LOST.DIR

[Guest jellywobbles]

Hi Guys 'n' Gals:

I have got a weirdo!

I have swapped my 4Gb stock card that came with the Vega to a 16Gb Class 4 card I bought from Play.com

I copied the contents of the 4Gb card to a directory on my PC's hard disk (am running Win 7 Ultimate x86) - then copied this all over to the new 16Gb card. Whilst I had the new 16Gb card in the USB reader - I copied over some MP3's (2 albums); 3 AVI videos & 3 eBooks in ePub format.

Put the card back into Vega - mounted it & then went to see if the files were playable!

All MP3 files were there - 2 albums - directory structure preserved - all playable fine!

Went to look under VegaMedia on SD card & couldnt find any of the 3 x 600Mb AVI files or the 3 ePub ebooks!

I did all file transfers directly to the microSD card using my PC.

When I mounted the card back into the Vega & explored using Astro - there were no videos & no eBooks!

In the directory called LOST.DIR there was a load of files - at least 3 files of 700Mb size - none of which were accessible / playable.

I am stumped! I just dont get it. The MP3 files transferred over OK - but not the ePub or AVI files.

I checked on the content of the microSD card (whilst it was still in the USB card reader) before I ejected it from my PC - all files were there!

What am I doing wrong?

Can anyone shed any light on this? Should I use some special software to transfer files from PC to Vega?

Thanks

JW

[Guest MaxiP]

I've just had the exact problem with a 32Gb generic SD card and my phone - things would copy on OK but would vanish leaving empty folders or nothing at all. However, a friend tried the card in his Wildfire and could see / play the media files !

Very strange - I'm assuming that this is an incompatibility between phone / Vega & MicroSD

[Guest warriorscot]

Did you make sure the sd card was properly formatted before you installed it. Use a proper SD formatting tool or the one on the vega or a phone to format it in fat32 before doing anything. Haven't had any problems like that so far with mine however I am sending back my sandisc 16gb microsd because it wont hold a format for more than a week before becoming corrupted so I have had my own problems.

I actually have a replacement one the same as your from play.com in the post so hopefully that works for me.

[Guest jellywobbles]

I am at a loss, and am thinking that maybe I need to take this back to Currys for a refund!

I have formatted my microSD card both in the Vega & in the PC - its makes no difference. (My HTC Desire can read card whatever way its formatted, incl all the content)

So I copy the content of my original 4Gb card to new 16Gb card. Verify files are visible & in tact!

Now copy over some MP3 files, AVI & ePub into the respective directories. (I do this in both ways - card is in reader attached to PC or card in Vega with Vega attached to PC - makes no difference!)

Vega doesnt recognise any ePub files (that I can read on HTC Desire); gives the following error when try to play an AVI "Sorry this video cannot be played" & when I try to play an MP3 file "Sorry the player doesnt support this type of audiofile"!

All audio & AVI files are playable on my PC, laptop & Western Digital Media Player hooked up to my TV! The MP3's all play on my iPod.

I have been mucking about on this for almost 3 hours to no avail!

Has anyone else here had these problems?

Oh boy .. am I cheesed off? :)

Thanks for reading this.

JellyW

[Guest andybarker]

I realise you said you tried the card in another device OK, but I have had a similar issue with cards that turned out to be fakes. They format fine, but when you put files on them, above a certain size / disk usage they corrupt.

This info may be relevant to other people that search for this problem, rather than you in particular.

[Guest jellywobbles]

I've just had the exact problem with a 32Gb generic SD card and my phone - things would copy on OK but would vanish leaving empty folders or nothing at all. However, a friend tried the card in his Wildfire and could see / play the media files !

Very strange - I'm assuming that this is an incompatibility between phone / Vega & MicroSD

Did you manage to sort this out, as its driving me nuts! :)

[Guest warriorscot]

This might sound daft but have you tried all the files on the smaller 4gb stick as well or is it just the 16gb I know you can't get them all on but one at a time there should be enough room. Also how did you transfer them: manual copy paste or transfer companion? Have any videos or music played on the vega or just not from the 16gb card? Can you stream to the vega and have it play using gmote or something similar? Have you updated the vega to the latest firmware 1.06.5 and have you got the r5 custom rom installed?

If after a clean install and using the smaller sd card that came with the vega you might actually have something wrong with your vega. If it works with the 4gb card but not the 16gb then its your microsd that is faulty you need to return it. MicroSD cards have a pretty high rate of defectives and are overly fussy in many respects. And when you formatted it did you use a proper formatting tool like "SD formatter" or I use the disk utility in ubuntu because its reliable and when it formats something it actually does it rather than just saying it does.

Everything you need for playing videos should be on the internal memory of the devices so a blank SD card should work in the Vega with nothing but a few mp3s and an avi file. Also make sure we are talking about actual .mp3 files and .avi files not generalism a lot of people say mp3 but actually have mp4 or acc etc. and .avi is a container format make sure its got divx/xvid video and mp3 audio inside. Also try moving the files over through the vega over wireless if you can rather than USB just to see if it can actually write to the SD card while its mounted.

[Guest arad85]

Did you manage to sort this out, as its driving me nuts! :)

Got any long filenames? Or any funny characters/spaces etc...

[Guest jellywobbles]

This might sound daft but have you tried all the files on the smaller 4gb stick as well or is it just the 16gb I know you can't get them all on but one at a time there should be enough room. Also how did you transfer them: manual copy paste or transfer companion? Have any videos or music played on the vega or just not from the 16gb card? Can you stream to the vega and have it play using gmote or something similar? Have you updated the vega to the latest firmware 1.06.5 and have you got the r5 custom rom installed?

If after a clean install and using the smaller sd card that came with the vega you might actually have something wrong with your vega. If it works with the 4gb card but not the 16gb then its your microsd that is faulty you need to return it. MicroSD cards have a pretty high rate of defectives and are overly fussy in many respects. And when you formatted it did you use a proper formatting tool like "SD formatter" or I use the disk utility in ubuntu because its reliable and when it formats something it actually does it rather than just saying it does.

Everything you need for playing videos should be on the internal memory of the devices so a blank SD card should work in the Vega with nothing but a few mp3s and an avi file. Also make sure we are talking about actual .mp3 files and .avi files not generalism a lot of people say mp3 but actually have mp4 or acc etc. and .avi is a container format make sure its got divx/xvid video and mp3 audio inside. Also try moving the files over through the vega over wireless if you can rather than USB just to see if it can actually write to the SD card while its mounted.

Thanks for your very detailed reply - its much appreciated!

I'll check through everything that you have suggested.

Just a couple of quick questions:-

(i) Do you know of a "test" video file that I can use to see if the problem is with my Vega?

(ii) You say " ...avi is a container format make sure its got divx/xvid video and mp3 audio inside" - how do I find this out?

Thanks once again

JellyW

P.S. I just used MedaiPlayer Classic to look at one of the AVO files that wont play & it's properties are:-

Video: Xvid 640x272 25.00fps 846Kbps [Video 0]

Audio: MPEG Audio Layer 3 48000Hz stereo 160Kbps [Audio 1]

Edited December 18, 2010 by jellywobbles

[Guest warriorscot]

There is software for telling you the exact properties of a video file but I actually can't remember the name but there are a couple of good tools you can google them. However most players on your PC will tell you if you go to File>Properties or something along those lines and in the details page it will show a box with the basic video and audio codec used.

So far every downloaded or recorded TV episode I have worked fine I usually get videos from Usenet as it takes less time to download and watch them than record them on the sky+ or PC. But they all use a standard format you probably have at least one kicking around as long as it has the same as below it should play.

Video: Xvid 624x352 23.98fps [Stream 00]

Audio: MPEG Audio Layer 3 48000Hz stereo 128kbps [Stream 01]

Edited December 18, 2010 by warriorscot

[Guest jellywobbles]

This might sound daft but have you tried all the files on the smaller 4gb stick as well or is it just the 16gb I know you can't get them all on but one at a time there should be enough room. Also how did you transfer them: manual copy paste or transfer companion? Have any videos or music played on the vega or just not from the 16gb card? Can you stream to the vega and have it play using gmote or something similar? Have you updated the vega to the latest firmware 1.06.5 and have you got the r5 custom rom installed?

If after a clean install and using the smaller sd card that came with the vega you might actually have something wrong with your vega. If it works with the 4gb card but not the 16gb then its your microsd that is faulty you need to return it. MicroSD cards have a pretty high rate of defectives and are overly fussy in many respects. And when you formatted it did you use a proper formatting tool like "SD formatter" or I use the disk utility in ubuntu because its reliable and when it formats something it actually does it rather than just saying it does.

Everything you need for playing videos should be on the internal memory of the devices so a blank SD card should work in the Vega with nothing but a few mp3s and an avi file. Also make sure we are talking about actual .mp3 files and .avi files not generalism a lot of people say mp3 but actually have mp4 or acc etc. and .avi is a container format make sure its got divx/xvid video and mp3 audio inside. Also try moving the files over through the vega over wireless if you can rather than USB just to see if it can actually write to the SD card while its mounted.

I gave up & left the Vega alone for a few days as its driving me nuts!

I have tried every possible way to format the card that you have suggested. I reckon the issue is the Vega! It seems to corrupt all of the files / folders when it remounts the card!

You mention above about "moving the files over through the vega over wireless if you can rather than USB just to see if it can actually write to the SD card while its mounted."

That sounds like a good idea - how do I do that? If I can write to the card whilst its still mounted I may get somewhere.

If my Sandisk 16Gb card is faulty - can anyone recommend a decent make that the Vega can read / write to!

I am at a total loss! Its so frustrating not to be able to transfer files over to the microSD card!

Thanks for your help :)

[Guest warriorscot]

A file manager that supports wireless would be easiest I use Astro file manager with the smb module that let's it access windows networks.

Does it work with the original 4gb card? If so you are probably correct about the bigger ones being duffed. Microsd cards have pretty high failure rates that only get worse with size. I would just send it back and get another most are made by sandisk anyway even if tyey are rebranded so most are the same.

[Guest rvdgeer]

I gave up & left the Vega alone for a few days as its driving me nuts!

I have tried every possible way to format the card that you have suggested. I reckon the issue is the Vega! It seems to corrupt all of the files / folders when it remounts the card!

You mention above about "moving the files over through the vega over wireless if you can rather than USB just to see if it can actually write to the SD card while its mounted."

That sounds like a good idea - how do I do that? If I can write to the card whilst its still mounted I may get somewhere.

If my Sandisk 16Gb card is faulty - can anyone recommend a decent make that the Vega can read / write to!

I am at a total loss! Its so frustrating not to be able to transfer files over to the microSD card!

Thanks for your help :)

Maybe you can try an app called websharing...

Sorry i can't give you more details about it at the moment, but I'm sure you'll find enough info on it when you google it...

A link to get you started: Websharing on Cyrket

[Guest surly cat]

On a related note, what do LOST.DIR and its files actually do? What's their function?

[Guest wobblydoggy]

I realise you said you tried the card in another device OK, but I have had a similar issue with cards that turned out to be fakes. They format fine, but when you put files on them, above a certain size / disk usage they corrupt.

This info may be relevant to other people that search for this problem, rather than you in particular.

I had this exact problem with a 16gb kingston off ebay, i got the last laugh as I got a full refund from paypal and didnt even have to send the card back :)

free plastic woohoo!