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does anyone know when the sf is getting updated to 2.2 to buy in the shops

thanks in advance

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does anyone know when the sf is getting updated to 2.2 to buy in the shops

thanks in advance

It is unlikely that Orange will release 2.2 Froyo for this phone.

Guest oh!dougal
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does anyone know when the sf is getting updated to 2.2 to buy in the shops

thanks in advance

Supposedly never in Europe. (My rationalisation to explain that decision would be the need for a second round of approvals testing.)

"Mid December" in Japan and China.

Where are your shops?

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Supposedly never in Europe. (My rationalisation to explain that decision would be the need for a second round of approvals testing.)

"Mid December" in Japan and China.

Where are your shops?

in europe

bummer, im gonna have to buy a 2.1 and install a 2.2 roms

ill just wait until a very stable 2.2 comes out

Guest nikatapi
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Its been officially confirmed that the Greek Blade (lcd, 256ram) will get a 2.2 update in January-February, so maybe we can get some sort of port

Guest meinnit
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Why does everyone think that Orange won't release 2.2? If it comes out soon I would think that they would invest in development because it would be a major selling point

Guest StevenHarperUK
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Why does everyone think that Orange won't release 2.2? If it comes out soon I would think that they would invest in development because it would be a major selling point

All indications that I have - is that we will be doing 2.2

I believe the main concern is getting the upgrade path nice and simple for users.

Guest El Nino9
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It is unlikely that Orange will release 2.2 Froyo for this phone.

where the eff you get you facts from? purely misleading..back it up with source if you going to shoot it down :P

i've read on threads on this site that orange are working on updating their 2.1 rom. after that a 2.2 rom should be released but who nos all in all they might jump to gingerbread without the need for froyo. look at htc how they did it with the hero, jumped 1.6 and when to 2.1 after a long time but they still did it. now people dont go saying this device can't handle it cos it bloody well can..

now this is purely MY hunch that if the white blade has a tft screen as people are concerned about then that might explain why orange want to release a new 2.1, maybe a rom thats compatiable with both hardware like the htc desire (1 with amoled and 1 with slcd)

only thing is orange are a bit rubbish with updates because they heavily brand their devices and have to test etc etc...

the device is now in across europe so if 1 of the operators get it i am sure it will be ported to the uk device worse case scenario..

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Guest StevenHarperUK
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where the eff you get you facts from? purely misleading..back it up with source if you going to shoot it down :P

I work for Orange - I work on the Apps for Android and iPhones - I work with the team that check, verify the ROM builds from ZTE

Guest oh!dougal
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All indications that I have - is that we will be doing 2.2

I believe the main concern is getting the upgrade path nice and simple for users.

Well that would be brilliant, but ISTR there was something from ZTE (about releasing the FroYo source) which indicated that 2.2 was "not for Europe".

But of course its ENTIRELY likely that left and right hands are not communicating there!

Guest El Nino9
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Well that would be brilliant, but ISTR there was something from ZTE (about releasing the FroYo source) which indicated that 2.2 was "not for Europe".

But of course its ENTIRELY likely that left and right hands are not communicating there!

i believe its not for Europe as there is no Google apps support in china. once the source is released a few things such as screen has to be changed. the main thing is they need to release a working version of a stable kernel source.. specially the froyo kernel

Guest StevenHarperUK
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I agree the build that is leaked from the Chinese phones are not for Europe.

However the Kernel in that dump probably will be - adding Google APKs to the ROM and a few Orange bits is not all that hard.

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where the eff you get you facts from? purely misleading..back it up with source if you going to shoot it down :P

Well ZTE's smartphone dept themselves did say there were no plans for 2.2 in Europe, however that might have changed now. As for testing for Europe being the reason not to release, I think that's unlikely since most of the certification (CE for example) is self certification with little or no power to prosecute if a company didn't do it correctly.

Guest UbaRolfey
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This is based on nothing, and is just a passing comment, I went into an Orange shop the other day and happened to ask, the bloke behind the counter said that they will prolly be pushing it out over the air.

Mike

Guest StevenHarperUK
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This is based on nothing, and is just a passing comment, I went into an Orange shop the other day and happened to ask, the bloke behind the counter said that they will prolly be pushing it out over the air.

Mike

ZTE don't have the capabilities like HTC to do that - It requires reasonably high capacity servers and other such things - The ones I have seen for 2.1 were executables. I expect the same for any updates - if they ever get released.

Guest Arr Too
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I work for Orange - I work on the Apps for Android and iPhones - I work with the team that check, verify the ROM builds from ZTE

OT, but do you have any info on what app/settings Orange might have sent one forum member that supposedly stopped their wifi from breaking? See here.

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where the eff you get you facts from? purely misleading..back it up with source if you going to shoot it down :P

i've read on threads on this site that orange are working on updating their 2.1 rom. after that a 2.2 rom should be released but who nos all in all they might jump to gingerbread without the need for froyo. look at htc how they did it with the hero, jumped 1.6 and when to 2.1 after a long time but they still did it. now people dont go saying this device can't handle it cos it bloody well can..

now this is purely MY hunch that if the white blade has a tft screen as people are concerned about then that might explain why orange want to release a new 2.1, maybe a rom thats compatiable with both hardware like the htc desire (1 with amoled and 1 with slcd)

only thing is orange are a bit rubbish with updates because they heavily brand their devices and have to test etc etc...

the device is now in across europe so if 1 of the operators get it i am sure it will be ported to the uk device worse case scenario..

Android 2.2 a.k.a froyo won't be released by orange according to their tweet: "We have no plans to launch 2.2 on the San Francisco I'm afraid"

Can't locate that tweet now.

Guest oh!dougal
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I went into an Orange shop the other day and happened to ask, the bloke behind the counter said that they will prolly be pushing it out over the air.

.... This is based on nothing, and is just a passing comment.

Fixed that for you!

Regarding Orange's future plans, I'm afraid that nobody in a shop should be regarded as a reliable source.

Or even as having any tech knowledge.

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Android 2.2 a.k.a froyo won't be released by orange according to their tweet: "We have no plans to launch 2.2 on the San Francisco I'm afraid"

Can't locate that tweet now.

They almost definitely might also have said "Free Orange San Francisco phones to all good children this Christmas (check your chimneys)" but can't locate the tweet now.

Posted
I work for Orange - I work on the Apps for Android and iPhones - I work with the team that check, verify the ROM builds from ZTE

No offence to you personally but Orange don't know their arse from their elbow. There is so much misinformation from them that anything is possible (or not in Orange's case).

Guest StevenHarperUK
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No offence to you personally but Orange don't know their arse from their elbow. There is so much misinformation from them that anything is possible (or not in Orange's case).

I cannot comment :P

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I would think that they would invest in development because it would be a major selling point

They already have a major selling point price. I'm not convinced at this moment in time they need to spend money on R&D to sell more phones that they presumably make very little on (or a loss).

Guest StevenHarperUK
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They already have a major selling point price. I'm not convinced at this moment in time they need to spend money on R&D to sell more phones that they presumably make very little on (or a loss).

As ZTE are the real winner here - Orange are selling lots of their devices - I am sure they have an interest in keeping their OS up to date....

Guest meinnit
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No offence to you personally but Orange don't know their arse from their elbow. There is so much misinformation from them that anything is possible (or not in Orange's case).

+1

I'm guessing the "no plans" comment probably resulted from lack of communication (well thats what I'm hoping)

Guest El Nino9
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As ZTE are the real winner here - Orange are selling lots of their devices - I am sure they have an interest in keeping their OS up to date....

agree..

also a surely a simple exe file that puts the phone into fastboot and then flashes the required files would be ideal? i mean the best part about zte would be as they are operator specific that they don't put files(unless for china) on their site but on the operators site/sever. all the roms are branded so far.

and about the tweet, just because orange said no 2.2 doesn't mean no 2.3 :P think back to the pulse :D 1.5 to 2.1

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