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[Guest Daniel Williamson]

Hi guys i thought this was the best place to solve my troubles, im looking for a replacement for my tmobile pulse, and have narrow my choices down to two:

Acer liquid

or

Motorola milestone

Im willing to spend a maximum of £300.

I really don't know which one to get, i have seen the acer liquid brand new unlocked for £250 or the milestone used but mint condition at CEX for around £295.

I know posting on here may give biased results but i would like to here any regrets people had buying the liquid and whether they would have got the milestone if they had the money.

Thanks

Dan

[Guest phhusson]

Hi guys i thought this was the best place to solve my troubles, im looking for a replacement for my tmobile pulse, and have narrow my choices down to two:

Acer liquid

or

Motorola milestone

Im willing to spend a maximum of £300.

I really don't know which one to get, i have seen the acer liquid brand new unlocked for £250 or the milestone used but mint condition at CEX for around £295.

I know posting on here may give biased results but i would like to here any regrets people had buying the liquid and whether they would have got the milestone if they had the money.

Thanks

Dan

Liquid is really a great device, but it's really a low end device compared to the milestone, I can't see any advantage of the liquid on milestone, but the cpu.

Milestone has better GPU and better touchscreen (it has an actual multitouch)

[Guest Scsiborg]

Liquid is really a great device, but it's really a low end device compared to the milestone, I can't see any advantage of the liquid on milestone, but the cpu.

Milestone has better GPU and better touchscreen (it has an actual multitouch)

Im inclined to agree, however for £300 it would have to be a Desire. Ive seen network locked ones for as little as £285 (new)

[Guest Daniel Williamson]

Im inclined to agree, however for £300 it would have to be a Desire. Ive seen network locked ones for as little as £285 (new)

Thanks for your quick reply's and advice :(

One major flaw of the milestone is that the bootloader is locked..

Where did you see the Desire for £285???? :( I really just need the phone to be on t-mobile

Thanks

Dan

[Guest phhusson]

Im inclined to agree, however for £300 it would have to be a Desire. Ive seen network locked ones for as little as £285 (new)

???

Desire ~= Liquid but for the memory

There is no point in getting Desire, I'd rather take the milestone ...

[Guest HustlinDaily]

But Desire is so beautiful.

How much can you get a Galaxy S for? I know Samsung is pricing that very aggressively.

[Guest Rajit]

milestone and liquid were my choice.. i would have gone for milestone, but it was not available at that time in india (was released a month later)..

plus i was sold on the looks of milestone (i know its not everyone's taste, but i love it)

but if you're not able to get your hands on a milestone.. don't hesitate going for liquid.. its a really great device... been loving it everyday since i bought it

[Guest HustlinDaily]

Milestone doesn't allow for custom roms due to locked bootloader.

And now there are rumors that Motorola won't provide Froyo for the phone- http://phandroid.com/2010/07/21/froyo-for-...till-uncertain/

At least the Liquid has a near complete FroYo port out there.

[Guest Daniel Williamson]

milestone and liquid were my choice.. i would have gone for milestone, but it was not available at that time in india (was released a month later)..

plus i was sold on the looks of milestone (i know its not everyone's taste, but i love it)

but if you're not able to get your hands on a milestone.. don't hesitate going for liquid.. its a really great device... been loving it everyday since i bought it

I agree with you when it comes to the looks and the build quality looks good.

As i said before possible downsides could be that the bootloader is locked and maybe no update to 2.2 thats about it.

I think for the extra £50 the milestone maybe worth it...

Also the samsung galaxy s - the cheapest i have seen it was £430 for the 8Gb :(

Thanks

Dan

[Guest Daniel Williamson]

Milestone doesn't allow for custom roms due to locked bootloader.

And now there are rumors that Motorola won't provide Froyo for the phone- http://phandroid.com/2010/07/21/froyo-for-...till-uncertain/

At least the Liquid has a near complete FroYo port out there.

Sorry didnt see this aha.

Is the 2.2 rom for liquid stable?

Dan

[Guest apecross]

if i were you i go for the milestone, yes you don't have custom roms but you have a faster gpu and the cpu can be overclocked only with root access.plus, you have a real multitouch and better materials.

But if you want to spend less you'll probably love liquid, it's giving me a lot of satisfaction...

a lot of developers are doing very very good works on it...

and i don't recommend you to buy a desire or a nexus because they are like a liquid, only difference is the display and the memory, but for the rest is the same, look at some benchmark and you'll see

[Guest jdouce]

Thanks for your quick reply's and advice :(

One major flaw of the milestone is that the bootloader is locked..

Where did you see the Desire for £285???? :( I really just need the phone to be on t-mobile

Thanks

Dan

I just sold one last night for 325 on ebay. So have a look to see if any are ending durring the week when prices are cheeper.

[Guest bais]

Milestone has a really better GPU, but Liquid has a better CPU I think. Even if you overclock the Milestone the CPU still will be slower than a Snappy (At least slower than a 1ghz Snapdragon, dunno if 768 Snapdragon is still fast, but you can overclock if you want :().

But yeah Milestone has a keyboard, better touch screen and better finition.

[Guest apecross]

The omap cpu of the milestone is faster compared to a snapdragon at the same frequencies, so if you overclock it you'll get a very powerful device,better than a nexus with eclair.

if motorola upgrade it to froyo, then it will be far better than a nexus, apart from the ram size

[Guest Scsiborg]

Thanks for your quick reply's and advice :(

One major flaw of the milestone is that the bootloader is locked..

Where did you see the Desire for £285???? :( I really just need the phone to be on t-mobile

Thanks

Dan

They are on Ebay all the time

[Guest xaueious]

The omap cpu of the milestone is faster compared to a snapdragon at the same frequencies, so if you overclock it you'll get a very powerful device,better than a nexus with eclair.

if motorola upgrade it to froyo, then it will be far better than a nexus, apart from the ram size

Where did you hear that o_O? Do you work for Motorola?

[Guest apecross]

Where did you hear that o_O? Do you work for Motorola?

ah ah ah no i'm not :( I own a liquid and i'm very happy with it!Can you find out another device that is powerful, supported by developers and not so expensive like this? :(

btw, you can do some search on google and you'll find out that the cpu are pretty the same (but the clock is a lot different- 1ghz or 768mhz vs 550mhz) but milestone have a way better gpu that helps a lot the processor especially in videos and gaming.

the choice are 2: if you want to play a lot, go for the motorola and maybe overclock it, it's cpu can reach stable 800-900mhz (the same of the liquid); if you are not interested in playing you should go for a snapdragon device that is fast enough to do all the other things without problems.

[Guest xaueious]

The Snapdragon platform bests the OMAP in the Motorola Droid/Milestone in every CPU and GPU benchmark I've seen. That's why I was asking if you worked for Motorola.

You can't do much with the locked bootloader of the Milestone. It might not even get Froyo. So it would be bad advice.

The only reason to favor the Milestone/Droid is for the hardware keyboard and the touchscreen.

Edited July 26, 2010 by xaueious

[Guest HustlinDaily]

An OMAP processor at 1GHz beasts the Snapdragon at 1GHz. Will show my proof later.

[Guest apecross]

The Snapdragon platform bests the OMAP in the Motorola Droid/Milestone in every CPU and GPU benchmark I've seen. That's why I was asking if you worked for Motorola.

You can't do much with the locked bootloader of the Milestone. It might not even get Froyo. So it would be bad advice.

The only reason to favor the Milestone/Droid is for the hardware keyboard and the touchscreen.

if you note it, in the recent benchmarks a lot of time the nexus is equipped with froyo and all other phones with eclair.

it's for this reason that i wrote that if the droid / mileston get froyo, they'll blow the nexus one!

in the gpu benchmarks it's impossible to see the snapdragon winning apart of the neocore but that's because was developed for the qualcomm processors...

[Guest HustlinDaily]

I remember reading somewhere that OMAP processors use less power consumption than Snapdragon processors.

Also read that the separate GPU makes their graphic performance better.

Look at the benchmarks of the Droid X (Cortex A8 based 1GHz OMAP) v Nexus/Desire/Evo/Incredible/Liquid/etc (Snapdragon) on Eclair. It blows them away.

Obviously Snapdragon is no slouch but OMAP is considered to be a better overall processor.

[Guest bais]

Droid X OMAP is different from the Milestone OMAP I think.

[Guest phhusson]

I remember reading somewhere that OMAP processors use less power consumption than Snapdragon processors.

There are dozens of different omap versions, and at least three snapdragon version, just comparing omap vs snapdragon is a total nonsense

Also read that the separate GPU makes their graphic performance better.

None of them have separate GPU, both have the GPU integrated in the soc.

Look at the benchmarks of the Droid X (Cortex A8 based 1GHz OMAP) v Nexus/Desire/Evo/Incredible/Liquid/etc (Snapdragon) on Eclair. It blows them away.

Benchmark of what ?

NAND ? GPU ?

Yeah it's likely it's faster.

Obviously Snapdragon is no slouch but OMAP is considered to be a better overall processor.

Processor, I don't believe so (they use the same ARM core, the only possible differences are in caches and memory links), for the whole system-on-chip, it's the always last one released that blows up. Wait for Snapdragon 8250A, 8260 or 8272, and snapdragon will go first back...