WOULD YOU BUY AN SPV AGAIN ??

February 6, 2003

Hi all, this is my first post so please go easy on me :)

Ive been reading this excellent forum for about a month in preperation for my phone upgrade on the 26th febuary.

Now i know that from reading your posts that the SPV is a great phone apart from alot of bugs and a lack of software compared to Symbian based phones.

But what id like to know is if you were in my position would you get an SPV again.

Ive been looking at the Spv or Nokia 7650 but now the p800 is a strong contender.

Thanks in advance for your help

Karmapolice

February 6, 2003

I would definitely buy the spv again.

If you have the time and patience to struggle for a few days to get rid of (nearly) all the faults and to do a bit of customization - you don't need to worry.

At least very few of the users in here had serious problems which couldn't have been handled by others.

As for me troubleshooting is fun :wink: if you think of what phone you get as a reward.

Waiting for the p800 would be a possibility, but i think you will just pay to much for it in the beginning (and for me it's also to big to carry around in my trousers).

Avoid the 7650. It's a hell of a brick and if you meet an spv user next time you'll get jealous as you've been never before :)

But all in all it's a decision that you have to take on your own :twisted:

February 6, 2003

I'd buy another SPV (only provisio being that it could be decertified); the only annoying problem at the moment that won't get fixed is that the casing scratches very easily, but I can live with that. IMHO the 7650 is a 1st generation brick and the P800 is a very expensive brick with comparitively limited storage. :)

February 6, 2003

I am Apple Mac user, I have always had Nokia Phones & I don't like windows BUT....

When looking to upgrade I always had a business style phone except the 8310 (big mistake).

I liked the idea that the T68i and 2 other Sony Erricson phones would Bluetooth up with my Mac, wow a Mac compatible phone!!

Then I saw the SPV checked it out and compared it, hmm looks very good.

Read some reviews & did some research on the Pros & Cons for both etc.

If I was going to get an SPV I wolud have to use a PC or get Virtual PC.

www.connectix.com

After long thought I decided on the more expensive SPV.

Since then I love it ok I cant leave it uncharged for days on end and its more of a fragile feeling phone but boy oh boy I am I pleased.

Against all my previous prinipals I owned a M.S related product, noone I knew could beleive until they saw the phone in the flesh and then most of them like the look/features of it.

So heres your answer....

Yes even though I don't like PC's or Microsoft I would still buy the SPV even if a Mac compatible Nokia came out I still would.

February 7, 2003

Hi vampyre-

this is propably the greatest compliment for the SPV - a Macuser who loves a MS product...

To Karmapolice: The SPV is the smartest phone you can buy at the moment. I was lucky enough to have a P800 (Developer pack) and a SPV within the same time so I was really able to compare both phones. See, I am here - guess wich phone I kept...

Cheers, Lutz

February 7, 2003

I'd buy another SPV (only provisio being that it could be decertified); the only annoying problem at the moment that won't get fixed is that the casing scratches very easily, but I can live with that. IMHO the 7650 is a 1st generation brick and the P800 is a very expensive brick with comparitively limited storage. :)

Agree - the 7650's outdated already (the sheer size of the damn thing!) and, in Denmark at any rate, the P800's in another price class altoghether. Don't underestimate the P800, tho' - it's a cracking phone and I'd have bought one if the DK-update hadn't been good enough (speed increase). The limited storage won't be a problem for long....

February 7, 2003

Don't underestimate the P800, tho' - it's a cracking phone and I'd have bought one if the DK-update hadn't been good enough (speed increase).

It is a nice phone, but it depends what you want - the P800 is much more of a PDA than the 7650 or SPV, and personally I couldn't justify spending a lot of money on it because I don't really need a PDA, it's more of a handy tool than an essential one.

The limited storage won't be a problem for long....

Well, look how long it took Sony to release large (standard, not Duo) Memory Sticks, and you can still only get them up to 128Mb AFAIK. Compare that to SDs at a quarter the size and available up to 512Mb and you start to wonder... Why do Sony always have to go and invent their own proprietary tech when existing products are perfectly good (Beta excluded :)); what was wrong with SD, XD etc?

you can't polish a turd

Have you tried :wink:

February 7, 2003

I own a P800 and the symbian programs are tiny compared to the MS counterparts. so 128mb in the symbian world equates to 256 in MS world…kind of like the effect I have between my iPaq and my Palm TT…I need a 256MB SD to store MyStuff on the iPaq but only 64Mb on the Palm…. Now that does not take in to account any movies or P@orn pics that some people carry around with them 8) ….but in general you cant compare storage usage on different platforms…BTW the P800 is a slooooooow PDA and a Slooooooooooow Phone….. with only a half days usage in phone mode for a Power Talker :cry:

February 7, 2003

One word YES :)

I loked at the Nokia but did not like the specs and the P800 is way too far out of my budget

for a phone.

February 7, 2003

It is a nice phone, but it depends what you want - the P800 is much more of a PDA than the 7650 or SPV, and personally I couldn't justify spending a lot of money on it because I don't really need a PDA, it's more of a handy tool than an essential one.

Aye, that's true enough. The SPV's size is one of it's biggest selling-points (and one of the reasons I'll keep it for sure now)

Well, look how long it took Sony to release large (standard, not Duo) Memory Sticks, and you can still only get them up to 128Mb AFAIK. Compare that to SDs at a quarter the size and available up to 512Mb and you start to wonder... Why do Sony always have to go and invent their own proprietary tech when existing products are perfectly good (Beta excluded :)); what was wrong with SD, XD etc?

My feelings exactly - typical bloody Sony. I love their products but it's damn annoying they can't stick to the established standards.

Have you tried :wink:

Erm....erm....might have done :wink:

February 7, 2003

BTW the P800 is a slooooooow PDA and a Slooooooooooow Phone….. with only a half days usage in phone mode for a Power Talker :cry:

Strange - I had the chance to try one for a couple of days recently, and it was excellent all round. No speed problems whatsoever. Having said that, the one I tried was brand new with no extra stuff installed on it. Glad I didn't buy one now, the SPV suits me just fine.

February 7, 2003

Before i first heard about the SPV, mid to late November was had actually started looking into getting a cheapish (£100-200) PDA, those Sony Clie's are _very_ nice, despite their OS.

Then after reading about the SPV and its early problems i instantly decided that was the phone for me. I needed a new phone and it had just enough PDA features to cover what i needed.

Only time i've looked back was once last week where it was getting so slow and unresponsive it was practically unusable, but after changing to the Plast'X home screen its running faster than it ever has before :)

February 7, 2003

I've used a P800 a fair bit and I haven't found it slow in the slightest, nor has it ever frozen. Despite this, though, I would definitely get an SPV.

Wyatt

February 7, 2003

I've used a P800 a fair bit and I haven't found it slow in the slightest,
Wyatt

New out of the Box no but put some Custom Ring tones and Pics of your callers, and lets tray a game or 2... then it gets slow...I moved most of my stuff on to the MS duo...leving 8 mb free in main memory..faster now BUT...when my mate calls it takes longer to retrive his pic and his ring tone from the MS Stick...even though I took the pic at lowest internal cam settings and the midi is just over 1kb....the Nokia 7650 is even sloer as soon as you start loaading it up and a mate has the new 3650 ( I think , model after the 7650) and its the same story....

February 7, 2003

In my opinion......

I have had the phone since December, although I have had similiar issues that most of us have experienced here, I must say that it is definately the best phone on the market. What is exceptionally brilliant is that you could expand the storage/memory to 512MB - on a phone!!!!!! and you could add endless applications to the phone.

And if application signing is scrapped...

Freedom.

February 7, 2003

No I wouldn't.

The SPV's a fine piece of techy kit. Were it "just" a pda with a GPRS connection then it'd still be pretty impressive. Alas, the fact that I have to use it as a phone rather spoils the damned thing.

Is it really too much to ask to not have to restart the phone when I wish to make a call? Yeah, this doesn't happen all the time, but it's damned annoying when you've been out for the night and someone wants to make a call etc.

February 7, 2003

A big thanks to all your replies...it seems that most of you are pretty happy with the SPV.

Your right when you say the 7650 is bulky and dated and the P800 isnt even here yet and will probably over priced anyway...I think ill get an SPV....just have to wait 19 days and counting :)

Karmapolice

February 7, 2003

well after lots of arguments with orange and a second replacement im happy with my spv and can finally say i dont regret the purchase!

but in saying that ive used a friends p800 with photo ids and doom, and gameboy emulator with a few roms installed aswell as ringtones and its is the amazing! i will definately get one sim free when its released.

but to carry arround all the time a phone that size can sometimes be a pain so it wont make my spv redundant :)

February 8, 2003

I'd buy all 50,000 of them if I had the money :) (don't ask me what for.)

February 14, 2003

I bought mine as an upgrade on the 1st of Feb. No regrets. I was also debating whether to buy it, as a lot of reviews I read were slating the phone. If you are a little bit techy it's perfect. Give it your average Joe and they might find it difficult to get to grips with. I had held on to my 6210 just in case the SPV wasn't right for me, but the 6210 is going in the papers this weekend.

It's not perfect - could do with a quicker processor (there are ways of over clocking, but I haven't gone down this route yet!!)

I have been compiling a review since I bought the phone see below.

Positives.

======

The phone is pretty neat, I think Ericson Nokia have a lot of catching up to do.

Its like carrying a pc with you. (minus word and Excel, although Im sure someone will come up with something for this soon)

Great screen resolution the best Ive seen on a phone.

Web browsing is well neat and its pretty quick. I have a promotional pack until end of april £6 pm unltd GPRS. The sites that are set up for the smartphone are quick, trying to access ordinary sites can be slow. Can also get access to wap sites which is good. Practicality of web browsing, I used empire direct site to get a price on a tv whilst in a shop talking to the sales assistant.

It can stream video clips direct from the net. (quality isnt that good but then its probably down to the fact that the stream is highly compressed, the trailers that come with the phone are also highly compressed). I have yet to try out a good quality clip, awaiting 128mb card.

Its got Media player for movies and mp3.

Voice notes (I can now throw out my £2.99 microphone from the gadget shop)

Synchs with outlook, for calendar, email, task list and contacts

Pocket powerpoint is pretty neat, allows viewing of powerpoints transferred from PC. Cannot edit Powerpoints, but I think you would be struggling given the size of screen.

Came with rebound supermario type game. Other games available to buy between £6 to £20 can download these direct to phone from orange website and be billed at month end.

There are other copies of free software floating around such as Invasion, a pretty neat space invaders type of game.

Battery life isnt too bad. I have been battering the web around 2 hours a day and charging overnight. I reckon once the novelty wears off on standard use battery should last 2 days.

T9 dictionary is self learning so new words are added automatically. Although this has been debated on forums.

Normal phone usage has not presented any real challenges, as a moderate phone user it has behaved itself quite well, contrary to other reviews I have read. It has crashed after an incoming call on one occasion leading me to remove the battery pack to reboot.

Negatives

Picture msging is slow.

Taking pictures, need to go through about 4 menu options, and create a dummy MMS message, the phone would benefit from a dedicated app for the camera instead of relying on messaging menus to do this.

Adding the camera slows it down, the phone could benefit from a faster processor.

Taking a picture is not Wysiwyg. The processor/screen refresh is around 1 to 2 seconds behind real time so you end up with a photo thats different to what you were viewing at the time the shutter was pressed.

Key pad is a bit small

Web browsing landscape option not available but would be much better.

Crashes now and again. Its crashed around 6 times so far in 14 days usually when you try and do too much at once.

It also helps if you power down once a day to clean out memory buffers and call stacks.

A bit on the heavy side compared to other phones on the market.

Text messaging is not as quick or fluent as the Nokia 6210, this is down to the keyboard size.

Only 8mb card with phone a 128mb card costs around £45

No reset key on the phone, need to remove battery when the phone crashes.

No mini keyboard available, as yet.

Overall for the first smart phone, this things wicked !!

:)

February 14, 2003

despite the recent problems I havehad I would buy it all over again. I want a phone with a good contacts list and calendar (not a PDA - I hate stylus input) and the SPV does it all and has a decent enough HTML browser. ONLY missing feature having been using my Nokia for the past few days) is Bluetooth - my bluetooth headset and nokia is sooo good that it will be the thing I miss once my replacement SPV arrives

February 14, 2003

Wow!! WHAT. A. RESPONSE. (!!)

:: I second everything above

:: Even with all the cons it's the best thing I have owned in tech. terms. Not taking into account my P 166MHz >> PII 300MHz >>> P3 800MHz - now my phone is better than my PC (oh no!) it only lacks a CDRW and a broadband.. Though SD is just as good as a CDR. hehe :)

:: I am not going back to anything not SmartPhone based ever again! Unless there is something so new and cool that dwarfs this OS. Phone-based features will improve and it will be the ultimate time management & communications OS - brilliant!

February 14, 2003

Hi together,

I already said that I would buy it again and that I made my friends wanting one. But one thing has to be said: I think a lot of us would have already returned that beast if this forum and the brainpower of it would not exist. I come here nearly every hour to see whats new, which bugs are sortet out or which crazy app/game is ready to play in my pockets. But I would have been very frustrated with that SPV without the community here since I am not very patient and not very much in to developing solutions for a product that should be working perfectly since I've paid 900 Euro for it (had to cos you wont get it in stores in Germany as you know).

Orange should pay the costs of this server. Without MoDaCo they would not have sold so much of the SPV and would have got a lot more replacement calls...

Cheers, Lutz

February 14, 2003

I nearly didnt buy mine and that would have been an absolute crime! Even though it's got a few teething troubles, I wouldnt ever go back to a normal phone. The SPV is fantastic. Considering I nearly ended up with a 7650 or one of the Sharp camera flip things..... I'm very pleased. And to think, the bloke in the Orange shop tried to tell me the Sharp thingy and the 7650 (I think it's sharp) were far better phones with more features and more potential. Yeah right.

February 14, 2003

I think your talking about the Panasonic as the "Sharp thingy"

as the Sharp GX10 is through Vodaphone only :)

The Panasonic is a good phone though.

Still an SPV for me ;)

Sign In

WOULD YOU BUY AN SPV AGAIN ??

Recommended Posts

Guest karmapolice

Guest Pidder

Guest HelloDave

Guest vampyre69

Guest lutzh

Guest Chris b.a.r.f.

Guest HelloDave

Guest NoBackUp

Guest awarner [MVP]

Guest Chris b.a.r.f.

Guest Chris b.a.r.f.

Guest Monolithix [MVP]

Guest yatpeak

Guest NoBackUp

Guest SANDMAN

Guest tom

Guest karmapolice

Guest Yousaf

Guest Firaas

Guest the.dude

Guest neilg

Guest madu

Guest lutzh

Guest toadvox

Guest awarner [MVP]

Please sign in to comment

Browse

Activity

Important Information