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Guest xeyaztian
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Do you think they'll make a second one? Or will they just release I different make phone with there name on it? I think if it has sold lots, they will make one called San Francisco 2!

Guest bugeyes
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Do you think they'll make a second one? Or will they just release I different make phone with there name on it? I think if it has sold lots, they will make one called San Francisco 2!

would be cool if they released the ZTE Z9 tablet, nice and cheap too probably

Guest 5867dude
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Doubt it, almost all San Francisco's have been unlocked, and they are probably loosing money on every sale, hoping to make it back from Top-Ups, but obviously that hasn't been the case. If you were Orange, would you make another unprofitable phone?

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Doubt it, almost all San Francisco's have been unlocked, and they are probably loosing money on every sale, hoping to make it back from Top-Ups, but obviously that hasn't been the case. If you were Orange, would you make another unprofitable phone?

I agree with you! I really doubt Orange do a lot of money at this phone. On every unlocked phone Orange lose a lot of profit!

Guest magicpork
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at least every phone still says Orange on its back....

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Guest xeyaztian
Posted

I hope they do, I'm sure they'll do one that looks the same but Id rather have a better version of the SF in a years time, but I do doubt the majority of everyday people have unlocked it though.

Guest Sasimikun
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A provider should rebrand the Huawei IDEOS X5 and release it during or just before Christmas, for around ~200€. Massive sales guaranteed. T-Mobile Pulse HD/2 anyone?

More info on the X5: http://www.gsmarena.com/froyodriven_huawei...d-news-2024.php

(X6 is too high end, if it's ever released in Europe. It will probably cost around the 300€ mark.

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I doubt it too, it has to be subsidized by a fair bit. But can always hope. :)

Guest ezablade
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Just because Orange may have got their fingers burned, no reason why ZTE won't go to Vodafone, 3 or O2 and say, look, this sold loads, and the owners are on your networks, do you want to buy our newer version???

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A provider should rebrand the Huawei IDEOS X5 and release it during or just before Christmas, for around ~200€. Massive sales guaranteed. T-Mobile Pulse HD/2 anyone?

More info on the X5: http://www.gsmarena.com/froyodriven_huawei...d-news-2024.php

(X6 is too high end, if it's ever released in Europe. It will probably cost around the 300€ mark.

Woa. Thanks for information on X5 and X6! I'd probably get one if they come out.

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Doubt it, almost all San Francisco's have been unlocked, and they are probably loosing money on every sale, hoping to make it back from Top-Ups, but obviously that hasn't been the case. If you were Orange, would you make another unprofitable phone?

What a perplexing post you have made. :)

How can they lose money on every sale? Are you saying Orange paid more than £99 per unit? Well let me tell you something, they didn't. They are making profit with every sale because they paid less than £99 per unit.

They're not making a loss with every sale. There wouldn't be a business if they did that.

Potential profit and downright loss are two very different things mate.

Guest 5867dude
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What a perplexing post you have made. :)

How can they lose money on every sale? Are you saying Orange paid more than £99 per unit? Well let me tell you something, they didn't. They are making profit with every sale because they paid less than £99 per unit.

They're not making a loss with every sale. There wouldn't be a business if they did that.

Potential profit and downright loss are two very different things mate.

No, most networks subsidise phones. They usually cover £15-£30 of the cost, and intend to get it back via top ups. Its why phone prices vary from network to network.

Wiki link, read the second paragraph.

Edited by 5867dude
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No, most networks subsidise phones. They usually cover £15-£30 of the cost, and intend to get it back via top ups. Its why phone prices vary from network to network.

Wiki link, read the second paragraph.

They will have factored unlocking into the price, sure some of us will have unlocked our sf and moved it to a new network, but a larger proportion of their sf customers wont know what unlocking, modding etc are.

Guest cliche guevara
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They will have factored unlocking into the price, sure some of us will have unlocked our sf and moved it to a new network, but a larger proportion of their sf customers wont know what unlocking, modding etc are.

In almost every other case I'd agree with you, but a huge amount of San Francisco owners heard about the phone through HUKD, which has a five thousand post long thread about how easy it is to unlock the phone, and install a custom ROM. I reckon a much higher percentage of SF owners have unlocked than Orange were budgetting for.

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