we welcome. There we have it...think this all sounds legit? Can you (and the market) wait till 2010? Actually, I don't think it's all good and nice... 1) What the heck is FWVGA? 854×480 is not much better than WVGA, which is already more compliant with the industry, IMHO. Why do we need a new display resolution, just for 54x480=25920 pixels? (or 54 single lines, which is only 6,75% increase over WVGA) 2) There's a requirement about virtually everything, even aGPS (which is ridiculus) but nothing specific exist about the battery capacity? I would like it better if there was some mAmps there, in the list. 3) Multi-touch... Well, although it's really nice for me to see it there, I'm also amazed how barefaced MS can be. I really remember it very well the times when MS and MS fan-boys defended pressure based displays and talked about how nice a stylus is! Now, I'm sure they will start discovering the "WOW" parts of a capacitive display. (The standard procedure: abandon at once!) 4) aGPS requirement is absolutely nonsense. Why would everyone have a GPS? For location based services, MS should have made use of cell-based triangulation services etc. but of course, it's not all bad. Actually, there are a lot of good things in that list for me: The most important good is the MicroUSB and 3.5mm jack, finally. BT 2.1, wifi and more sensors will definitely add to every users phone experience. Edited May 13, 2009 by Emre SUMENGEN
Guest thescope Posted May 13, 2009 Report Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) Good news! Force all devices to have GL ES so we all get killer GPU's :D Multi Touch - now we can realy kick some Apple ass :lol: (about time?!?) RAM - yes please! Edited May 13, 2009 by thescope
Guest thescope Posted May 13, 2009 Report Posted May 13, 2009 fake sure The timing sounds about right to me Device manufacturers need to know at least 1 year before they start making new phones what will be in them for budgets. and at last 6 months before hardware design is complete, if they need to add a different GPU they would need to start all over.
Guest lastnikita Posted May 13, 2009 Report Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) sounds stupid, those rumors are just there to make people talk about WM7, which works quite well apparently. WM7 is so far from now, you know for sure specs will change till we get there. Edited May 13, 2009 by lastnikita
Guest lushomnia Posted May 13, 2009 Report Posted May 13, 2009 WM7 Spec I read bout the spec at the above link. Sounds kind of unrealistic.
Guest ErGo_404 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Posted May 13, 2009 Actually, I don't think it's all good and nice... 1) What the heck is FWVGA? 854×480 is not much better than WVGA, which is already more compliant with the industry, IMHO. Why do we need a new display resolution, just for 54x480=25920 pixels? (or 54 single lines, which is only 6,75% increase over WVGA) 2) There's a requirement about virtually everything, even aGPS (which is ridiculus) but nothing specific exist about the battery capacity? I would like it better if there was some mAmps there, in the list. 3) Multi-touch... Well, although it's really nice for me to see it there, I'm also amazed how barefaced MS can be. I really remember it very well the times when MS and MS fan-boys defended pressure based displays and talked about how nice a stylus is! Now, I'm sure they will start discovering the "WOW" parts of a capacitive display. (The standard procedure: abandon at once!) 4) aGPS requirement is absolutely nonsense. Why would everyone have a GPS? For location based services, MS should have made use of cell-based triangulation services etc. but of course, it's not all bad. Actually, there are a lot of good things in that list for me: The most important good is the MicroUSB and 3.5mm jack, finally. BT 2.1, wifi and more sensors will definitely add to every users phone experience. Even if it seems to me that there is too much requirements and for most points I totally agree with you, I just don't agree with you for the third point. There is indeed a resistive touchscreen which supports multitouch. I even saw a demo vid with it (was it posted here ?).
Guest aceofrazgriz Posted May 13, 2009 Report Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) They're missing BT3.0 btw... But all i want is Tegra in my next mobile. Then i'll be happy. And Emre... aGPS, not "a GPS." aGPS is cell triangulation. Also, i HATE capacitive screens. I really hope future devices tap into that resistive multitouch tech i've seen. Edited May 13, 2009 by aceofrazgriz
Guest eRoS08 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) Display: WVGA (800×480) or FWVGA (854×480) 3.5” or greater diagonal Minimum requeriments 800x480 with a minimum of 3.5" screen??? I absolutely don't think so.... By the way, as far as I know apple has the exclusive of capacitive and touchscreens so... :D Edited May 13, 2009 by eRoS08
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