Orange San Francisco display type

[Guest Roku]

Does Orange still have AMOLED display in San Francisco?

[Guest Jack Andrew :)]

Yes.

But its not AMOLED its just OLED B)

[Guest The-One]

Yes.

But its not AMOLED its just OLED B)

Its the same. Your eye cant notice any diferences between amoled and oled, amoled its just a type of oled with a diferent pixel control method.

Edited November 24, 2010 by The-One

[Guest no-ice]

GSMarena

[Guest Roku]

I'm asking this because it would not be the 1st time manufacturer changed OLED to TFT.

So I'm very close to ordering SF from Orange but if someone who got SF recently could verify it's OLED?

Edited November 24, 2010 by Roku

[Guest ballist1x]

how can you test?

[Guest tiggerlator]

Blacks are darker on oled than tft. cant think of any other way to check.

[Guest Azurren]

Blacks are darker on oled than tft. cant think of any other way to check.

People are still complaining about slight pink-ish tinges so yep, still AMOLED B)

[Guest IPB_Refugee]

I'm asking this because it would not be the 1st time manufacturer changed OLED to TFT.

So I'm very close to ordering SF from Orange but if someone who got SF recently could verify it's OLED?

At least the Blades sold in Hungary and Sweden only have TFT screens. And even Orange shop's website does not mention OLED anymore:

http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/San-Francisco-from-Orange-in-grey

(As far as I remember, they explicitly mentioned OLED a few weeks ago. But I might be wrong.)

Kind regards

Wolfgang

EDIT: The Blades in Greece and Germany have a LCD screen, too.

Edited November 25, 2010 by IPB_Refugee

[Guest Rem1x]

Looks like I was right, the SF was being sold at loss, with a hope of making money back on the bundled apps/app store. The only way that Orange can keep doing the phone is by selling the worse version that other countries are selling, as too many people are defecting to other networks, or removing the bundled stuff.

[Guest _Mazza_]

Got 2 delivered from Orange on Monday, definitely OLED or AMOLED (can't tell the difference) but a hell of a lot better than my Hero screen B)

[Guest Rikrok]

I have a a confusing question....

I am quite new to these new Andriod phones since I am an old school HTC Trinity user ;)

I have been reading different specification information regarding ZTE Blade...

What is the difference between the following two statements:

1. Orange San Francisco, from the UK, seems to be an OLED capacitive screen version.

2. ZTE blade in Scandinavia are launching this phone with a TFT capacitive screen.

Can somebody explain it to me what is the difference between these two types of screens i.e., OLED & TFT, and which one gives the better end-user experience TFT or OLED? Or are they the same thing?

[Guest rayraven]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=oled+vs+tft

[Guest GraviticVortex]

OLED pixels themselves emit light so unlike TFT no backlighting is needed.

OLED has better blacks and contrast and at least in theory should consume less power.

TFT can in theory be sharper than OLED if OLED uses pentile matrix with physical resolution smaller than inerpolated one.

In practise most people dont see the difference in sharpness.

[Guest daniel_owen_uk]

TFT is backlit, so you have a light that shines through crystals, the crystals change the colour of the light to give you red, green and blue. If they are all blocked (no red, green or blue) then you get black. However the backlight is still on and you will never get 100% black.

OLED (all mobiles will be AMOLED as a passive matrix would use too much power), is where individual LEDs (Red Green & Blue) are lit, there is no backlight and to create black they simply all switch off giving a 100% true black.

OLED contrast ratio is hugely superior to any LCD.

Obviously OLED only uses power when creating a non black so as a result it uses less power.

OLED is the better tech (until we get QDLED) ;)

[Guest Rikrok]

Wonderful ;)

thanks for so much useful information :P

Now i feel quite frustrated because i am going back home to the UK over the Christmas time but some money orientated people are buying these Orange San Francisco phones in bulks from the online shop and thus the Orange Online Shop seemed to have run out of the stock ;) but I really hope i shall be able to get hold of one before Christmas :P

Since so many of you on this forum seem to be full of useful information... so I have one more question but i am not sure if its the right thread to ask:

Are there any issues with the default internal memory being only 150Mb? I heard that ZTE blade in some countries will be providing the internal memory of 512Mb. My question is that could there be any performance degradation of having a very smaller internal memory or it would not matter as long as I could add a bigger micro SD card for external memory? Does the internal memory imply to RAM only? So what could be the performance difference if there are two ZTE Blade phones side-by-side both having 16Gb external memory but one having 150Mb internal memory & the other having 512Mb internal memory...?

[Guest gambieter]

Are there any issues with the default internal memory being only 150Mb? I heard that ZTE blade in some countries will be providing the internal memory of 512Mb. My question is that could there be any performance degradation of having a very smaller internal memory or it would not matter as long as I could add a bigger micro SD card for external memory? Does the internal memory imply to RAM only? So what could be the performance difference if there are two ZTE Blade phones side-by-side both having 16Gb external memory but one having 150Mb internal memory & the other having 512Mb internal memory...?

Nope, they are the same. The total RAM is 512 MB, but 150 MB usable for applications after loading of the drivers, operating system etc. You seem to misunderstand RAM and storage as well, the SD card can be used as memory extension but only with custom ROMs, and a repartitioned SD card. Loads of information available, but you will have to read that yourself.

[Guest fonix232]

The screen type is OLED. But there is no such thing as OLED, it is in two types: Active OLED (AMOLED) and Passive OLED (PMOLED). The last is mostly used in a few years old flat TV's, every phone what mentions OLED as screen type has the same LED point backlight. But of course it can be TFT-OLED (where the TFT color panel is used with the OLED backlight), but in this case, there are two types of screens in the Blade:

- AMOLED (only at UK Orange AFAIK)

- TFT-LCD (everywhere else. This version has only 256MB RAM, and because of the kernel, the screen gets over-voltage, so some of the colors (a little percent) gets a bit weird color (greys turn into a dark steel blue, etc))

[Guest Rikrok]

Nope, they are the same. The total RAM is 512 MB, but 150 MB usable for applications after loading of the drivers, operating system etc. You seem to misunderstand RAM and storage as well, the SD card can be used as memory extension but only with custom ROMs, and a repartitioned SD card. Loads of information available, but you will have to read that yourself.

Would you be kind enough to point me to the right web link where i could get all this info about repartitioning SD card and so forth.. because i am totally zero about Android and only during Christmas I shall have a limited amount of time to do some super fast learning due to lack of free time ;)