de-brand

[Guest adzman808]

hi guys,

just wondered if there was any debrand info for the tg01..

probably showing my ignorance here (......) but my ol' nokia 6300 simply flew after a debrand (ie removing all telephony provider pre-installed stuff, like the boot up screen, themes & restricted features)

how easy would this be to do on my tg01 & is the benefit as noticeable on WM opposed to symbian?

i realise this won't unlock the phone ~ i just don't want to have to look at the word 'orange' whilst the phone boots up... :))

i notice that the toshiba official site now offers a 6.5 upgrade (i already have this os software oem installed)

could i reinstall wm6.5 from the toshiba site & over write the provided (ie orange) software?

cheers

adam

[Guest swollenballs]

i wanted to debrand as well but thinking twice i thought orange actually added value with their own menu system, phone would really bland otherwise. but if you are successful plz let me know

[Guest adzman808]

a cursorary google suggests 'flashing ROMs' & other things i don't understand (yet...)

i haven't really tried the orange screen, i dunno it looked a bit over populated... the toshiba one looks like a colour match chart, so i just have a pic, a few links & get my stuff from the start menu....

i did try the download of spb, was nice but perhaps a bit pricey for what it is...

i think re debranding maybe its a waste of time... i mean its windows, so how quick is it ever gonna boot up :)

if i make any progress i'll post results!

[Guest jasonrabbit]

The only possible de-brand we can do is to Hard Reset then do screen set up then before the phone loads cabs you need to soft reset this will stop Orange rom from loading but you do need to watch what you now do with the phone like picking today theme as this am cause all the cabs to load.

If you just want a WM6.5 rom as it comes then this is how to do it.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL

Edited January 1, 2010 by jasonrabbit

[Guest useyourfist]

i would also like to do this to see if it frees up ram or storage space

[Guest Neil5459]

This is not possible without someone developing a way of 'cooking' ROMs for the TG01.

The download from the Toshiba site will only give you the operator's version for the country you are in, so no real advantage there :)

Stopping the 'customisation' after a rest will only work for a relatively short time; the few times I tried it, the operator stuff always installed eventually.

At least the TG01 is blessed with ample storage memory (unlike my current HD2 which only has 130MB free due to the amount of space HTC Sense takes up); Program memory can be saved by just using a simple home screen- going to Settings/Today/Items and making sure the Toshiba and Orange custom screens are not selected.

[Guest adzman808]

The only possible de-brand we can do is to Hard Reset then do screen set up then before the phone loads cabs you need to soft reset this will stop Orange rom from loading but you do need to watch what you now do with the phone like picking today theme as this am cause all the cabs to load.

If you just want a WM6.5 rom as it comes then this is how to do it.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL

cheers, HNY to you too.

so just to clarify... (bare with me, i'm a little hungover still...)

1 hard reset (either via menu option or the thing you do booting it up whilst holding down various buttons)

2 let the phone start (?) go to start/settings/today ~ select desired options (which for me is neither orange nor toshiba home screen), then press ok & do a soft reset or don't press ok & do a soft reset?

but don't go back to the orange home screen cos it'll load the orange ROM?

does the hard reset not set the phone to how it was when it was brand new from orange or does it reset it to a generic toshiba default?

cheers

[Guest adzman808]

This is not possible without someone developing a way of 'cooking' ROMs for the TG01.

The download from the Toshiba site will only give you the operator's version for the country you are in, so no real advantage there :)

Stopping the 'customisation' after a rest will only work for a relatively short time; the few times I tried it, the operator stuff always installed eventually.

At least the TG01 is blessed with ample storage memory (unlike my current HD2 which only has 130MB free due to the amount of space HTC Sense takes up); Program memory can be saved by just using a simple home screen- going to Settings/Today/Items and making sure the Toshiba and Orange custom screens are not selected.

thanks :-)

if i ever needed it, would the download from the toshiba site restore my phone, in case i corupted the os/software or uninstalled something that i shouldn't?

cheers

[Guest useyourfist]

people are selling debrandede tg01 on ebay specifically saying that they are unbranded to the original toshiba software with no orange stuff ect i will ask them for more detail.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRAND-NEW-TOSHIBA-TG...=item3358c4bd79

EDIT they have toshiba factory firmware but are not allowed to sell i told him to look here if he wants to offer it to people

Edited January 1, 2010 by useyourfist

[Guest Neil5459]

thanks :-)

if i ever needed it, would the download from the toshiba site restore my phone, in case i corupted the os/software or uninstalled something that i shouldn't?

cheers

You are very unlikely to corrupt the OS to the point where a ROM flash is needed. If it gets to that state then a simple Factory Reset will do the trick and restore your phone to how it was when new- ie you lose anything you have installed or customised.

[Guest adzman808]

people are selling debrandede tg01 on ebay specifically saying that they are unbranded to the original toshiba software with no orange stuff ect i will ask them for more detail.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRAND-NEW-TOSHIBA-TG...=item3358c4bd79

EDIT they have toshiba factory firmware but are not allowed to sell i told him to look here if he wants to offer it to people

thanks for this, i emailed this guy via ebay (about 1 hr b4 you posted this!) & he said that if i went to his place (High Wycombe) he'd install the FW while i waited - he wants £20 for this (which assuming is about as hard as updating the bios on a laptop or deploying an image via ghost multicast or updating the FW on a symboian nokia) it sounds a bit steep... but then the tg01 wont be a very popular model* so he'll get less customers asking about it, compated to say a iphone or hd2 ~ even so, if i go for it, i might get him to make it unlocked as part of the price!

i asked round the local market 'unlockers' last wed & they didn't have a clue (about debranding it) they just said its too new...

i might sit on this a while... my phone still isn't a week old.... i'm not unhappy with it.... i wanna give it a while to make sure i've got a 'good one' before i void the (orange) warranty.

also i wouldn't mind seeing if i can get it debranded locally** so that i can go back & bitch at the vendor if goes wrong!

at least i know it can be debranded & how to debrand it & that's very easy to do, if you have twenty sheets & can get to High Wycombe !!!!

cheers - as a forum newbie, i gotta say you all rock :) & this place is as helpful as the cbr600rr forum i like too (which is a hell of a compliment !!)

thanks again

Adam

*no offence to the tg01, but it got terrible reviews, its only available on orange & they've just heavily discounted it on PAYG (which is why i bought it)

**i actually live quite near HW, but it's not a nice drive in the winter (tiny county roads)

[Guest adzman808]

You are very unlikely to corrupt the OS to the point where a ROM flash is needed. If it gets to that state then a simple Factory Reset will do the trick and restore your phone to how it was when new- ie you lose anything you have installed or customised.

thanks

i "discovered" sprite back up yesterday, so that's a little less worry at breaking things !!!

[Guest Neil5459]

thanks

i "discovered" sprite back up yesterday, so that's a little less worry at breaking things !!!

Beware of Sprite backup at the moment- the current version doesn't fully support WM6.5. Spb Backup V2 is fully WM6.5 compatible so a safer bet if you are buying!

Don't forget- take a 'basic' backup after you have things stable, which you can revert to. Restoring a recent backup may just restore the faults as well :)

£20 for a ROM flash 'in person' is pretty good value. Don't forget, Smartphones are much more complex than most normal phones and are a lot harder to modify. As you suggest though, I'd tend to use yours 'as is' for a while. The Orange branding is so minimal anyway, you'd gain little by a full de-brand apart from some awkward questions if it ever needed warranty repair.

[Guest vortexela]

The only possible de-brand we can do is to Hard Reset then do screen set up then before the phone loads cabs you need to soft reset this will stop Orange rom from loading but you do need to watch what you now do with the phone like picking today theme as this am cause all the cabs to load.

If you just want a WM6.5 rom as it comes then this is how to do it.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL

The below discussion topic in this forum contains useful details on how to stop the branded cabs from being auto installed. I used the ceregeditor (the link is provided in the thread) to access HKLM\Software\Toshiba\AutoCabInstall and then deleted all the entries that I didn't want to be installed. I can confirm that after stopping these cabs from installing (except coreplayer of course) I had over 200MB of free storage memory.

http://www.modaco.com/content-page/297057/...nguage/page/20/

[Guest xdalover]

The below discussion topic in this forum contains useful details on how to stop the branded cabs from being auto installed. I used the ceregeditor (the link is provided in the thread) to access HKLM\Software\Toshiba\AutoCabInstall and then deleted all the entries that I didn't want to be installed. I can confirm that after stopping these cabs from installing (except coreplayer of course) I had over 200MB of free storage memory.

http://www.modaco.com/content-page/297057/...nguage/page/20/

Italan ROM is unbraded. Perhaps some who is using this ROM can provide the information about free RAM available and we can compare.

Your idea of removing the AutoCabInstall keys is brilliant. I'll do it next time I update (if any).

[Guest Neil5459]

I can confirm that after stopping these cabs from installing (except coreplayer of course) I had over 200MB of free storage memory.

http://www.modaco.com/content-page/297057/...nguage/page/20/

Even with the default Orange installation you should have 230MB free under WM6.5 and 245MB under WM6.1. This is after manually removing the superfluous games and videos.

Good call on the auto-install though :)