Guest spammyspam Posted June 17, 2010 Report Posted June 17, 2010 What should I pick for my Froyo install and why? I think that a2sd+ is just a2sd with the dalvik cache on the SD card too. I'm not sure what this means, so is there any reason to use a2sd over a2sd+? And what's so wrong with Froyo's own implementation? It certainly sounds more elegant and straightforward...
Guest battletank Posted June 17, 2010 Report Posted June 17, 2010 What should I pick for my Froyo install and why? I think that a2sd+ is just a2sd with the dalvik cache on the SD card too. I'm not sure what this means, so is there any reason to use a2sd over a2sd+? And what's so wrong with Froyo's own implementation? It certainly sounds more elegant and straightforward... In addition to the hassle of having to manually move every app to the SD card manually, Froyo implementation requires any apps that load on boot (launchers, widgets, etc.) to be in internal memory. Some people prefer a2sd over a2sd+ because there is allegedly a performance improvement, although I've not really noticed this.
Guest Rich Cranney Posted June 17, 2010 Report Posted June 17, 2010 What should I pick for my Froyo install and why? I think that a2sd+ is just a2sd with the dalvik cache on the SD card too. I'm not sure what this means, so is there any reason to use a2sd over a2sd+? And what's so wrong with Froyo's own implementation? It certainly sounds more elegant and straightforward... I would also like to know this as I've never known.
Guest persko Posted June 18, 2010 Report Posted June 18, 2010 I would also like to know this as I've never known. To be able to move an application to SD card with froyo, the application need to be written for froyo, and have the feature enabled. This is what Android developer guide have to say about this feature: Beginning with API Level 8, you can allow your application to be installed on the external storage (for example, the device's SD card). This is an optional feature you can declare for your application with the android:installLocation manifest attribute. If you do not declare this attribute, your application will be installed on the internal storage only and it cannot be moved to the external storage. To allow the system to install your application on the external storage, modify your manifest file to include the android:installLocation attribute in the <manifest> element, with a value of either "preferExternal" or "auto". Per
Guest Scottland Posted June 18, 2010 Report Posted June 18, 2010 Having had a go with the Froyo A2SD I was really disappointed. I think this has confirmed for me, next time I change phone I'll be getting one with at least a gig of free space on /data - such as the GalaxyS and streak.
Guest tabsina Posted June 19, 2010 Report Posted June 19, 2010 In addition to the hassle of having to manually move every app to the SD card manually, Froyo implementation requires any apps that load on boot (launchers, widgets, etc.) to be in internal memory. Some people prefer a2sd over a2sd+ because there is allegedly a performance improvement, although I've not really noticed this. that makes sense to me.. you wouldn't want them to stop working when you mount your sd card, i think that is what they had in mind and they mentioned that in the keynote also if i understand correctly, if the option to copy to sd is available for that app, as chosen by the developer, my understanding was that froyo would automatically choose where the best place to store it would be, and if YOU wanted to control it, you could when you say manually - does that mean a2sd/+ doesn't let you choose? (i haven't tried either of them, or froyo version for that matter)
Guest CF Chong Posted June 19, 2010 Report Posted June 19, 2010 In Settings => Applications => Manage Applications, there are 4 tabs; namely; Download, Running, All and On SD card. Most of the apps in Download tab can be moved to SD card. Most of the apps that are part of the ROM cannot be moved to the SD card. When clicking on a particular app, the Application Info will be displayed. If the Moved to SD card button is disabled, that would mean that the app cannot be move from phone to SD card and vice versa. Even if the app can be moved to SD card, there is always a part of the app or data that would still remain in the phone. If like me, you have a large number of apps (so easy and convenient to download from market place), the space in the phone will run out very quickly. After moving around 50 downloaded apps to the SD card, there is only around 20MB of space left in the phone. The apps moved to the SD card are displayed in the On SD card tab. In contrast, with A2SD+ implementation, I still have around 70MB of space in the phone after installing around 100 downloaded apps. To the system, the apps are considered to be on the phone. Though the widgets are physically in the SD card, LauncherPro still considered these widgets are in the phone and have no problem displaying them. Using the Froyo native way, LauncherPro have problems with widgets moved to the SD card. The other good thing is even when the USB Storage is turned on, the apps in the SD card can still be executed. Though I have not tested this yet, I would presume that removing the SD card would cripple the system as the majority of the apps are in the SD card. ;)
Guest kubia Posted June 19, 2010 Report Posted June 19, 2010 Though I have not tested this yet, I would presume that removing the SD card would cripple the system as the majority of the apps are in the SD card. ;) that's probably true, but who would want to remove the sd card from the phone in the first place? :) the bottom line is this: the new froyo a2sd sucks (for now - maybe the final released version will be any better). i tried to use it and failed, for example many times when I moved an app it disappeared from the app list. don't know why, reboot helped. so either don't use a2sd and limit your number of apps or use the old-style a2sd or a2sd+. about the difference between those: 1. a2sd+ leaves more space on the phone (that's for sure) 2. some people think a2sd is faster (that's not for sure) i think thought that the difference can only be during app startup - loading dalvik-cache, so it's not that important, but that's just me. a2sd+ ftw :(
Guest grellanl Posted June 24, 2010 Report Posted June 24, 2010 that's probably true, but who would want to remove the sd card from the phone in the first place? :( the bottom line is this: the new froyo a2sd sucks (for now - maybe the final released version will be any better). i tried to use it and failed, for example many times when I moved an app it disappeared from the app list. don't know why, reboot helped. so either don't use a2sd and limit your number of apps or use the old-style a2sd or a2sd+. about the difference between those: 1. a2sd+ leaves more space on the phone (that's for sure) 2. some people think a2sd is faster (that's not for sure) i think thought that the difference can only be during app startup - loading dalvik-cache, so it's not that important, but that's just me. a2sd+ ftw ;) I've had GREAT results with the new a2sd (the Froyo-native implementation). But, and this (as they say) is a big BUT... In order for it to be *really* useful, you need to set the default install location to be on SD. Do this using an adb shell, then 'pm setInstallLocation 2' and everything you install from now on will go straight onto SD, whether the dev has gotten around to enabling this feature or not. This way I've installed every single thing on my phone to SD, with the exception of built-in stuff, LauncherPro, and a couple of widgets. I get antsy if I can't see at least 50MB free in /data! The performance of the new (ie Froyo native) a2sd implementation is great, even (surprisingly) on the class 2 4GB card the N1 is supplied with. BTW with LauncherPro if you find on the first boot that the icons haven't come up for some shortcuts on the desktop, just do menu > preferences > restart LauncherPro.
Guest xTc is loVe Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 The normal Ap2SD is faster i think! Without APPS2SD my phone boots longer and if i have my apps on sdcard it needs a while to load all apps! (Anoying)
Guest belim Posted June 25, 2010 Report Posted June 25, 2010 I personally think A2SD+ is much better than the Froyo native method. The biggest thing for me is that if you connect your phone to the computer and mount the SD card all your apps stop working. Incredibly irritating! Speed wise I think A2SD+ is quicker than native Froyo just from experience. I have not personally used the normal A2SD. But just for convenience etc I prefer A2SD+ ;)
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