Pulse/iphone question please

[Guest chris9181]

Hi

We have two pulses in our house (me and my daughter). My daughter is unfortunately thinking of changing to an iphone 3g and my question is this:

The sim she currently has in her pulse is PAYG and if she tops up £10 per month she gets free internet/texts the next month. if the iphone is unlocked, can her T-Mobile sim go in the iphone and she carries on with the same deal?

I thought i had heard the iphone sims are smaller but i could be wrong

Cheers

Chris

[Guest Basher52]

she can change. Only iphone 4 is using microsim, which you make outof your normal sim by cutting. Google for more.

[Guest craigb244]

why she down-grading???? :)

[Guest Azurren]

why she down-grading???? :D

Peer Pressure? As a parent you should put a stop to it :)

[Guest Speckles]

Kids want iPhones because there friends have iPhone's. We all know iPhone's are crap (I wouldn't have one given to me, well I would, but I'd sell it on ebay), but some people think they are the best and nothing else is even worth considering (apart from a newer phone designed by Apple)

This video describes it very well:

[Guest chris9181]

Kids want iPhones because there friends have iPhone's. We all know iPhone's are crap (I wouldn't have one given to me, well I would, but I'd sell it on ebay), but some people think they are the best and nothing else is even worth considering (apart from a newer phone designed by Apple)

This video describes it very well:

I will need to have a chat with her, but seriously, is the iphone 3g really worse than the pulse? And if so, in what ways?

[Guest Speckles]

Yes, the Pulse is better than the iPhone 3G in both hardware (marginally) and OS (Personally I think Android is much better than iOS).

3GS is much better than Pulse hardware (faster processor, more RAM, although the same small 320x480 screen).

I'm going to assume she'll want a few things: Texting, Facebook and other apps that her friends are using. Facebook is apparently better on the iPhone.

So if your going for an iPhone, get at least the 3GS.

[Guest Azurren]

Tbh the pulse is = to the iPhone 3gs

But that's only because the Pulse Can't multitask. Any android phone that can is waaaaaaaay better than any iPhone :)

But at the end of the day having your kid running around with a £150 worth of phone is bad enough! But hell if she lost or had her iPhone stolen :D

Just make it clear to her that the iPhone can do less than her pulse and that she will have to pay for almost every app you can download for free with android. (Games, useful apps etc.)

[Guest JimJam707]

Tbh the pulse is = to the iPhone 3gs

But that's only because the Pulse Can't multitask. Any android phone that can is waaaaaaaay better than any iPhone :)

But at the end of the day having your kid running around with a £150 worth of phone is bad enough! But hell if she lost or had her iPhone stolen :D

Just make it clear to her that the iPhone can do less than her pulse and that she will have to pay for almost every app you can download for free with android. (Games, useful apps etc.)

Yeah. Someone's more likely to steal an iPhone than a Pulse.

[Guest Speckles]

Tbh the pulse is = to the iPhone 3gs

But that's only because the Pulse Can't multitask. Any android phone that can is waaaaaaaay better than any iPhone :)

I'd have to disagree here. The 3GS has 256 MB RAM and a 600Mhz processor which is much better than the Pulse's 128MB RAM. With the latest OS which you can update a 3GS too, you can now also multitask and it does it quite well.

But I must agree that Android 2.1 easily tramples over Apples iOS.

If we compare price-wise, the iPhone 3GS is £419 and so the Pulse at £149 (and sometimes offered at £99) is a clear winner.

Comparing the iPhone 3GS against the similarly priced Samsung Galaxy S is no comparison. The Samsung will trample over the iPhone in every way.

Edited August 8, 2010 by Speckles

[Guest Azurren]

I'd have to disagree here. The 3GS has 256 MB RAM and a 600Mhz processor which is much better than the Pulse's 128MB RAM. With the latest OS which you can update a 3GS too, you can now also multitask and it does it quite well.

But I must agree that Android 2.1 easily tramples over Apples iOS.

If we compare price-wise, the iPhone 3GS is £419 and so the Pulse at £149 (and sometimes offered at £99) is a clear winner.

Comparing the iPhone 3GS against the similarly priced Samsung Galaxy S is no comparison. The Samsung will trample over the iPhone in every way.

Can you really call what the iPhone does multitasking though?

I mean, the pulse has a "recently used apps" list :)

[Guest Speckles]

I'd say the iPhone's multitasking is better than the Pulse's. On the former you can swap between applications easily and keep everything your working on. Where as on the Pulse you normally find out that one of your apps has been killed due to lack of ram and started afresh (which of course, can kill something else).

Heck, I can't even use the browser without it killing the launcher to make more memory available. Then when I quit the browser, it can take upto 10 seconds to put my home screen back to normal (during which time I get the usual "stopped responding" message and have to click 'Wait').

[Guest thealexweb]

I am in the progress of making the same move except to a 3GS, I do the £10 a month topup for the free data transfer and its not definite she will continue to get the free data transfer, you'll have to read through all the terms and conditions and go a T-Mobile to check.

[Guest BigBearMDC]

First, chnaging the phone should be poosible without even to inform your operator. The iPhone 3G has a normal SIM card, so that shouldn't be a problem either.

But:

from my point of view she's a yung girl, right? Hell she surely doesn't care about bytes and MHz's. The only thing that matters to her is the Apple logo on the non-removeable battery cover. Even if the iPhone had a 200MHz prcessor paired with 64 MB RAM she'd like to have it :)

I think you'll never be able to convince her to buy a Pulse because the specs are better (unless she's an grown up woman :D ). Even I would get an iPhone as my secondary one, just because its a cool phone :D (but I'd of course not pay 1000 bucks for this pice of iStandard hardware!!!).

Best regards,

BB

[Guest Theme Ishere]

I really love how everyone is cheering for the Pulse, but honestly, the Iphone 3g beats the Pulse in a lot of aspects(and I don't mean our geeky insistence that the hardware is more or less the same). Come on, the Pulse is a cheap phone, and even though I love it, I sometimes get annoyed how bad the multitasking works, how slow it is etc. YOu just don't have that with an IPhone. Still, I would never buy one, as I think Android is much better OS (and much more fun too). But comparing a 100£ phone with an...how much is an Iphone 3G without a contract? More than a pulse, that's for sure...is not fair anyway.

[Guest DanWilson]

Since my iPod, I'd need to jailbreak any Apple iDevice I touched. Apple locks everything down so much! My iPod Touch 2G can multitask better than the iPhone 3Gs because I have 50MB free RAM almost all the time (swap) and every app can multitask (no stupid Apple "Only this app but not this one, that one can only half multitask, etc.)

Apple can't make me happy until I mess with it.

(BTW go to jailbreakme.com on your iPod Touch or iPhone for insta-jailbreak!)

[Guest Speckles]

I really love how everyone is cheering for the Pulse, but honestly, the Iphone 3g beats the Pulse in a lot of aspects(and I don't mean our geeky insistence that the hardware is more or less the same). Come on, the Pulse is a cheap phone, and even though I love it, I sometimes get annoyed how bad the multitasking works, how slow it is etc. YOu just don't have that with an IPhone. Still, I would never buy one, as I think Android is much better OS (and much more fun too). But comparing a 100£ phone with an...how much is an Iphone 3G without a contract? More than a pulse, that's for sure...is not fair anyway.

The question is, Is bad multitasking better than no multitasking? Apple stated that the original iPhone 3G wasn't capable of multitasking because of it's hardware. Really, the Pulse should have had its multitasking disabled for the same reason, but it's a whole lot more difficult to do that to Android (and probably breaks the T&C's of Google).

But yes, Pulse is (was) £150. iPhone 3G (was) £419. Both are now discontinued. I wouldn't be suprised if they both had very similar cost-to-manufacture (after all, same amount of RAM, equivalent CPUs). I bet if the Pulse had an Apple logo on it people would pay £400 for it. If you could port iOS to Pulse, it would most likely be as fluid as it is on the iPhone.

[Guest DanWilson]

The question is, Is bad multitasking better than no multitasking? Apple stated that the original iPhone 3G wasn't capable of multitasking because of it's hardware. Really, the Pulse should have had its multitasking disabled for the same reason, but it's a whole lot more difficult to do that to Android (and probably breaks the T&C's of Google).

But yes, Pulse is (was) £150. iPhone 3G (was) £419. Both are now discontinued. I wouldn't be suprised if they both had very similar cost-to-manufacture (after all, same amount of RAM, equivalent CPUs). I bet if the Pulse had an Apple logo on it people would pay £400 for it. If you could port iOS to Pulse, it would most likely be as fluid as it is on the iPhone.

The 3G is very compatible with multitasking, just Apple want 3G user to buy an iPhone 4. Same as the way the iPhone 1 (the first one) and iPod Touch 1st Gen can't use iOS4 - Apple want the users of these to buy a new device. Both can probably run iOS 4 perfectly, just Apple need more cash, even though their loaded!

[Guest gusthy]

The 3G is very compatible with multitasking, just Apple want 3G user to buy an iPhone 4. Same as the way the iPhone 1 (the first one) and iPod Touch 1st Gen can't use iOS4 - Apple want the users of these to buy a new device. Both can probably run iOS 4 perfectly, just Apple need more cash, even though their loaded!

Hmmm, not really. There is a hack to run iOS multitasking on 3G, but users say it is really poor.

[Guest DanWilson]

Hmmm, not really. There is a hack to run iOS multitasking on 3G, but users say it is really poor.

Not iOS multitasking, because I multitasked in iOS 3.1.1 perfectly (and the iPod Touch 2G hardware is similar to iPhone 3G - I think)

Apples multitasking is poor, jailbreak multitasking is better. Instead of only running a part of the app in the background (Apple way) - I can have the whole app run in the background (jailbreak way. You decide upon which you prefer.

[Guest Speckles]

The Pulse is very compatible with multitasking too if you modify the OS, just like what your doing to modify the iPhone OS to get it to multitask.

What was said was that the Pulse multitasked badly due to lack or RAM.

What was also said was that the Apple version of multitasking was poor also (and by default, non-existant if you go for 3G model)

If you replace both with a custom implementation, they would both be much better.

People say iPhone's with 256MB of RAM (eg. 3GS) multitask much better, and no doubt a Pulse with 256MB would multitask much better too.

[Guest Bendolfc]

I have an iPhone 3GS as a company phone which I can use as I please pretty much but I like my pulse better and use it for all my web browsing etc,

. I can't beleive I had to root the iPhone to change the SMS ringtone (essential for my job). Changing the text message tone is a basic feature on pretty much every phone I've ever owned, the iPhone is shocking in that respect.