People on Orange Network

[Guest PaulW21781]

Just a quick question...

Those who have rooted/flashed alternative ROM's and who are on Orange...

How many of you have issues connecting to "3G" data services, ie, using browser or something while the connection icon says 3G, and then when displaying H or G, data works fine??

Just want to try something if you fancy being a guinea pig :angry:

[Guest neilshoemark]

Just a quick question...

Those who have rooted/flashed alternative ROM's and who are on Orange...

How many of you have issues connecting to "3G" data services, ie, using browser or something while the connection icon says 3G, and then when displaying H or G, data works fine??

Just want to try something if you fancy being a guinea pig :angry:

I'm prepared to guinea pig :D

That's my exact problem, H & G works straight away and 3G just has the up arrow 90% of times. Mainly on Market and Browser

Edited July 14, 2010 by neilshoemark

[Guest PaulW21781]

Ok...

Can you add the following lines to your /system/build.prop file?? Quick instructional...

Use fakeflash

Boot into recovery/fakeflash

Go to partitions menu > mount /system

adb pull /system/build.prop build.prop

MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR BUILD.PROP FILE JUST INCASE IT DOESN'T WORK OR SOMETHING GOES WRONG DURING YOUR EDITS!!

Edit said build.prop file...

In the file, search for all entries starting with ro.ril and delete them, DONT delete the line rild.libpath

Now paste in the following at the top (or there abouts)

rild.libpath=/system/lib/libhtc_ril.so

ro.ril.enable.a52=0

ro.ril.enable.a53=1

ro.ril.hsdpa.category=8

ro.ril.hsupa.category=5

ro.ril.hsxpa=2

ro.ril.def.agps.mode=1

ro.ril.disable.mcc.filter=1

ro.ril.disable.fd.plmn.prefix=23402,23410,23411

ro.ril.enable.sdr=0

ro.ril.enable.dtm=1

ro.ril.gprsclass=12

ro.ril.hsdpa.category=8

ro.ril.hsupa.category=5

ro.ril.hsxpa=2

ro.ril.def.agps.mode=2

ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=1

ro.ril.enable.prl.recognition=1

ro.ril.oem.nosim.ecclist=911,112,999,000,08,118,120,122,110,119,995

ro.ril.oem.ecclist=911,112,999,000,08,118,120,122,110,119,995

# Commented out the following as I need to test these still...

#ro.ril.emc.mode=2

#ro.ril.enable.managed.roaming=1

#ro.ril.avoid.pdp.overlap=1

Save the build.prop file

adb push build.prop /system/build.prop

adb shell

(then in the adb shell)

chmod 644 /system/build.prop

Reboot and check...

It seems to be working for me now, I just want to see if it works for others!

Edited July 14, 2010 by PaulW21781

[Guest PaulW21781]

ps

I have no idea how the above "modification" will affect data use on other networks, so I'd strongly advise against building it into any build.prop files for generic ROM's...

[Guest theboxman]

Ok...

Can you add the following lines to your /system/build.prop file?? Quick instructional...

Use fakeflash

Boot into recovery/fakeflash

Go to partitions menu > mount /system

adb pull /system/build.prop build.prop

Edit said build.prop file...

In the file, search for all entries starting with ro.ril and delete them, DONT delete the line rild.libpath

Now paste in the following at the top (or there abouts)

rild.libpath=/system/lib/libhtc_ril.so

ro.ril.enable.a52=0

ro.ril.enable.a53=1

ro.ril.hsdpa.category=8

ro.ril.hsupa.category=5

ro.ril.hsxpa=2

ro.ril.def.agps.mode=1

ro.ril.disable.mcc.filter=1

ro.ril.disable.fd.plmn.prefix=23402,23410,23411

ro.ril.enable.sdr=0

ro.ril.enable.dtm=1

ro.ril.gprsclass=12

ro.ril.hsdpa.category=8

ro.ril.hsupa.category=5

ro.ril.hsxpa=2

ro.ril.def.agps.mode=2

ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=1

ro.ril.enable.prl.recognition=1

ro.ril.oem.nosim.ecclist=911,112,999,000,08,118,120,122,110,119,995

ro.ril.oem.ecclist=911,112,999,000,08,118,120,122,110,119,995

# Commented out the following as I need to test these still...

#ro.ril.emc.mode=2

#ro.ril.enable.managed.roaming=1

#ro.ril.avoid.pdp.overlap=1

Save the build.prop file

adb push build.prop /system/build.prop

adb shell

(then in the adb shell)

chmod 644 /system/build.prop

Reboot and check...

It seems to be working for me now, I just want to see if it works for others!

I'm on orange and now that you mention it might have that problem. I'll spend a day observing it then give your modification a shot and see how I got on. :-)

[Guest neilshoemark]

Ok, getting late a minute, I'll try this mod out in the morning and report straight back to you, if this works I will call you God :angry:

[Guest PaulW21781]

Just remember to make a backup of your build.prop before you edit it!!!! Just incase :angry:

[Guest neilshoemark]

Just remember to make a backup of your build.prop before you edit it!!!! Just incase :angry:

I can't find any difference, 3G still doesn't work for me well, I just find it switches over to H a lot quicker in a HSDPA area

[Guest bigdan35]

I can't find any difference, 3G still doesn't work for me well, I just find it switches over to H a lot quicker in a HSDPA area

Well, this used to happen on my Sony Ericsson W995, when I had that anyway.

I know it's not the same phone but it might be to do with Orange's Service, when I was living in North Staffordshire, I could NEVER connect to 3G whatsoever, but the moment my phone was on HSDPA, or GSM, happy days. Just check with Orange to see whether anything is wrong in that area, probs to do with the Desire, but still!

They'll give you awful lies too, just to try and fob you off but be persistent with them :angry:

[Guest PaulW21781]

Well, this used to happen on my Sony Ericsson W995, when I had that anyway.

I know it's not the same phone but it might be to do with Orange's Service, when I was living in North Staffordshire, I could NEVER connect to 3G whatsoever, but the moment my phone was on HSDPA, or GSM, happy days. Just check with Orange to see whether anything is wrong in that area, probs to do with the Desire, but still!

They'll give you awful lies too, just to try and fob you off but be persistent with them :angry:

Agreed, the amount of times I've been on the phone to them, they say "just replace the APN's" - does nothing...

I've been testing it today, it seems to be working here, but I need to get into town and try it there where it only gives 3G and no H...

[Guest franciswills]

I'll give it a go later, but it's worth checking with a friend that's also on Orange on a different phone whether they get 3G service for comparison. My 3G reception in central London is appalling, but then so are my friends on Orange with iPhones/Nokias. I've spoken to Orange a bunch of times and even they will admit that their capacity in this area is terrible.

Any more info on what your mods are actually doing?

[Guest PaulW21781]

Any more info on what your mods are actually doing?

The ro.ril options aren't very well documented to be fair... But from reading up on what is mentioned on googles docs, it does have some pretty interesting effects of how the radio on the phone actually works.

I've been looking at the build.prop from all "stock" ROM bases (even got the build.prop extracted from a friends phone who's is Orange branded) aswell as the French one available on here, and comparing those to others (O2, Tmob, Virgin, WWE), this is how the configs differ, so tried it on mine and at first glance it does seem to be working, so thought I'd put it out into the open and see if it helps other people too.

Either way, if it works then yay! If it doesn't, then its an easy enough job for rooted users to undo the changes without any resets/wipes/etc etc... as any change to build.prop is only as permanent as the file remains changed :angry:

Edited July 15, 2010 by PaulW21781

[Guest me227]

I can't say i've noticed any problems. Had a weak 3G signal and I'd get a connection error sometimes on the facebook app, I just assumed it was due to the weak signal. Might have to test this out.

[Guest CaspaTheGhost]

Very interested to know if this works! Know the exact issue you are talking about and as I work in central London I experience it a lot (along with what I would call associated network issues - like losing data totally, being unable to make calls - especially when experiencing the 3G issue, and incoming calls going straight to voicemail)

Running the generic ROM but know people have the same issue on stock one, if this works then it will be the thing that pushes me to root! Froyo has nearly got me to, but not enough to make me actually find/make the time to do it!

[Guest gromain]

Hey!

Thanks for the tips!

For the french users, I would really suggest to add these numbers to the ro.ril.oem.nosim.ecclist and ro.ril.oem.ecclist : 15,17,18,112.

It seems that these entries are for allowed emergency numbers in case no sim is present.

The lines should now look like these:

ro.ril.oem.nosim.ecclist=911,112,999,000,08,118,120,122,110,119,995,15,17,18,112

ro.ril.oem.ecclist=911,112,999,000,08,118,120,122,110,119,995,15,17,18,112

And by the way, I'm testing the changes right now!

Edited July 16, 2010 by gromain

[Guest kayceejayh]

Does this work?

[Guest Dr_Ash]

unfortunately this seemed to make no difference for me.....

[Guest JulesB]

I would agree with others that the problem appears to be with the capacity of the Orange 3G network rather than a problem with the phone. I don't usually have too much problems with 3G signals out of the main population areas, but around London, and particularly the mainline stations, it is terrible. It is very frustrating trying to do anything on 3G around Euston, but once the train is a few miles north of the station, the 3G performance usually improves.

[Guest smumford]

I sometimes have this problem, but I think it was the same when I had the stock orange ROM installed. Think it is probably the network!