Guest tedkord Posted July 6, 2009 Report Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) I understand that WinMo currently limits color depth to 65k colors. However... Here's what I don't understand. I have a Cowon Q5W, which has a 5" 800x480 LCD. It runs WinCE 5.0, the precursor to current Windows Mobile builds, and it runs 16M colors. How can a several year old version of the OS do 24-bit color, but the current crop can't? BTW, the Q5W runs on a 600MHz AMD Alchemy MIPS processor, so I would think the 800MHz ARM in the Omnia II could handle the added color depth. And the Q5W plays back all types of video files (including divx/xvid which are pretty cpu intensive) perfectly - no stutter, picture as good as it gets, crisp color w/o dithering detectible.) Here are the specs for the Q5W if anyone is interested. Edited July 6, 2009 by tedkord
Guest necosino Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 The screen is capable of 16M colors, but limited by the OS, just as you described ;)
Guest tedkord Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 The screen is capable of 16M colors, but limited by the OS, just as you described ;) I understand that, but my point is the Q5W, running on CE5.0, renders at 24-bit (16.7 million) color. Why does a LATER version of Windows CE have a lower color depth than an older one? CE 5.0 Professional was released in 2004. According to Cowon (and upheld by my eyes), the Q5W displays 16.7 million colors. I can detect no dithering in use playing xvid movies on it. It's like watching it on a 480p LCD TV. I guess it doesn't matter - the Omnia II is going to be 65K color, regardless of what any other device has, or what I want. I just hate to see such a beautiful display hamstrung with 16-bit color.
Guest Michael122w Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 I understand that, but my point is the Q5W, running on CE5.0, renders at 24-bit (16.7 million) color. Why does a LATER version of Windows CE have a lower color depth than an older one? CE 5.0 Professional was released in 2004. According to Cowon (and upheld by my eyes), the Q5W displays 16.7 million colors. I can detect no dithering in use playing xvid movies on it. It's like watching it on a 480p LCD TV. I guess it doesn't matter - the Omnia II is going to be 65K color, regardless of what any other device has, or what I want. I just hate to see such a beautiful display hamstrung with 16-bit color. It is the major drawback of the Windows Mobile operating system. I don't enjoy watching movies on my omnia nearly as much as on 16M colour devices. I won't be upgrading my phone to another WiMo only capable of displaying 64K colour.
Guest Ingvarr Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) You can have full 24-bit support for movies in Windows Mobile and Windows CE - by using of hardware overlays on hardware that supports it. This provides dedicated video surface that can be any bit depth. WM GUI still will be limited to 16 bit though. Edited July 7, 2009 by Ingvarr
Guest DJRedLine Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 News says that OmniaII is symbian~ I thought Omnia HD was symbian and Omnia II was WinMo
Guest aceofrazgriz Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 I thought Omnia HD was symbian and Omnia II was WinMo Hes got it right.
Guest tedkord Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 You can have full 24-bit support for movies in Windows Mobile and Windows CE - by using of hardware overlays on hardware that supports it. This provides dedicated video surface that can be any bit depth. WM GUI still will be limited to 16 bit though. I see. So is it possible with what we know of the Omnia II? Does it require the proper video player? Say CorePlayer? I'm not really concerned with GUI color depth but rather multimedia. Thanks for the info, BTW.
Guest Ingvarr Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) I am not sure about video decoding/display capabilities of Omnia II GPU and how much will be actually exposed to video players. It will hugely depend on drivers too. As far as players concerned, CorePlayer and even TCPMP both have DirectDraw Overlay support for video output. Edited July 7, 2009 by Ingvarr
Guest Michael122w Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 I am not sure about video decoding/display capabilities of Omnia II GPU and how much will be actually exposed to video players. It will hugely depend on drivers too. As far as players concerned, CorePlayer and even TCPMP both have DirectDraw Overlay support for video output. Wow. There is a big difference in the colour between movies played in TCPMP and TouchPlayer. Touch Player gives distinct banding where there are subtle differences in the colours (eg on walls or a clear blue sky or dark grey space). TCPMP gives a much better transition. Is there a Picture Viewer that gives "overlay" type support?
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