Guest SpankyHam Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 Has anyone tried the google App Inventor yet? http://sites.google.com/site/appinventor/i...to-app-inventor Google's App Inventor is a visual programming language for creating mobile phone applications on Android devices. It provides both a great way to learn how to program and, arguably, the fastest method for creating mobile apps in the world. Registered, but waiting for the link to be sent over.
Guest solongmarriane Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 Haven't tried it, but I have registered. Looks interesting. I have to do some app programming for work so will definitely be considering this.
Guest psionandy Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 Haven't tried it, but I have registered. Looks interesting. I have to do some app programming for work so will definitely be considering this. I don't think its live to the general public yet.... but it does look interesting
Guest Basher52 Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 Haven't tried it, but I have registered. Looks interesting. I have to do some app programming for work so will definitely be considering this. Dito :) Iam waiting for Googles answer, but i think it will become a public project like Nokia and Palm Quick-Appdeveloper tools.
Guest Stevos Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 I've registered but not got access yet. It looks like a great idea and should be good for prototyping and simple apps, however unfortunately it doesn't export source code, just an APK. I'm guessing that without a source project to customise with real code it will lack power for serious developers. The Adobe Air for Android project looks like another interesting concept.
Guest solongmarriane Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 I've registered but not got access yet. It looks like a great idea and should be good for prototyping and simple apps, however unfortunately it doesn't export source code, just an APK. I'm guessing that without a source project to customise with real code it will lack power for serious developers. The Adobe Air for Android project looks like another interesting concept. I hadn't really read the specs closely. No source code!?!? That sucks. I was worried that the source code might not be very good - it usually isn't from visual tools - but it can be tidied and optimised later. But if there isn't any... Hmmm. Maybe I'll go back to my plan of getting down and dirty with Eclipse and the SDK :) Will probably still give App Inventor a try though. Should make a good prototyping tool. A bit like VB used to be for Windows - a quick way to design an interface, but you wouldn't want to use it to write your app! I'd forgotten about Adobe Air. Thanks for reminding me. Has the advantage of being multi-platform too I guess.
Guest BigBearMDC Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 An APK contains all the source code? Just decompile the CLASSES.SOMETHING file and you'll have it :)
Guest solongmarriane Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 An APK contains all the source code? Just decompile the CLASSES.SOMETHING file and you'll have it :D Ah, I see. That just shows where I am on the Android programming learning curve. :) Right at the very bottom!
Guest Simon O Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 I've registered but not got access yet. It looks like a great idea and should be good for prototyping and simple apps, however unfortunately it doesn't export source code, just an APK. I'm guessing that without a source project to customise with real code it will lack power for serious developers. The Adobe Air for Android project looks like another interesting concept. The Adobe Air SDK now requires Froyo :) They did produce an older SDK that supposively worked on 2.1 but it requires the use of a runtime which I never managed to get working on my Pulse.
Guest solongmarriane Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 The Adobe Air SDK now requires Froyo :D Ah well :P Looking on the bright side - it's one less thing I need investigate. :)
Guest Richard_Arkless Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 ive registered, im still waiting back from google, this will be my first phone that I will try to develop software on, hope it goes well :)
Guest solongmarriane Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Some Techcrunch articles that might be of interest... http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/12/android-app-inventor-demo http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/12/app-inven...-developer-kit/ http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/11/google-app-inventor/
Guest Stevos Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 An APK contains all the source code? Just decompile the CLASSES.SOMETHING file and you'll have it :angry: I'm guessing that decompiling an APK generated from this would lead to not entirely maintainable / modifiable source code (not structured properly, missing meaningful naming, resources etc) - but it could be worth a try. Has anyone got access to confirm if this is a useful approach? If the decompiled code has to be heavily refactored and restructured to get it into an SDK/eclipse project, then a lot of the benefits may be missed. At some stage they may update it to allow source export anyway. It depends whether they see this primarily as an educational and hobby tool or as a useful addition to the main SDK. The Adobe Air SDK now requires Froyo :D Damn. I downloaded it and put it on my (big) list of things I needed to experiment with. I guess I won't be doing much with it for the pulse then ;) Even so, it looks like it may be a useful framework going forward.
Guest BigBearMDC Posted July 14, 2010 Report Posted July 14, 2010 I'm guessing that decompiling an APK generated from this would lead to not entirely maintainable / modifiable source code (not structured properly, missing meaningful naming, resources etc) - but it could be worth a try. Has anyone got access to confirm if this is a useful approach? If the decompiled code has to be heavily refactored and restructured to get it into an SDK/eclipse project, then a lot of the benefits may be missed. At some stage they may update it to allow source export anyway. It depends whether they see this primarily as an educational and hobby tool or as a useful addition to the main SDK. Damn. I downloaded it and put it on my (big) list of things I needed to experiment with. I guess I won't be doing much with it for the pulse then :angry: Even so, it looks like it may be a useful framework going forward. I once decompiled testsigng to see what's going on in there. I was astonisched how well this worked! This is absolutely not comparable to Windows decompilers. You really see the whole code, all the various source files and classes, and from what I can tell even the variable names! So I think that's not different with APKs as they are mainly the same. Best regards, BigBear
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