Does anyone get HSUPA with Blade on any ROM, 2.1/2.2?

[Guest JK-FINN]

Hello!

Do you have HSUPA networks in the UK and other countries?

We have it here in Finland, but the stock Finnish Saunalahti Blade ROM does not support HSUPA. Does anyone have better luck getting HSUPA? If so.... which combination, ROM/operator?

[Guest hecatae]

Hello!

Do you have HSUPA networks in the UK and other countries?

We have it here in Finland, but the stock Finnish Saunalahti Blade ROM does not support HSUPA. Does anyone have better luck getting HSUPA? If so.... which combination, ROM/operator?

I get a 3G+ HSDPA icon with a 2.1 rom, speedtest shows my upload and download comes in at 512k

[Guest rbbrslmn]

using orange I never once got a 3g+ connection, despite their coverage map insisting its available where I am (liverpool) since switching to giffgaff which uses 02 networks (so I assume its the same on o2) I've only ever had 3g+, this is using modaco 2.1 r4

[Guest Mit321]

I also get 3G+ HSDPA icon with a 2.1 Modaco Custom Rom with TMobile and it seems quite nippy. Got it once with Orange (who are quite frankly crap everywhere I've been). Only problem I sometimes have on both Orange and Tmobile is that the internet doesn't respond at all unless I reset the connection e.g. by putting it into Aeroplane mode and back again. Maybe a problem with having not cleared the cache/data before installing over the Orange 2.1 Rom?

[Guest gmc007]

i get 3G+ on giffgaff just did a speed test and getting 2.96 Mbps download and 0.40 Mbps upload (stock rom)

Edited December 13, 2010 by gmc007

[Guest JK-FINN]

HSDPA is not a problem..... We get something like 2-5 megs download here all the time. (Unlimited connection speed with unlimited megabytes)

Upload bandwidth and ping are the problems: HSUPA would be a great help for those. Not all 3G networks support HSUPA, many support HSDPA only (with max. upload 0,384 mbit/s, speedtest rounds it up to 0,4 mbit/s)

http://www.siptune.net/tiki-index.php?page...mobiiliverkossa

Two operators with HSUPA&HSDPA services, ping times minimum 63ms and 72ms, one operator with HSDPA only, ping minimum 148ms.

HSUPA upload bandwidth here 1,4 mbit/s, in some countries 5,76 mbit/s.

So, HSUPA, anyone, with Blade?

[Guest rbbrslmn]

HSDPA is not a problem..... We get something like 2-5 megs download here all the time. (Unlimited connection speed with unlimited megabytes)

Upload bandwidth and ping are the problems: HSUPA would be a great help for those. Not all 3G networks support HSUPA, many support HSDPA only (with max. upload 0,384 mbit/s, speedtest rounds it up to 0,4 mbit/s)

http://www.siptune.net/tiki-index.php?page...mobiiliverkossa

Two operators with HSUPA&HSDPA services, ping times minimum 63ms and 72ms, one operator with HSDPA only, ping minimum 148ms.

HSUPA upload bandwidth here 1,4 mbit/s, in some countries 5,76 mbit/s.

So, HSUPA, anyone, with Blade?

ah. I misread the question, apologies, it seems that only vodafone in the UK runs that.

[Guest Jet-Ace]

Up.

Anyone able to tell if ZTE Blade hardware supports HSUPA and not only HSDPA?

[Guest Simon O]

Apparently the ZTE Blade hardware supports HSUPA. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=...amp;c=zte_blade

Edited January 1, 2011 by flibblesan

[Guest Lew247]

Apparently the ZTE Blade hardware supports HSUPA. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=...amp;c=zte_blade

from that website

Cellular:Data+Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA

Seems to support both

[Guest Simon O]

from that website

Seems to support both

Yep. It seems that this isn't disabled in ROMs.. it's down to the baseband firmware.. so the Finnish phone baseband has this disabled.. what about other phones? My network doesn't support HSUPA so I can't test.

Edited January 1, 2011 by flibblesan

[Guest JK-FINN]

Apparently the ZTE Blade hardware supports HSUPA. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=...amp;c=zte_blade

That web page is the reason I created this thread..

But that page says Blade is based on MSM7227. Other information say Blade is based on MSM7227-1. Who really knows?

http://wwwen.zte.com.cn/en/press_center/ne...108_194339.html

So it could be that hardware supports HSUPA, but software doesn't. Or the hardware doesn't support HSUPA.

This issue was discussed in Finland, when an operator (Saunalahti) advertised Blade as having HSUPA. They removed that claim later from the Blade specifications web page.

Yep. It seems that this isn't disabled in ROMs.. it's down to the baseband firmware.. so the Finnish phone baseband has this disabled.. what about other phones? My network doesn't support HSUPA so I can't test.

2 out of 3 network operators in Finland have upgraded their 3G network from HSDPA to HSUPA. We have HSUPA with let's say new (or couple years old) Nokia phones and usb modems (usb sticks) from Huawei, ZTE and so on...

Edited January 1, 2011 by JK-FINN

[Guest uberduck]

using orange I never once got a 3g+ connection, despite their coverage map insisting its available where I am (liverpool) since switching to giffgaff which uses 02 networks (so I assume its the same on o2) I've only ever had 3g+, this is using modaco 2.1 r4

i have the same result with orange and 3UK

i believe the problem lies with orange itself

[Guest Krinyo]

No, it's the problem with the Blade. I have a Pulse and a Blade. At the same time, same place and on the same network (T-Mobile, Hungary) my Pulse gets more than 1 Mbit/s (!) upload, while the Blade only gets 3G maximum 0,4 Mbit/s to the same server.

Apparently this is a ROM problem. With the "256 MB" Blade ROM I had only simple 3G sign on my Blade toolbar, but after my Blade changed to 512 MB ROM version (newer version) I have my little "+" sign along with 3G. But it's indicate only HSDPA download.

HSUPA not supported yet as I see. It's a real chinese phone. :unsure:

Edited January 1, 2011 by Krinyo

[Guest Matty-p]

HSDPA is not a problem..... We get something like 2-5 megs download here all the time. (Unlimited connection speed with unlimited megabytes)

Upload bandwidth and ping are the problems: HSUPA would be a great help for those. Not all 3G networks support HSUPA, many support HSDPA only (with max. upload 0,384 mbit/s, speedtest rounds it up to 0,4 mbit/s)

http://www.siptune.net/tiki-index.php?page...mobiiliverkossa

Two operators with HSUPA&HSDPA services, ping times minimum 63ms and 72ms, one operator with HSDPA only, ping minimum 148ms.

HSUPA upload bandwidth here 1,4 mbit/s, in some countries 5,76 mbit/s.

So, HSUPA, anyone, with Blade?

really?

[Guest Matty-p]

No, it's the problem with the Blade. I have a Pulse and a Blade. At the same time, same place and on the same network (T-Mobile, Hungary) my Pulse gets more than 1 Mbit/s (!) upload, while the Blade only gets 3G maximum 0,4 Mbit/s to the same server.

Apparently this is a ROM problem. With the "256 MB" Blade ROM I had only simple 3G sign on my Blade toolbar, but after my Blade changed to 512 MB ROM version (newer version) I have my little "+" sign along with 3G. But it's indicate only HSDPA download.

HSUPA not supported yet as I see. It's a real chinese phone. :unsure:

whats the problem with 'only .4meg upload thats twice as fast as my fixed broadband conection with respect why do you need more especilly from your MOBILE? just interested i can understand dl speeds but i dont really gegt why people are so hung up about uplad speeds from thier phone i understand from home or from a datacentre but i see my phone as a media consumtion device and my home as both consumpion and creation

[Guest Jet-Ace]

whats the problem with 'only .4meg upload thats twice as fast as my fixed broadband conection with respect why do you need more especilly from your MOBILE?

It is nothing else but we don't get what we are paying for. HSUPA was promised when we bought our ZTE Blades in Finland and after a while the operator said: "Sorry, ZTE Blade is only HSPDA, you are free to bring back your phones if you wish".

This is not a discussion if we need HSUPA or not, this is about what could be done to get it.

[Guest PeaNut_HU]

Also considering you can use the phone as a modem to get internet connection on a laptop or normal PC where ADSL, Cable or other type of internet is not available, why would you not want to use the phone's and network's full potential?

HSUPA is very good to have for example when sending emails with large attachments...

[Guest Krinyo]

Yes, and with HSUPA you get much lower pings too. Its feels like real broadband, not just when You downloading something. And as someone wrote this earlier: I payed for it, bought the phone with hsupa support. I really need it. My old Pulse do it, this new phone not? No way.

Im using my phone like a mobile gateway (with Barnacle) many times, and with HSUPA I have more upload than with my 15 MB ADSL line.

The real question: can we enable it, or not?

Edited January 2, 2011 by Krinyo

[Guest Jet-Ace]

As this is too technical issue for me I ask if someone is able to do something to enable HSUPA? I still think that hardware is not problem unless proven otherwise.

[Guest Junior Bear]

a friend from work of mine purchased this phone after being impressed with mine.

saw him at work today and he gets the 'H' icon on his phone indicating hsdpa signal is being used.

since the day i bought my san francisco, i have never seen this icon, the highest its ever been is 3g.

why is this?

[Guest Rotmann]

Some ROMS display HSDPA as 3G or 3G+.

[Guest IronDoc]

Guys, HSDPA =/= HSUPA

They are different.

He has clearly stated this.

[Guest dnaumov]

Android does not have any visual indicator of whether you have HSUPA enabled in your software/hardware. The only way to determine this is do do upload speed and latency tests (with something like the speedtest.net app). If your latency is under 100ms and/or your upload speed is higher than 384kbit, you do have HSUPA, because ithese are impossible to archieve without it. I have a finnish ZTE Blade and I have tried both the stock 2.1 ROM as well as 2.2 Jellyfish RLS9 and tests on both indicate that HSUPA support is NOT present.

Edited February 2, 2011 by dnaumov

[Guest Aquilo]

Android does not have any visual indicator of whether you have HSUPA enabled in your software/hardware. The only way to determine this is do do upload speed and latency tests (with something like the speedtest.net app). If your latency is under 100ms and/or your upload speed is higher than 384kbit, you do have HSUPA, because ithese are impossible to archieve without it. I have a finnish ZTE Blade and I have tried both the stock 2.1 ROM as well as 2.2 Jellyfish RLS9 and tests on both indicate that HSUPA support is NOT present.

Really? Because the RIL should print HSD/HSU to the logcat, afaik.

Seems like a fairly simple way to verify it, and more reliable than speed tests.