Myplayer and Beebplayer wifi/3g quality difference

[Guest G0DSPEED]

Afternoon lads,

Having finally got the market app working on my phone I'm enjoying a plethora of apps :( One of the areas i'm really interested in is viewing iplayer material and tv channels.

I first installed myplayer but thought it had a problem playing back streamed material. However after installing beebplayer the problem remains and it gives the impression of a codec issue (or even hardware if there is a built in decoder in the gpu?)

Both mine and my sons SF have this problem (both unrooted just unlocked) My friend who also has the SF and the myplayer/beebplayer apps (which we did root & R3) plays the streams fine ;)

The video stream is like what I used to see on the pc when you tried to play a divx/xvid but the codec wasn't correct. When a scene changed it left half the picture behind in artifacts until that portion of the screen changed and it gets refereshed.

Its a shame we didn't try both apps on my friends before we rooted & rommed it with R3 :)

Can someone see what their playback is like on the above 2 apps for streaming (wifi or 3g/high quality/low quality/inbuilt player or seperate video player it doesn't matter they all have the issue on our 2 SF's)

Would the R3 rom make a difference?

Any help appreicated as its doing my head in!

Cheers

G

Edited October 6, 2010 by G0DSPEED

[Guest shovon]

I'm pretty sure that what you see is what you get i'm afraid.

I believe its to do with the quality of the streams that Beebplayer tap into. They were never optimised for android.

I have accessed BBC Iplayer regularly on my Pulse using Beebplayer and have always had artifacts of some sort appearing frequently.

Read this from DaveJohnston's page (the maker of Beebplayer)

"This is where beebPlayer came in – allowing Android phones to access the streams intended for simpler phones* by simply reading the appropriate URLs. Unfortunately, the use of the mobile streams – which remember are designed for phones with small screens and not much CPU power – aren’t exactly beautiful on the big 3" screens that adorn most Android phones. The smearing, pixellation and sub-standard sound don’t exactly make for a cinematic viewing experience, but that wasn’t the point. The point was: “BBC iPlayer on my shiny new expensive phone!”

Edited October 5, 2010 by shovon

[Guest G0DSPEED]

You appear to of quoted me but not said anything! :)

[Guest shovon]

You appear to of quoted me but not said anything! ;)

I was just editing that! :)

The official BBC Iplayer for android will use Flash 10.1 for full quality.

As San Frans don't have a processor fast enough to run it, you might be stuck unless Flash Lite works.

Edited October 5, 2010 by shovon

[Guest G0DSPEED]

I was just editing that! :)

No there is definately a problem on my 2 SF's but not on my friends. we streamed a show on both devices side by side and on his we didn't have the problem at all. There is something not right either hardware/rom or software on my 2 phones compared to his. I understand what your saying by stream quality but its a different issue to standard 'smearing'. Its hard to explain unless you see it which I think I'll have to get him back round and post a video of them side by side on the same material.

Thanks for the reply (in the end! ;) )

[Guest shovon]

No there is definately a problem on my 2 SF's but not on my friends. we streamed a show on both devices side by side and on his we didn't have the problem at all. There is something not right either hardware/rom or software on my 2 phones compared to his. I understand what your saying by stream quality but its a different issue to standard 'smearing'. Its hard to explain unless you see it which I think I'll have to get him back round and post a video of them side by side on the same material.

Thanks for the reply (in the end! ;) )

OK you're welcome, we have crossed wires a bit here :)

[Guest G0DSPEED]

OK you're welcome, we have crossed wires a bit here :)

Well I can answer my own question. Its when beebplayer and myplayer streams are viewed over a wireless connection. When we were comparing my friends SF it was obviously (now) using 3G as it couldn't authenticate with my wireless router.

The picture over 3G (both lo & hi quality) is spot on whereas on wifi its an unwatchable garble!

I'm not sure why that may be as you would of thought it would be the other way round?

beebplayer is version 0.5.9 and myplayer is 0.99b

Anyone else wanna give them a go over 3g/wifi and see if they get the same results?

Cheers again

G

[Guest sipart]

Well I can answer my own question. Its when beebplayer and myplayer streams are viewed over a wireless connection. When we were comparing my friends SF it was obviously (now) using 3G as it couldn't authenticate with my wireless router.

The picture over 3G (both lo & hi quality) is spot on whereas on wifi its an unwatchable garble!

I'm not sure why that may be as you would of thought it would be the other way round?

beebplayer is version 0.5.9 and myplayer is 0.99b

Anyone else wanna give them a go over 3g/wifi and see if they get the same results?

Cheers again

G

I have R3 installed, tried a stream over wifi and 3g and it's equally as bad on either. If I squint and hold the phone at arms length its just about watchable (tried installing arcmedia but that made no difference). If I want to watch BBC content in bed I use my 3 year old ipod touch - it's crystal clear and perfect quality - sad (for Android users) but true.

[Guest piercy]

I have R3 installed, tried a stream over wifi and 3g and it's equally as bad on either. If I squint and hold the phone at arms length its just about watchable (tried installing arcmedia but that made no difference). If I want to watch BBC content in bed I use my 3 year old ipod touch - it's crystal clear and perfect quality - sad (for Android users) but true.

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Heres what i do to get fill quality from myplayer. First you need to install rockplayer from the market. Next in myplayer find your tv show and download it (yes download not stream it). Next open rockplayer find your download and play it in "System" mode. I watched a full episode of mock the week which appeared to be amazing quality. I did have problems in normal mode so in rock player when prompted make sure you select system.

Edited October 6, 2010 by piercy

[Guest G0DSPEED]

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Heres what i do to get fill quality from myplayer. First you need to install rockplayer from the market. Next in myplayer find your tv show and download it (yes download not stream it). Next open rockplayer find your download and play it in "System" mode. I watched a full episode of mock the week which appeared to be amazing quality. I did have problems in normal mode so in rock player when prompted make sure you select system.

Yeah I'd done this already to see what the quality was like, infact exactly the same procedure and I also noticed the audio jerking in 'normal mode'. This method is ok over wifi but via 3g would eat alot of allowance :)

For live (ish) tv I use tvcatchup (http://m.tvcatchup) which is very good quality.

There is definately a night and day difference between wifi & 3g streams on both of the players for some reason.