Guest Richard_Arkless Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Can I still install a theme on this?! With the high density level I mean. I really like the Blue S Theme and would like to install that one again. As long as it is made for cm 0.4 then yes Weve gone over what lcd density is but ill go over it again lcd density in simple terms makes everything smaller so that more items get displaced on the screen, Advantages? more screen realstate, makes it seem you got a higher resolution, text are easier to read Disadvantages: could in theory use more system resources but I havent noticed a speed difference and also some apps aint built for the lcd density so some apps aint always full screen Edited December 15, 2010 by Richard_Arkless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bixxs Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 this is my first post and i only want to say thanks to richard, best rom ive ever installed!! (and i tried nearly all) 250mb are yours! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nielzs Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Back on 0.3, 0ne of the files I deleted for my "personal" rom was the bootanimation. Did I unknowingly create the necessary space for my additional apps by doing that? Am I correct in concluding that space created anywhere in /system is space available for additional apps in /system/app? What are the consequences for deleting the boot animation and not replacing it with another one? Does the phone still boot? Or causes it to hang after the "Android" boot image? Would really like to know, cause more space = more speed = more fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richard_Arkless Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 What are the consequences for deleting the boot animation and not replacing it with another one? Does the phone still boot? Or causes it to hang after the "Android" boot image? Would really like to know, cause more space = more speed = more fun! It continues to boot, it will either have the default android loading screen or just a black screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Berndvh Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 This is a bug in cm6.1 port in general so its a bug in this rom and the original rom from tom, I think this bug isnt in the official cm roms The best I can say you do is install blade wifi fix which turns the wifi off then back on as soon as you turn on the screen and unlock it or wait for someone to find the fix hmm thnx for the reply i will try that! keep up the good work ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AntonioPT Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Back on 0.3, 0ne of the files I deleted for my "personal" rom was the bootanimation. Did I unknowingly create the necessary space for my additional apps by doing that? Am I correct in concluding that space created anywhere in /system is space available for additional apps in /system/app? Yes, /system and /system/app are on the same partition, so if you free space in some folder inside /system, you will have more space for putting apks in /system/app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AntonioPT Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Wow, amazing how "common knowledge" gets to be common. Enough of us "solved" the DT Apps2SD problem by removing RomManager, so we all assumed it was that specific app. But really, we're just back to a space problem! Crazy. But is Tom's 0.4 larger than 0.3? Is there more in /system/apps? Because I did try 0.4 and Flib's Gapps as a fresh install and had the problem. In 0.3, there was enough space, and I didn't have that problem there. But, I think there are plenty of apps that are better put into /data anyway for future updating purposes. Better to fill the rom with apps that aren't likely to change and are more critical to getting the initial system to run well. +1 to apps in /data. It's much easier to uninstall, replace and update apps in the /data partition, giving the user greater app control and freedom. IMHO, Rom Manager, Twitter, Maps, Facebook and every app that can be installed through the Market should either be placed on /data or not be in the ROM at all, as users can easily install ONLY the apps they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richard_Arkless Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 +1 to apps in /data. It's much easier to uninstall, replace and update apps in the /data partition, giving the user greater app control and freedom. IMHO, Rom Manager, Twitter, Maps, Facebook and every app that can be installed through the Market should either be placed on /data or not be in the ROM at all, as users can easily install ONLY the apps they want. So do you propose to move all gapps except for the market to data bacause you can now get them from the market, if so then im willing to create and upload a modified version of gapps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AntonioPT Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 So do you propose to move all gapps except for the market to data bacause you can now get them from the market, if so then im willing to create and upload a modified version of gapps That would be nice :) BTW, can you download Navigation from Market or does it come included with Maps? If you want any help let me know and I'll try to help when I have some free time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richard_Arkless Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) That would be nice :) BTW, can you download Navigation from Market or does it come included with Maps? If you want any help let me know and I'll try to help when I have some free time. it should be fairly simple to do considering the flb gapps has done most of the work when it comes to the updater script, ill also update the apps to the latest versions if I have time edit: do we need the 3 htc type apk's in the flb gapps Edited December 15, 2010 by Richard_Arkless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest adam p Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I am currently running AIO v3 - it used to always show a lot of running apps in ES Task Manager and only around 15M Available Memory, and would occasionaly reboot I have used a2sd to set lowmem-moderate and now I have fewer running apps (as per pre Froyo ROMS), more available memory and no reboots (so far!), but my swap partition is not fully used Shouldn't all of the infrequently used apps have been moved to swap to free up memory, rather than having to be killed off by memory management ? Is it that without 'lowmem-moderate' my swap partition was being filled up but couldn't accomodate enough apps and I therefore ran out of normal memory ? My swap partition is currently set to 32Mb (although it is reported as 59460 by 'free') - should I expand swap to be 64Mb and change lowmem back to default ? (which I could do while updating to AIO v4) Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest twrock Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 So do you propose to move all gapps except for the market to data bacause you can now get them from the market, if so then im willing to create and upload a modified version of gapps Interesting discussion. I'll weigh in. If you do that to the extreme, then you've got a bunch of wasted space in the /system partition that a lot of people won't be able to use anyway. I'm thinking you might as well install the "standard" set of apps there that most everyone wants to have when they finish the basic install. That seems close to what is happening at the moment. Is my thinking flawed? Personally, I have to modify whatever rom I want to use to make at least enough space for Chinese handwriting. But I think the percentage of people who really need the extra space in /system is pretty small. Might as well fill it with something. Those apps that can be updated via the Market will still get updated even if there is an extra copy left over in the rom. Is that not correct? And personally, I find it a little frustrating to boot into a rom for the first time and not be able to find the "standard" set of apps. So I'd suggest that even the apps that a lot of people will replace if they can (think Filemanager), still should show up in at least /data. Finally, I still don't understand why we aren't being given an error message during rom installation that the /system partition is over full. It gives the impression that the install worked, when it really didn't. Is this a function of the install script or Recovery? Just my $0.02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richard_Arkless Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I am currently running AIO v3 - it used to always show a lot of running apps in ES Task Manager and only around 15M Available Memory, and would occasionaly reboot I have used a2sd to set lowmem-moderate and now I have fewer running apps (as per pre Froyo ROMS), more available memory and no reboots (so far!), but my swap partition is not fully used Shouldn't all of the infrequently used apps have been moved to swap to free up memory, rather than having to be killed off by memory management ? Is it that without 'lowmem-moderate' my swap partition was being filled up but couldn't accomodate enough apps and I therefore ran out of normal memory ? My swap partition is currently set to 32Mb (although it is reported as 59460 by 'free') - should I expand swap to be 64Mb and change lowmem back to default ? (which I could do while updating to AIO v4) Thanks I havent messed with how it handles multitasking, its probably how cyanogenmod is setup, I expect they optimised it for high memory devices and because of that its better to keep them in memory as they are faster to retrieve The reason why it shows 59460 instead of 32 is because of compcache, it is like swap except it reserves itself in ram instead of in a partition or a file and then anything that goes into it gets compressed to save overall memory I would keep the swap the same size as 32mb is fine and maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richard_Arkless Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Interesting discussion. I'll weigh in. If you do that to the extreme, then you've got a bunch of wasted space in the /system partition that a lot of people won't be able to use anyway. I'm thinking you might as well install the "standard" set of apps there that most everyone wants to have when they finish the basic install. That seems close to what is happening at the moment. Is my thinking flawed? Personally, I have to modify whatever rom I want to use to make at least enough space for Chinese handwriting. But I think the percentage of people who really need the extra space in /system is pretty small. Might as well fill it with something. Those apps that can be updated via the Market will still get updated even if there is an extra copy left over in the rom. Is that not correct? And personally, I find it a little frustrating to boot into a rom for the first time and not be able to find the "standard" set of apps. So I'd suggest that even the apps that a lot of people will replace if they can (think Filemanager), still should show up in at least /data. Finally, I still don't understand why we aren't being given an error message during rom installation that the /system partition is over full. It gives the impression that the install worked, when it really didn't. Is this a function of the install script or Recovery? Just my $0.02. Free space in system My rom without gapps: 11.6mb My rom With flb gapps: 5mb My rom with my version of gapps: 7mb so its not much of a space difference, so should I keep it or just stick with flb's gapps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest adam p Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I havent messed with how it handles multitasking, its probably how cyanogenmod is setup, I expect they optimised it for high memory devices and because of that its better to keep them in memory as they are faster to retrieve The reason why it shows 59460 instead of 32 is because of compcache, it is like swap except it reserves itself in ram instead of in a partition or a file and then anything that goes into it gets compressed to save overall memory I would keep the swap the same size as 32mb is fine and maybe Hi Richard - thanks for the reply, but is there a bit missing from the end ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richard_Arkless Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Hi Richard - thanks for the reply, but is there a bit missing from the end ? Yea sorry I left it at that and went downstairs and when I got back I thought I finished typing lol I predict that it goes based on priority 1st use a moderate amount in memory 2nd move a bit to compache 3rd move a bit to swap so try reducing compcache and see if the free amount of swap decreases Edited December 15, 2010 by Richard_Arkless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richard_Arkless Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Ok I found something interesting format system then flash the rom = 11mb dont format and flash the rom = 7mb what? the rom should format the system shouldnt it maybe this is the reason twrock why 0.3 worked for you and 0.4 didnt, the fact that its not formatting before it flashes Edited December 15, 2010 by Richard_Arkless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xorti Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 is it possible to have vanilla framework instead of this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AntonioPT Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Interesting discussion. I'll weigh in. [...] If you do that to the extreme, then you've got a bunch of wasted space in the /system partition that a lot of people won't be able to use anyway. [...] And personally, I find it a little frustrating to boot into a rom for the first time and not be able to find the "standard" set of apps. So I'd suggest that even the apps that a lot of people will replace if they can (think Filemanager), still should show up in at least /data. Well, I propose that the apps from gapps-tiny (the essential that most users want - YouTube, GMail, Google Sync, Maps...) should be placed on /system (here's a list). The other non-essential apps (Facebook, Twitter, etc...), IMHO, should not even exist on a ROM. Again, this is just my honest opinion... do we need the 3 htc type apk's in the flb gapps Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AntonioPT Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Ok I found something interesting format system then flash the rom = 11mb dont format and flash the rom = 7mb what? the rom should format the system shouldnt it maybe this is the reason twrock why 0.3 worked for you and 0.4 didnt, the fact that its not formatting before it flashes Quoting CM 0.40's updater-script: format("MTD", "system"); It says that formats system, so I have no idea why you got different results... Edited December 15, 2010 by AntonioPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pulseuser1 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Hey, I'm coming from Tom G's 0.40 CM6.2 ROM, and I was wondering if i could download and flash this version over it without doing a factory reset and getting rid of all my apps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Berndvh Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Donations I dont want any money but what I really need is dropbox space so please as appreciation for this rom please use or send the referral link below to all your friends https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTY4MzY5OQ?src=global How it works 1. Click referral link above 2. Create account 3. Install dropbox client (YOU MUST DO THIS or else we wont get the 250mb of extra dropbox space for free!) i made an account and installed the client. but cant really see if you got 250mb of extra dropbox space. but if you did get it, the pleasure was all mine :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Berndvh Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Hey, I'm coming from Tom G's 0.40 CM6.2 ROM, and I was wondering if i could download and flash this version over it without doing a factory reset and getting rid of all my apps it should be no problem it is the same rom but with some extra additions to it. at least i did it without problems. just do a nandroid backup first to be sure :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richard_Arkless Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Quoting CM 0.40's updater-script: format("MTD", "system"); It says that formats system, so I have no idea why you got different results... I know its strange that I now suddenly have to wipe to get the extra free space If someone has any free time on their hands can someone see if you get the same outcome so 1st wipe system, flash the rom then reboot into android go into the terminal and type df and make a note of the disk free space for system in the terminal go back into the recovery and this time just flash the rom without manually formatting is it the same free space amount? Hey, I'm coming from Tom G's 0.40 CM6.2 ROM, and I was wondering if i could download and flash this version over it without doing a factory reset and getting rid of all my apps You dont need to wipe as this is based on that rom i made an account and installed the client. but cant really see if you got 250mb of extra dropbox space. but if you did get it, the pleasure was all mine :) yea I got a notification saying someone installed dropbox I just want to say this, when I put up that link I did not expect many people to use that link but suprisingly I get the notificiation every couple of hours or so, getting to the point, everyone THANK YOU This rom and tom's original cm port is probably our last thread of life for our poor pulses so im happy to continue making these roms Im also thankful that there is a large and great community that is continuing to look for amazing and new things on the web to make our phone more amazing Edited December 15, 2010 by Richard_Arkless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pulseuser1 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 it should be no problem it is the same rom but with some extra additions to it. at least i did it without problems. just do a nandroid backup first to be sure Okay, thank you Berndvh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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